Slow broadband in Bangor, North Wales: is there an...

I apologise in advance for the length of this post, but wonder whether anybody could advise me.
I live in Bangor, a small University town (though technically a city) in north Wales. In the Autumn of last year I took out a broadband contract with BT.
The Broadband was slow from the very outset. Although during the daytime the performance was adequate, during evenings and weekends it was slower than dial up connections I have used in the past, making it completely unusable.
I tried all the steps suggested on various websites, e.g. connecting the Home Hub to the test socket. I also waited for two weeks to see whether the connection speed would improve.
Having seen no improvement I called BT’s helpline. It was a tedious process. I was put on hold for lengthy periods of time and at one point having got through to an operator I was suddenly cut off.
When I did eventually speak to an operator after going through a number of steps he advised me to use BT’s speed tester. According to the results, the connection speed was somewhere in the region of 200kbps, which according to the operator indicated a fault with the line. As a result, he arranged for an Open Reach Engineer to visit, although I had to wait for three weeks, during which time there was no improvement in the service.
The BT engineer, after having tested the line and found no faults, described the cause as being a major fault at Bangor’s telephone exchange. He had been on numerous callouts regarding the same issue, and stated that several hundred houses in the locality were affected.
He cited the reason as being the strain put on the exchange by the town’s student population, with the effect that connection speeds were being limited to 250kbps at peak times.
Nonetheless, he said that engineers were working on resolving the issue, and that due to my proximity to the exchange (a few hundred yards) my speed should be approaching 7mbps.
Following the end of the University term in December 2010 the speed improved significantly (to around 3.6 mbps at one point), which suggests that the engineer’s diagnosis was correct. However, now that the students have returned from the Christmas vacation the speed has dropped once again to an unusable level (as low as 100kbps in the evenings). This clearly suggests that the problem has not been addressed.
In the light of this, I wonder whether anybody could help answer any of these questions:
Is there any way I can get any information from BT about the issue without having to go through a foreign call centre?
Are BT likely to resolve the exchange fault in the near future?
Are there any steps that I can take in the interim to improve my connection speed?
Does the fact that I am not receiving the service for which I am paying provide me with grounds to terminate my contract?
Thanks for your help.

We're currently experiencing the same issue on a business line.
We work just outside West Haddon, a small village on the outskirts of Northampton, and have 3 ADSL lines. We are only half a mile from the exchange
The first line was installed when we moved in and works perfectly. No issues or complaints and download speeds in excess of 7mbs. However, this is a dedicated line form one of our clients to access servers which we host so we can't hop on and use it for our own needs.
The 2nd was a replacement to a previous line which was very slow during peak times. This was extremely slow and on the verge of unusable. We thought this could be an issue with the isp as they use Tiscali/TalkTalk who are notoriously slower than most.
The third is an additional line which went live yesterday and was meant as a replacement for our 2nd line. However, while the ping times and upload speeds are much faster then our 2nd lines, the download speeds are still only 2mb.
My colleague has just been on to our new ISP who has told us this could be an issue with the virtual path. We're currently running BT speedtests so we can pass the information back to our ISP so they can query it with BT.
My questions are these.
1. Can the virtual path be changed in any way? This isn't a residential line that can "cope", but a business line where the speed of the line is crucial to the running of the company's business. Having said that if this were a residential line, then it still wouldn't be fit for purpose as we can barely run any internet based applications at all!
2. If BT refuse to change our virtual path, then what are our options regarding reporting them to OFCOM for failing to provide a reasonable service? The excuse that we are too far from the exchange isn't valid as we do have a working line.
I am convinced that the seperation of BT wholesale from the rest of the BT (openreach) group has offered no additional benefits to end users at all, and simply provides a way for different parts of the BT organisation to pass the blame for faults and never actually get to, and fix, the root cause of most peoples internet issues.
When we were investigating the issues with our 2nd line, we had 2 engineers visit us. The first told us he wasn't a broadband engineer and could only do a line test (which he told us had no fault) and that he would rebook a broadband engineer to visit us.  When the broadband engineer turned up, all he could do was the same line test as the first enginner! 2 engineers, different job titles, exactly the same job. Neither could find a problem, both said it was more than likely and exchange issue and both told us THEY were unable to speak to BT wholesale about it and would have to escalate it. Neither did according to our ISP.
It seems that broadband providers are able to make and break promises regarding speed and service at will.
These are my current views on ISP's and BT in particular, and would love to be corrected or enlightened as to why there's no simple fix for the issues raised, so while I've had a bit of a rant, please do correct me if I'm wrong.

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  • From the old forum.... Slow broadband speeds in th...

