Slow broadband speed after noisy line repaired

I've recently had a noisy line which eventually got repaired (dirty connection on block at local poll). Since then Broadband has remained connected (good) but download speed has been none existant >250Kbps ASDL line details are as below:
I'm not getting any progress on the fault I've registered with BT on Dec 12 (says more testing is required), I keep chasing with the online support chat but keep getting the same response "we need to do some checks on the line we will get back to you in a hour or so, an then nothing". Any tips on how to get resolution of the issue speeded up?
ADSL line status
Connection information
Line state
Connected
Connection time
0 days, 0:00:44
Downstream
283 Kbps
Upstream
1,088 Kbps
ADSL settings
VPI/VCI
0/38
Type
PPPoA
Modulation
ITU-T G.992.5
Latency type
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up)
9.2 dB / 6.3 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up)
43.5 dB / 24.0 dB
Output power (Down/Up)
0.0 dBm / 13.0 dBm
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Well the noise margin has gone up from 9.2bB to 15.4dB, which is much better, and leaves lots of room for a speed improvement.
You must be losing a lot of signal between the master socket and wherever you plug your home hub into.
Your estimated final speed should be about 7552Kbs, but you are stuck in a banded profile due to the line fault.
You are not going to get the full speed with a margin of 9.2db, but if its not practical to use the master socket, it would be worth disconnecting the bellwire while you are up in the loft, as that may help reduce any problems on your extension.
See here for instructions.
Bellwire fix.
This could help quite a bit.
There are some useful help pages here, for BT Broadband customers only, on my personal website.
BT Broadband customers - help with broadband, WiFi, networking, e-mail and phones.

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Capped (very slow) broadband speed after line repa...

Hello,
I have just had my BT line repaired due to a fault on the line 400 metres from my property. However, although the line is now fine and there is no crackling and a normal dial tone, my broadband speed seems to be capped at 273 kbps download and 811 kbps upload speeds. It won't go any faster. Before I would get roughly 2.5mb. My noise margin is 8db (it has always been quite low) and line attenuation is 58.5db (I am a fair way from the exchange).
Is there any way to manually reset the IP profile so that it goes back to normal or do I have to wait until the exchange server thinks my line is "stable"?
Any help much appreciated...
Many thanks.
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welcome to the BT community forum where customers help customers and only BT employees are the forum mods
from the information you have provided you are on 21CN adsl2 and your profile will be correct as it changes as and when your conenction speed changes. problem is probably your low connection speed
in order for the forum members to help please can you post the adsl stats from your router may need to 'show detail' to get all stats (if hub enter 192.168.1.254 in your browser and navigate to adsl or use a-z, if netgear enter 192.168.0.1) and run btspeedtester (MAC users may have problems). when first test completes then run diagnostic test and post the results .
are you connected directly via a filter to the NTE5 master or test socket or to somewhere else? Is the master the only phone socket in your home?
Have you tried the quiet line test? - dial 17070 option 2 - should hear nothing - best done with a corded phone. if cordless phone you may hear a 'dull hum' which is normal
Someone may then be able to offer help/assistance/suggestions to your problem
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Slow broadband speed after BT replaced cable to th...

Hi,
Until recently I always had a good stable broadband connection. However a couple of weeks ago it started dropping out often. This turned out to be because of a very noisy line, I rarely use the phone and when I went to check it I could hear a lot of noise on the line. I went through BT and an engineer came round this Monday and discovered the cable from outside my house had pretty much corroded away - it had likely been there 40 years! So the cable was replaced and the noise on the phone line went away (Engineer fixed it on the 11th June in the afternoon)
However during the time the line was bad my broadband (clearly in an attempt to cope with the noise) gained much higher noise margins and gradually got slower and slower, this I can understand.
The problem is now the line is repaired its still stuck at this lower speed which is really rather slow. I have read that eventually the IP profile will reset itself, but I work from home some of the time and this current speed is a real problem for me. Is there anything I can get done to get it back up to speed?
Line state:
Connected
Connection time:
2 days, 06:28:53
Downstream:
286.3 Kbps
Upstream:
440 Kbps
ADSL Settings
VPI/VCI:
0/38
Type:
PPPoA
Modulation:
G.992.5 Annex A
Latency type:
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up):
32.3 dB / 29.7 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up):
9.5 dB / 4.8 dB
Output power (Down/Up):
9.6 dBm / 12.9 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up):
0 / 0
CRC Events (Down/Up):
0 / 54
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
HEC Events (Down/Up):
0 / 7
Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
0 / 0