    FROM THE OLD FORUM Original post by John Jorgensen...
    Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
    Posted: Jan 22, 2010 9:17 AM           
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    Hi,
    I have had bt broadband opt3 for almost 3 months now and have always had a healthy 9mb+ connection, however have noticed it being very slow in the evening when I come home from work, I checked the speed last nite as iplayer was constantly freezing and was getting 1mb . A bit upset by this as I got bt broadband to play my ps3 online and to get faster speeds on my laptop, and I use these services mostly at nite.
    I checked my speed this morning and was getting 11mb, is this normal or am I being capped I cant believe Id be going over my download limit. Can someone from bt get back to me on this?
    Thanks
    John
    alison griffiths     
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        Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
    Posted: Jan 22, 2010 11:22 AM   in response to: John Jorgensen in response to: John Jorgensen           
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    Welcome to the world of BT , the tv advert when he says " business slow" when trying to load a webpage is not other companies thats BT.
    John Jorgensen     
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        Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
    Posted: Jan 22, 2010 12:11 PM   in response to: alison griffiths in response to: alison griffiths           
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    Yes Alison, I think I can see that now. I wouldnt mind if broadband was a bit slower at peak times, I know thats normal, but when I'm only getting 1mb when my max is 14mb, I just dont feel I'm getting what I pay for. And when it gets to the point where I cant watch iplayer without it stuttering everywhere and online games lagging on the ps3, this is certainly not what I'm paying for.
    I was hoping one of the mods here would help me and check my line and see if there is any cap on the line and get it removed.
    I really dont wanna phone India, I deal with them 5 days a week as is...
    Think I will just send one of the mods an email to check my line and see if it is being capped or if somethings wrong.
    anthony dickerson     
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        Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
    Posted: Jan 22, 2010 3:52 PM   in response to: John Jorgensen in response to: John Jorgensen           
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    You will never get decent speeds on Iplayer,
    BT limit it because they want you to subscribe to their precious BT Vision service.
    The only way you are guaranteed to get decent speeds on BT is to subscibe to BT Vision and also unlimited broadband.
    Then you will get priority when you stream TV at your exchange unlike fighting it out with all the other broadband users as you currently are for the available bandwith.the more over subscribed your local exchange the worse it is
    Paddy B Mod     
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        Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
    Posted: Jan 23, 2010 2:04 PM   in response to: anthony dickerson in response to: anthony dickerson           
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    Hi John,
    I can take a look at the network side of things for you, to see if there is anything I can do to help improve your speed during peak periods. Please could you drop me an email with your BT account details? Please also include a link to this thread. It would also be very helpful if you could run a few speed tests using www.speedtester.bt.com when you feel your Broadband is running slow. I can then check those results from here.
    Thanks
    Paddy
    BT Forum Moderator - [email protected] - if you're emailing please include a link to your thread so I can reference back to it.
    Mateusz Sokolin...     
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        Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
    Posted: Jan 24, 2010 7:33 PM   in response to: John Jorgensen in response to: John Jorgensen           
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    Well John i'll tell you what it is...
    First of all welcome to BT and I hope you'll enjoy 18months of pain and suffer.
    OK here it goes....
    If you look at your contract, find a rule that says Fair Usage Policy.
    Basically it states that BT will cap anyone that is abusing their lines.
    However, it does not say what are the limits after which you are going to be capped for how long and at what times. (I'll come back to this later and explain)
    If you ring 08007076044 I'm sure that someone will confirm my theory. As constant 1MBit between 6PM till 11/12 PM is actually FUP applied on to your account.
    Ok time to explain my frustration about FUP.
    Since I signed my contract with "lovely" BT for constant 4 months I had similar issue but it took me even longer to find out what is going on and how to deal with this problem (thanks to google).
    FUP team states that if you exceed 100GB in a month (everyone will admit that these days 100GB is nothing when a single game for PS3/XBox360/PC sometimes is more than 5GB and 1080p film is about 12GB) will cap you for a month at peak times to outstanding and superfast 1Mbit (about 130-150KB/s).
    I'be been watching my download and for few months never exceeded that 100GB in a month. Been ringing FUP team to verify when suddenly they told me that from (cant remember exactly) March FUP will apply only to accounts that are using Torrents and other P2P.
    you won't believe how happy I was hearing that.... So i've started to download and next month guess what.... 1Mbit connection.
    Really mad rang FUP team and asked them what on earth is going on. They confirmed that its only P2P and I've explained them that I only use Youtube, BBC iPlayer, Rapidshare, Steam and XBox Live, Beatport (just don't understand how ppl can use torrents and other P2P as they are just way to slow). So they were happy to take the cap off my broadband connection.
    Next month same issue solved exactly the same way.
    After that for consecutive few months I had no problem whatsoever until September where FUP Team said that there is no such thing and FUP applies to everyone.
    So just want to say that BT is rubbish that can't keep their word.
    I went to one of the sales advisor in the shopping centre and asked him how FUP works as it does not say in the contract "how, when, who and what".
    So he said that policy is applied based on amount of files downloaded within that 100GB. So if I download e.g. 3x 50GB (although its 150GB altogether) files I wont be affected but 100x 1GB will put a cap on me.
    I've been so curious if what he said was right and started to download 2x 60GB and guess what... Got frigging FUP placed on my account!!!.
    I've got 2months left with them and will be extremely happy to cancel my contract, moreover, I will do everything in my power to sue them under EU Consumer Rights Law (that states that contract should be clear and fair to both sides) as Fair Usage Policy is one of those things that allows BT to do anything they want to their customers;
    1. No clear explanation of what FUP is.
    2. Does not states the amount of downloaded data required to have cap on the acount
    3. Does not states for how long it will be applied
    4. Does not states when it will be applied
    If you look at e.g. Virgin Broadband everything is clearly written in nice and understandable way. It warns you at what times FUP will be applied under what circumstances and for how long. Isn't it what we all want to know??
    Alex Owen     
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        Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
    Posted: Jan 24, 2010 9:35 PM   in response to: Mateusz Sokolin... in response to: Mateusz Sokolin...           
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    @Mateusz I think I maybe a victim of this outragous stint BT have done. I have 2 XBOX 360's running on XBOX Live, 2 Desktop PCs connected to the web constantly, and 3 laptops, we have a torrent sharing running and World Of Warcraft on one of the PCs. All of this is shared across a 6 person family. How can a family where two members goto to college and university do their college ork, download application such as VB.net do their coursework and revise without the hassle of a **** connection. Seriously BT get your ******* head outta your **** and stop this ********, we are customers, we pay for what we are offered. When I signed up several years ago I could download everything on the net woithout infracions on my line being set in motion. You altered my contract without telling me. You will lose custom from this. Also you have ****** my wireless
    Edited by: Alex Owen on Jan 24, 2010 9:36 PM
    amanda jones     
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        Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
    Posted: Jan 25, 2010 8:42 PM   in response to: Alex Owen in response to: Alex Owen           
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    You lot are lucky, We wish we could be capped to 1mbit. Our IP profile is capped to 500kbit because BT say the line isn't good enough for anything more. We are paying for option3 up to 8mbit and BT have said we must continue to pay for it for the remainder of the contract, or buy ourselves out of it early, the reason they give.... Up to 8mbit means up to 8mbit. If you dont get 8mbit then TOUGH LUCK SUCKERS!!
    The outcome? We feel like we've been turned over by a dodgey second hand car salesman called BT. The internet deal he flogged us was a dog, a ringer, it wasn't cosher and certainly had a false MOT certificate.
    Computer Geek     
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        Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
    Posted: Jan 25, 2010 8:49 PM   in response to: amanda jones in response to: amanda jones           
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    Hi Amanda,
    Why have you joined BT Option 3 when you can not get what BT can offer?
    No pun intended but you are a bit of a sucker for paying high prices where other suppliers are cheaper and can provide what your line can support.
    CG
    amanda jones     
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        Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
    Posted: Jan 26, 2010 9:13 PM   in response to: Computer Geek in response to: Computer Geek           
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    we moved house last october to this one, the connection was rubbish from the get-go, BT said the router was broken and we needed a new one, we said OK. That "OK" meant that we had entered into a new contract for option 3 same as out old one. The router wasn't broken, the new one didnt fix or improve the problem, we have since asked for a price reduction or compensation and been told "no". we are in contract and can pay to buy ourselves out of it if we like but otherwise we have to pay for option 3 and recieve fixed rate 500kb.
    Clare Thurston     
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        Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
    Posted: Jan 27, 2010 11:57 AM   in response to: amanda jones in response to: amanda jones           
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    Hi Amanda,
    I think you'll find that the Hold To Term rules have changed. BT are now unable to charge you for the account if you no longer require it. It is against OFCOM's rulings for a company to make more money out of you as a leaving customer than an existing one. However, You will need to pay for the connection charge (if that has not expired it's original differed contract) which is £40. A cancellation fee of £25 if you are simply cancelling and not migrating using a MAC key and for any hardware. The Routers are advertised at £88 and i would suggest that if they believed on to be faulty then that would be replaced under guarantee and not be put on a differed basis. I would check exactly what they say the are charging you and query this through OFCOM. http://www.ofcom.org.uk/