Keith, is this really the only Solution? My conneciton made it to a bit over 3 days, then for some reason its reset again
This time the upload speed has gone up some but download is unacceptable. If I have to wait another 5 days then its going to end up about 2 weeks I have had very slow broadband from BT (and who knows if it will stay up 5 days this time...), yet I boubt they will be refunding me my money for the BT vision service I can't use due to the speed issues with the BT connection. Seriously having to wait 5 days after they fix a problem is ridiculous, especially when it might reset at any point!
Line state:
Connected
Connection time:
0 days, 01:57:23
Downstream:
286.3 Kbps
Upstream:
888.9 Kbps
ADSL Settings
VPI/VCI:
0/38
Type:
PPPoA
Modulation:
G.992.5 Annex A
Latency type:
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up):
31.4 dB / 13.2 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up):
9.7 dB / 4.8 dB
Output power (Down/Up):
10.7 dBm / 10.6 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up):
0 / 0
CRC Events (Down/Up):
0 / 0
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
HEC Events (Down/Up):
0 / 0
Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
4 / 0

Very slow connection speed, after phone line probl...

My catalogue of problems starts about a month ago. The phone line developed heavy interference and my Broadband connection kept dropping. This was diagnosed as being a fault with my HH 1.5. BT duly sent me a replacement HH3 which arrived about 3 days later. I installed the new hub, changed all the wiring and the filters for the new kit that came with the hub only to discover that the interference on the phone line was now even worse. It was so bad that at times you could not even hear what was being said on the other end of the phone, so an engineer visit was arranged.
A week later a BT engineer came and checked the line, sure enough there was a second problem and all the wiring from my house to the nearest telephone pole had to be replaced.
These problems had had a catastrophic effect on my connection speed and profile (I was getting about 500 kbps both up and down stream), so I dutifully reset the hub after the engineer had finished and waited for the line to stabilise.
14 days later and the upload speed had doubled, but the download speed is still unchanged at 570 kbps, about half the current upload speed. The line was a bit temperamental for the first few days but I have been able to maintain a solid connection for the last 4 days, current stats are as follows:
ADSL Line Status
Connection Information
Line state:
Connected
Connection time:
4 days, 04:42:16
Downstream:
574.3 Kbps
Upstream:
1.184 Mbps
ADSL Settings
VPI/VCI:
0/38
Type:
PPPoA
Modulation:
G.992.5 Annex A
Latency type:
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up):
29.9 dB / 5.6 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up):
19.6 dB / 12.8 dB
Output power (Down/Up):
18.3 dBm / 12.4 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up):
279 / 615
CRC Events (Down/Up):
0 / 94
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
HEC Events (Down/Up):
0 / 156
Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
0 / 42
There is only one active socket in the house, and the hub has been running from the test socket for the last week.
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The Hub is connected to the test socket. Disconnecting the ADSL feed to the hub has had no real effect (The upload speed increased marginaly but still no change to the download speed). Reran speedtest too, the new stats are:
FAQ
1. Best Effort Test: -provides background information.
Download Speed
0.44 Mbps
0 Mbps
0.5 Mbps
Max Achievable Speed
Download speedachieved during the test was - 0.44 Mbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 0.1 Mbps-0.5 Mbps.
IP Profile for your line is - 0.51 Mbps
2. Upstream Test: -provides background information.
Upload Speed
0.94 Mbps
0 Mbps
0.83 Mbps
Max Achievable Speed
Upload speed achieved during the test was - 0.94Mbps
Additional Information:
Upstream Rate IP profile on your line is - 0.83 Mbps
ADSL Line Status
Connection Information
Line state:
Connected
Connection time:
0 days, 00:02:29
Downstream:
574.3 Kbps
Upstream:
1.2 Mbps
ADSL Settings
VPI/VCI:
0/38
Type:
PPPoA
Modulation:
G.992.5 Annex A
Latency type:
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up):
29.9 dB / 5.9 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up):
19.5 dB / 12.7 dB
Output power (Down/Up):
18.3 dBm / 12.4 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up):
0 / 0
CRC Events (Down/Up):
0 / 0
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
HEC Events (Down/Up):
0 / 0
Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
6 / 63