    Months of impecable service form BT as an option 3 customer. (I've even recommended BT to people)
    but
    For the past 2 weeks peak traffic has murdered my connection.
    I can get 14mbit off peak, and it used to drop to about 7-9 at peak times.
    Now its down to 1-2mbit at peak times. (no i haven't breached FUP as I check my btinternet inbox for the 80GB warning)
    I think its resonable to experience drop off but 90%!!!
    BT advertising says fast speeds at peak times. less than 2mbit is not fast. (that the governments minimum standard!!!)
    I don't know how to procede because when I'm experiencing these issues if I ring up I will end up waiting so long to speak to someone (because its peak time) the concection wiill be better again.
    I can think of no recourse other than to approach trading standards...
    Guarnetee me 5mbit at peak times (enough to stream HD iplayer) and I'd be happy
    That is what BT vision customers are in essence are getting + what ever their PC is using.
    Fair usage? what about Fair Supply.

  • Very slow broadband speeds

    Hello
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    Type PPPoA
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    Loss of Power (Local) 0
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    CRC Errors (Down/Up) 297 / 2147480000
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    Error Seconds (Local) 221
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    Once a line is stable and working well, it's best left running 24/7
    Interventions like resets, replacing accelerators, unplugging the router etc. will cause line "flapping"
    And the dslam sees this as instability, and in turn the BRAS lowers the IP profile ....
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    What you have to do, is cure any line noise, plug directly into the master or test socket behind the NTE
    faceplate, leave it connected and wait for the throughput to increase.
    Very often a rock bottom IP may need a kick to get it out of the doldrums.
    Eventually the noise margin will decrease, sync will increase, and IP profile go up.
    Depending on how long the line has suffered impulse noise, will determine the time for SNR to come down.
    Regardless of which type of phone you used to test quietline ... hum or crackle is a no-no.
    It may be the cause of the problems.  It could be REIN on the network portion of the connection or dslam
    crosstalk, either way it needs to be reported as line noise before you can count it out of the equation.

  • VERY slow broadband speeds (0.76mbps) Phoneline?

    VERY slow broadband speeds (0.76mbps)
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    on 28-10-2012 12h38
    ROUTER STATISTICS
    System Up Time: 0:08:24
    Port Status TxPkts RxPkts Collisions Tx B/s Rx B/s Up TimeWANLANWLAN
    MER
    2351
    2177
    0
    136
    104
    0:00:56
    324
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0:08:24
    6762
    6743
    0
    164
    132
    0:07:57
    ADSL Link Downstream UpstreamConnection SpeedLine AttenuationNoise Margin
    766 kbps
    414 kbps
    48.5 db
    27.1 db
    15.7 db
    16.3 db
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    Hi Joe,
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    Dean
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  • Suddenly really slow broadband

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    below is some infos from my router, just 20 mins connected now but already showing some errors not sure how significant they are as I never checked that when all was working fine.
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    ADSL settings
    VPI/VCI
    0/38
    Type
    PPPoA
    Modulation
    ITU-T G.992.1
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    Interleaved
    Noise margin (Down/Up)
    7.7 dB / 23.0 dB
    Line attenuation (Down/Up)
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    0
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    0
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    0
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    273 / 0
    CRC Errors (Down/Up)
    0 / 2147480000
    HEC Errors (Down/Up)
    nil / 0
    Error Seconds (Local)
    0

    the crc up errors are a bug in the firmware.
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  • Fault on Phone and slow broadband

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    Hi there, several years ago BT replaced the the main socket and installed an ADSL V1.0 made a hole through the wall  in the dining room and installed a Hard wired Extention on the inside of the ouside wall of the property, as I was having peoblems with my broadband speeds using an domestic telephone extention lead. 
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  • Slow broadband speed after BT replaced cable to th...

    Hi,
    Until recently I always had a good stable broadband connection. However a couple of weeks ago it started dropping out often. This turned out to be because of a very noisy line, I rarely use the phone and when I went to check it I could hear a lot of noise on the line. I went through BT and an engineer came round this Monday and discovered the cable from outside my house had pretty much corroded away - it had likely been there 40 years! So the cable was replaced and the noise on the phone line went away (Engineer fixed it on the 11th June in the afternoon)
    However during the time the line was bad my broadband (clearly in an attempt to cope with the noise) gained much higher noise margins and gradually got slower and slower, this I can understand.
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    Line state:
    Connected
    Connection time:
    2 days, 06:28:53
    Downstream:
    286.3 Kbps
    Upstream:
    440 Kbps
    ADSL Settings
    VPI/VCI:
    0/38
    Type:
    PPPoA
    Modulation:
    G.992.5 Annex A
    Latency type:
    Interleaved
    Noise margin (Down/Up):
    32.3 dB / 29.7 dB
    Line attenuation (Down/Up):
    9.5 dB / 4.8 dB
    Output power (Down/Up):
    9.6 dBm / 12.9 dBm
    FEC Events (Down/Up):
    0 / 0
    CRC Events (Down/Up):
    0 / 54
    Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):
    0 / 0
    Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
    0 / 0
    Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
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    HEC Events (Down/Up):
    0 / 7
    Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
    0 / 0

    Keith, is this really the only Solution? My conneciton made it to a bit over 3 days, then for some reason its reset again
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    Line state:
    Connected
    Connection time:
    0 days, 01:57:23
    Downstream:
    286.3 Kbps
    Upstream:
    888.9 Kbps
    ADSL Settings
    VPI/VCI:
    0/38
    Type:
    PPPoA
    Modulation:
    G.992.5 Annex A
    Latency type:
    Interleaved
    Noise margin (Down/Up):
    31.4 dB / 13.2 dB
    Line attenuation (Down/Up):
    9.7 dB / 4.8 dB
    Output power (Down/Up):
    10.7 dBm / 10.6 dBm
    FEC Events (Down/Up):
    0 / 0
    CRC Events (Down/Up):
    0 / 0
    Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):
    0 / 0
    Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
    0 / 0
    Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
    0 / 0
    HEC Events (Down/Up):
    0 / 0
    Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
    4 / 0

  • Slower and slower broadband

    Please help, my broadband has been getting slower and slower since early November.  I have a Homehub 3.0 and have phoned the BT helpline on numerous occaisons and been told that my line is fine and that I'm getting 3.5mbps to the house.  I've not been able to get the BT speed test to work on my Mac (each time I get as far as putting in my phone number, it asks if this is correct, I click OK and then nothing happens) so I've been using speedtest.net.  At peak times (evenings and especially weekends I'm getting 0.4 - 0.6mbps and the rest of the time I'm getting 1 - 1.5mbps.  Each time I phone BT I'm fobbed off with a different excuse: it's the phone extensions in my house (sorry I don't have any) / it's my Mac (which is brand new and went back to Apple where it happily ran at a whopping 25mpbs) / my cordless phone is too close (it's now the other side of the room and it's made no difference) / the main socket is worn out (I've got a brand new BT Openreach socket that's been checked and tested) / there's a network fault (they can't tell me what it is, but apparently it's been fixed - but hasn't made a difference).  I have asked for my profile to be reset on numerous occasions (which worked for a friend on Sky and took about 2 minutes to do and fixed the problem) but BT refuse to do this for me.  What else can I do???  Please help!  I used to be able to download films in about an hour, they now time out after 8 hours, I haven't been able to download any of my magazine subscriptions (300-600mb files each time) or even stream a 20 second utube video without it pausing every 2 seconds.  I thought my previous broadband provider was bad, but this is a lot worse.

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    FAQ
    "The test has successfully completed")Test1 comprises of Best Effort Test: -provides background information.
    Download  Speed
    1707 Kbps
    0 Kbps
    2000 Kbps Max Achievable Speed
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  • Slow broadband - Episode 3...

    Hi All,
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    ADSL line status
    Connection information
    Line state
    Connected
    Connection time
    1 day, 5:52:36
    Downstream
    800 Kbps
    Upstream
    448 Kbps
    ADSL settings
    VPI/VCI
    0/38
    Type
    PPPoA
    Modulation
    ITU-T G.992.1
    Latency type
    Interleaved
    Noise margin (Down/Up)
    15.7 dB / 15.0 dB
    Line attenuation (Down/Up)
    60.0 dB / 31.5 dB
    Output power (Down/Up)
    15.4 dBm / 12.3 dBm
    Loss of Framing (Local)
    0
    Loss of Signal (Local)
    0
    Loss of Power (Local)
    0
    FEC Errors (Down/Up)
    1472 / 0
    CRC Errors (Down/Up)
    29 / N/A
    HEC Errors (Down/Up)
    N/A / 0
    Error Seconds (Local)
    22
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    Many thanks,
    Stephen

    Ok... so just checked and the hub's reset itself again.   Speeds are actually improved marginally, but its certainly not a stable link.  Will spend time on this at the w/e to see if I can't trace any issues.  I have another non-BT ADSL modem - is there some merit in swapping it out in case of an issue with the hub itself?
    Thanks,
    Stephen
    ADSL line statusConnection information
    Line state
    Connected
    Connection time
    0 days, 3:16:00
    Downstream
    480 Kbps
    Upstream
    448 Kbps
    ADSL settings
    VPI/VCI
    0/38
    Type
    PPPoA
    Modulation
    ITU-T G.992.1
    Latency type
    Interleaved
    Noise margin (Down/Up)
    18.2 dB / 14.0 dB
    Line attenuation (Down/Up)
    60.0 dB / 31.5 dB
    Output power (Down/Up)
    14.7 dBm / 12.3 dBm
    Loss of Framing (Local)
    1
    Loss of Signal (Local)
    2
    Loss of Power (Local)
    0
    FEC Errors (Down/Up)
    259 / 1
    CRC Errors (Down/Up)
    3 / N/A
    HEC Errors (Down/Up)
    N/A / 1
    Error Seconds (Local)
    55
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  • Re: Very slow broadband speed 128kbps