Slow broadband speed after exchange upgrade

Hi,
I wonder if anyone can help. My local exchange was 'upgraded' on 14th August, immediately following that my Broadband speed has halved and never recovered, I used to get approx 7Mbps connection speed with a 5.8 ~ 6.3 Mbps down load speed. SInce then and upto now I only get a connection speed of approx 3.3Mbps with a download speed of around 2.8Mbps.
Since we have BT Vision this is now close to the limit of what it requires to work for on demand content.
I have spoken to BT Technical on a number of occasions. At first they told me it was my router (HomeHub V1) and that I could have a new one if a signed up for another 12 months. Since I doubted this and I also had a Home Hub V1.5 router I swapped to this router and it gave the same results! This was on the 7th September.
Since then I have spoken to BT Technical on a number of occasions, always this involves the same path - get asked whether I have tried different microfilter, connection to the main socket blah blah. Then they check the exchange, it comes up with a CC12 ADQ error, they ask BT Wholesale to investigate, BT Wholesale clear the error, BT technical ring back, ask me if speed is any better, tell them no, they say they will reset the line profile, this makes no difference!
If I ring again then we just go round in the same circle again.
Has anyone got any ideas or can someone sort this out, fed up of pointless phone calls at the moment!
Here are the line statistics from the BT Home Hub (V1.5) as things currently stand.:
Hope someone can help,
Thanks
DSL Connection
Link Information
Uptime:
0 days, 13:08:25
Modulation:
G.992.5 annex A
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]:
664 / 3,327
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/MB]:
11.57 / 62.47
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]:
9.5 / 0.0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]:
8.5 / 18.5
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]:
11.0 / 27.5
Vendor ID (Local/Remote):
TMMB / IFTN
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote):
0
Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down):
0 / 0
CRC Errors (Up/Down):
0 / 6
HEC Errors (Up/Down):
0 / 0
Line Profile:
Fast

Well 12 days later and still no improvement. Changed back to the homehub V1.0 (10 days ago) as the Homehub V1.5 was to unstable and kept dropping connection every few hours.
Spoke to BT technical last Sunday, they agreed to send me a new HomeHub in the end. This has now been lost / stolen during delivery - what a farce. Spoke to BT Technical again last night, went through the same sets of testing same results. Technical this time said I shouldn't have been sent a new homehub anyway as I was not in contract!
Reading through this forum and others it seems that there are a lot of people reporting speed issues (speed halving from original sync/download speed) when exchange has been upgraded to ADSL 2+ and the home hub is V1.0 or V1.5.
The tech i spoke to last night seemed to think it was the homehub but said i wouldn't get another one unless I signed a new contract. Told him there was no way I would sign a new contract when their customer service was so poor and they are unable to resolve problems.
He stated he would reset the I.P. profile. This morning download SNR has shot up to 30db (has got down to 18db) last night and sync speed was lower.
It seems to me that BT know there is an issue with HH V1.0 and V1.5 and ADSL 2+ but rather than send you a new router ask that you sign up to a new contract. This seems partly a ruse just to tie people into another 12 month contract.
My neighbours have the same set up and are experiencing the same problems since the exchange upgrade!