    Dear John
    Have read your posts with interest.
    I am suffering v slow broadband (Speedtest.net shows Download 0.13 Upload 0.38)
    My Netgear modem stats are below.
    BT came and said that noise levels were too high and reset at the exchange, after replacing the box. Nothing improved and they are coming back. Done all the usual tests but nothing works.
    Any ideas would be gratefully appreciated.
    System Up Time 20:18:59
    Port
    Status
    TxPkts
    RxPkts
    Collisions
    Tx B/s
    Rx B/s
    Up Time
    WAN
    PPPoA
    212574
    271691
    0
    296
    2854
    20:18:26
    LAN
    100M/Full
    276811
    251988
    0
    2912
    492
    20:18:55
    WLAN
    11M/54M
    35891
    4508
    0
    127
    4
    20:18:45
    ADSL Link
    Downstream
    Upstream
    Connection Speed
    3840 kbps
    448 kbps
    Line Attenuation
    40 db
    11.5 db
    Noise Margin
    9 db
    24 db

    as the original post is marked as solved and your problem does not appear the same I have started your own thread where you will get more replies
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  • Very slow broadband speed 128kbps

    I've recently switched from plusnet to BT broadband, and have experienced very slow broadband performance, I have run the usual tests, (BT speedtester) including plugging directly into the test socket behind the BT openreach socket. BT did indicate that there was a fault when I contacted them, but notified me that the fault was resolved, however I am still getting only 128kbps. IP profile for the line is 2Mbps. The latest conversation with BT indicated I have that the noise margin is too high now. I attach connection status report from homehub. Any suggestions welcome.
    Line state:
    Connected
    Connection time:
    0 days, 00:39:26
    Downstream:
    128 Kbps
    Upstream:
    64 Kbps
    ADSL Settings
    VPI/VCI:
    0/38
    Type:
    PPPoA
    Modulation:
    G.992.1 Annex A
    Latency type:
    Fast
    Noise margin (Down/Up):
    32.4 dB / 31.0 dB
    Line attenuation (Down/Up):
    32.3 dB / 17.5 dB
    Output power (Down/Up):
    5.8 dBm / 3.0 dBm
    FEC Events (Down/Up):
    0 / 0
    CRC Events (Down/Up):
    0 / 0
    Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):
    0 / 0
    Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
    0 / 0
    Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
    0 / 0
    HEC Events (Down/Up):
    0 / 0
    Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
    72 / 21
    Solved!
    Go to Solution.

    Line state:
    Connected
    Connection time:
    0 days, 00:02:05
    Downstream:
    128 Kbps
    Upstream:
    64 Kbps
    ADSL Settings
    VPI/VCI:
    0/38
    Type:
    PPPoA
    Modulation:
    G.992.1 Annex A
    Latency type:
    Fast
    Noise margin (Down/Up):
    31.8 dB / 31.0 dB
    Line attenuation (Down/Up):
    32.1 dB / 17.5 dB
    Output power (Down/Up):
    4.7 dBm / 3.3 dBm
    FEC Events (Down/Up):
    0 / 0
    CRC Events (Down/Up):
    0 / 0
    Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):
    0 / 0
    Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
    0 / 0
    Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
    0 / 0
    HEC Events (Down/Up):
    0 / 0
    Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
    80 / 24
    This is the ADSL configuration connected through the test socket

  • Very slow Broadband in Crawley after "Upgrade to u...

    7.5 days after a service upgrade in my Crawley area I am still experiencing a painfully slow broadband connection.
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    I am mystified why this is so slow - my previous experience of line faults in the last two years was nothing like this, & service stabilised within 2 days. 
    Last month during consultation over a separate BT Vision issue I was advised I was seeing 4.7 meg.  
    BT India seem confident my broadband speed will self-restore if I wait another few days, but I am not so confident. I have tonights Speedtest & hub line status
    Speedtester 20:25 26/10/10
    FAQ
    Test1 comprises of two tests
    1. Best Effort Test: -provides background information.
    Download Speed
    45 Kbps
    0 Kbps
    250 Kbps
    Max Achievable Speed
     Download speed achieved during the test was - 45 Kbps
     For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 100-250 Kbps.
     Additional Information:
     Your DSL Connection Rate :280 Kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 444 Kbps(UP-STREAM)
     IP Profile for your line is - 135 Kbps
    The throughput of Best Efforts (BE) classes achieved during the test is - 9.84:40.87:49.29 (SBE:NBEBE)
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    Upload Speed
    366 Kbps
    0 Kbps
    444 Kbps
    Max Achievable Speed
    >Upload speed achieved during the test was - 366 Kbps
     Additional Information:
     Upstream Rate IP profile on your line is - 444 Kbps
    ADSL line status
     Connection information
    Line state
    Connected
    Connection time
    1 day, 9:41:15
    Downstream
    283 Kbps
    Upstream
    446 Kbps
    ADSL settings
    VPI/VCI
    0/38
    Type
    PPPoA
    Modulation
    ITU-T G.992.5
    Latency type
    Interleaved
    Noise margin (Down/Up)
    25.3 dB / 15.4 dB
    Line attenuation (Down/Up)
    52.5 dB / 30.1 dB
    Output power (Down/Up)
    18.1 dBm / 12.0 dBm

    Hi DCAI
    I can have this investigated for you.
    Drop me an email to the email address in my profile. Please remember to include your BT Account number, telephone number and a link to this thread.
    Cheers
    Stuart
    BTCare Community Mod
    If we have asked you to email us with your details, please make sure you are logged in to the forum, otherwise you will not be able to see our ‘Contact Us’ link within our profiles.
    We are sorry that we are unable to deal with service/account queries via the private message(PM) function so please don't PM your account info, we need to deal with this via our email account :-)

  • Help Required - Slow Broadband

    I need help!
    I've been suffering with slow broadband since joining BT in in November. When I signed up they estimated performance would be around 2Mb but I'm getting less than 25% of that.
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    Download Speed achieved 443 Kbps against a acceptable range of 50-500 Kbps
    IP profile for line 500 Kbps
    DSL connection rate 576 Kbps (down-stream) 288 Kbps (up-stream)
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    When I initially switched I had two hubs fail in quick succession (one power supply failure and a replacement that would not restart from sleep mode) which caused the link to be up and down like a yo-yo in the first few weeks and I'm wondering if this has confused the exchange. The third router has been fine.
    Solved!
    Go to Solution.

    Keith
    Thanks for the reply I am using a Home Hub 3 and the information is below. I've also tried a quite line test and it had no noticeable noise.
    ADSL Line Status
    Connection information
    Top of Form
    Line state:
    Connected
    Connection time:
    21 days, 01:57:52
    Downstream:
    576 Kbps
    Upstream:
    288 Kbps
    ADSL settings
    VPI/VCI:
    0/38
    Type:
    PPPoA
    Modulation:
    G.992.1 Annex A
    Latency type:
    Fast
    Noise margin   (Down/Up):
    16.6 dB / 19.0 dB
    Line attenuation   (Down/Up):
    54.5 dB / 31.5 dB
    Output power   (Down/Up):
    15.5 dBm / 11.9   dBm
    FEC Events   (Down/Up):
    0 / 40
    CRC Events   (Down/Up):
    7004 / 453
    Loss of Framing   (Local/Remote):
    0 / 0
    Loss of Signal   (Local/Remote):
    0 / 0
    Loss of Power   (Local/Remote):
    0 / 0
    Loss of Link   (Remote):
    0
    HEC Errors   (Down/Up):
    3451 / 177
    Error Seconds   (Local/Remote):
    0 / 0
    Bottom of Form

  • Re: Slow broadband every night 10pm-Midnight

    I am experiencing very slow broadband every night from 10pm. I searched the forum and saw this post and notied it was marked as 'solved' Can you tell me what the problem is here and how to solve it? I
    magnamundian wrote:
    Subject says it all really, switched to BT around 1 month ago and every night between 10pm and Midnight my broadband slows to a speed that would make dial-up blush.  After midnight things ramp back up to normal.  I don't P2P and this situation is consistent regardless of whether I have used the broadband heavily during the day (Netflix) or not used the broadband at all (until I tried to use at 10pm), so I'm discounting any ideas of traffic shaping or limits.
    BT Line/Speed Checker results (http://diagnostics.bt.com/speedtest/)
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    At all other times of day the broadband lives up to expectations.  Any advise appreciated, we previous had no problems with BE Broadband except for dire connections to US/Japan Servers (Sony/Square Enix etc), which was pretty much a problem of insufficient bandwidth on their backbone network.
    Additional information from BTHomeHub.home:
    ADSL Line Status
    Connection information
    Line state:
    Connected
    Connection time:
    9 days, 18:20:04
    Downstream:
    20,609 Kbps
    Upstream:
    1,276 Kbps
      ADSL settings
    VPI/VCI:
    0/38
    Type:
    PPPoA
    Modulation:
    G.992.5 Annex A
    Latency type:
    Interleaved
    Noise margin (Down/Up):
    2.1 dB / 6.8 dB
    Line attenuation (Down/Up):
    27.5 dB / 16.6 dB
    Output power (Down/Up):
    0.0 dBm / 12.6 dBm
    FEC Events (Down/Up):
    1086302352 / 0
    CRC Events (Down/Up):
    3453520 / 1589
    Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):
    0 / 0
    Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
    0 / 0
    Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
    0 / 0
    Loss of Link (Remote):
    0
    HEC Errors (Down/Up):
    65406711 / 1420
    Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
    0 / 364
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    magnamundian wrote:
    Subject says it all really, switched to BT around 1 month ago and every night between 10pm and Midnight my broadband slows to a speed that would make dial-up blush.  After midnight things ramp back up to normal.  I don't P2P and this situation is consistent regardless of whether I have used the broadband heavily during the day (Netflix) or not used the broadband at all (until I tried to use at 10pm), so I'm discounting any ideas of traffic shaping or limits.
    BT Line/Speed Checker results (http://diagnostics.bt.com/speedtest/)
    After a good 10 minutes wait (not the 45 seconds advertised) the Exchange > HomeHub test came back with... well nothing really, the nifty Exchange > House graphic disappeared (after 10 minutes) and I suppose the results page was due to appear but after another 10 minutes I was still looking at "transferring data from BT.com" in the bottom of my browser...  If I manage to get it to complete the cycle later I'll post the result.
    At all other times of day the broadband lives up to expectations.  Any advise appreciated, we previous had no problems with BE Broadband except for dire connections to US/Japan Servers (Sony/Square Enix etc), which was pretty much a problem of insufficient bandwidth on their backbone network.
    Additional information from BTHomeHub.home:
    ADSL Line Status
    Connection information
    Line state:
    Connected
    Connection time:
    9 days, 18:20:04
    Downstream:
    20,609 Kbps
    Upstream:
    1,276 Kbps
      ADSL settings
    VPI/VCI:
    0/38
    Type:
    PPPoA
    Modulation:
    G.992.5 Annex A
    Latency type:
    Interleaved
    Noise margin (Down/Up):
    2.1 dB / 6.8 dB
    Line attenuation (Down/Up):
    27.5 dB / 16.6 dB
    Output power (Down/Up):
    0.0 dBm / 12.6 dBm
    FEC Events (Down/Up):
    1086302352 / 0
    CRC Events (Down/Up):
    3453520 / 1589
    Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):
    0 / 0
    Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
    0 / 0
    Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
    0 / 0
    Loss of Link (Remote):
    0
    HEC Errors (Down/Up):
    65406711 / 1420
    Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
    0 / 364

    A "lay" explanation is this.
    As IMJ has stated, at night the noise margin is dropping to a level whereby it becomes difficult for the DSL to bitload the data into the ADSL spectrum without undue error correction and bitswapping, and often increased error rate.
    This situation tends to throttle down throughput .... and if it got worse, which clearly it isn't doing, it's just staying at a poor level .... the modem would drop the connection, and renegotiate .... and come back with target margin, at which juncture it would bitload and throughput would return to normal.
    So what IMJ is saying is ... if it doesn;t drop and continues to hobble along .... force a drop, or reset it, and it will come back as if it had dropped by the modem forcing a drop.
    In the end DLM will hopefully get hold of the situation and set the line parameters in a fashion which will sustain a connection and bitload properly 24 hours a day .... but sometimes it needs help, and especially if it didn't linetrain properly.
    If it continues manual intervention is useful to set the noise margin accordingly until the line has re-trained.
    Resetting the hub or modem is not a good idea with DSL, however in this instance if an automatic cure is not forthcoming, it is the ONLY time I would advocate a router reset, especially at night, when margin is depleted.

  • Very slow broadband.

    Been having very slow broadband for a few days ( cant watch videos etc ) but its ok to browes slowley. I have a home hub and my laptop is connected via an earthlink cable. Done a speed test and will post results below. Can anyone tell me how to speed my broadband up?
    Thanks in advance
    Aston
    FAQ
    Test1 comprises of two tests
    1. Best Effort Test: -provides background information.
    Download  Speed
    534 Kbps
    0 Kbps
    1000 Kbps
    Max Achievable Speed
     Download speedachieved during the test was - 534 Kbps
     For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 400-1000 Kbps.
     Additional Information:
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     IP Profile for your line is - 613 Kbps
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    Upload Speed
    679 Kbps
    0 Kbps
    888 Kbps
    Max Achievable Speed
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     Additional Information:
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    If you continue to encounter a problem with a specific server, please contact the administrator of that server in the first instance.
    Solved!
    Go to Solution.

    Quiet line test ok, do have other wall sockets,but dont use them.
    ADSL line status
    Connection information
    Line state
    Connected
    Connection time
    16 days, 0:48:32
    Downstream
    698 Kbps
    Upstream
    888 Kbps
    ADSL settings
    VPI/VCI
    0/38
    Type
    PPPoA
    Modulation
    ITU-T G.992.5
    Latency type
    Interleave
    Noise margin (Down/Up)
    30.6 dB / 7.3 dB
    Line attenuation (Down/Up)
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    Output power (Down/Up)
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    Loss of Framing (Local)
    0
    Loss of Signal (Local)
    0
    Loss of Power (Local)
    0
    FEC Errors (Down/Up)
    0 / 1861
    CRC Errors (Down/Up)
    150 / 2147480001
    HEC Errors (Down/Up)
    56 / 104870
    Error Seconds (Local)
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