Slow Broadband speed after a spate of faults

Hi all,
have read many messages on here over the last few weeks and gained a lot of useful info, thanks.
My own issue started a couple months ago with a line fault which led to very poor phone and non-existant broadband, this was repaired within a few days by BT, at the same time the engineer who was very good tested the internal wiring and disconnected some very poor extensions for outside bells etc.
After he left we continued having problems and identified the problem as a faulty ADSL filter, STILL had issues with the router locking up and running extremely slowly every few hours, so router was replaced.
Now all is fine and have been connected for 3 days with no issues other then speed.
Here are the stats:
Down Speed : 2269kBps
Up Speed : 1023kBps
Attenuation (Down/Up) 38/10.5 dB
SNR Margin (down/Up) 19/4 dB
Router is now a netgear DG834v3 with dgteam firmware, connected via adsl 2+
I have phoned bt customer support and they claim to know nothing about why the speed is so low and say that it is good for my line, however I used to get 6Mb+ before the 'troubles'
Any help much appreciated,
Cheers,
Olly
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Hi john, thanks for advice, here are my stats.
I no longer have any extensions, and the router has been connected to the test socket for 3 days, through an asdl filter with a walkabout phone.
AR7 DSL Modem Statistics: -------------------------------- [DSL Modem Stats] US Connection Rate: 1002 DS Connection Rate: 2269 DS Line Attenuation: 38 DS Margin: 20 US Line Attenuation: 21 US Margin: 6 US Payload : 2108690496 DS Payload: 2333705712 US Superframe Cnt : 15116685 DS Superframe Cnt: 15116686 US Transmit Power : 0 DS Transmit Power: 0 LOS errors: 0 SEF errors: 0 Errored Seconds: 6 Severely Err Secs: 1 Frame mode: 0 Max Frame mode: 0 Trained Path: 1 US Peak Cell Rate: 2363 Trained Mode: 8 Selected Mode: 1 ATUC Vendor Code: 4946544E ATUC Revision: 2 Hybrid Selected: 3 Trellis: 1 Showtime Count: 4 DS Max Attainable Bit Rate: 7492 kbps BitSwap: 1 US Max Attainable Bit Rate: 1004000 bps Annex: AnxA psd_mask_qualifier: 0x0000 Power Management Status: L0 DS HLINSC: 0 US ACTPSD: -345 DS ACTPSD: -366 Total init. errors: 4 Total init. timeouts: 0 Showtime init. errors: 0 Showtime init. timeouts: 0 Last showtime init. errors: 1 Last showtime init. timeouts: 0 ATUC ghsVid: b5 00 49 46 54 4e 71 be T1413Vid: 00 00 T1413Rev: 00 VendorRev: 00 ATUR ghsVid: b5 00 54 53 54 43 00 00 T1413Vid: 00 00 T1413Rev: 00 VendorRev: 00
[Upstream (TX) Interleave path] CRC: 0 FEC: 0 NCD: 0 LCD: 0 HEC: 0
[Downstream (RX) Interleave path] CRC: 5 FEC: 2459 NCD: 0 LCD: 0 HEC: 0
[Upstream (TX) Fast path] CRC: 0 FEC: 0 NCD: 0 LCD: 0 HEC: 0
[Downstream (RX) Fast path] CRC: 0 FEC: 0 NCD: 0 LCD: 0 HEC: 0
[ATM Stats] [Upstream/TX] Good Cell Cnt: 43931052 Idle Cell Cnt: 563942044
Tx Packets Dropped Count: 0 Tx Bad Packets Count: 5293
[Downstream/RX)] Good Cell Cnt: 48618869 Idle Cell Cnt: 1326965118 Bad Hec Cell Cnt: 22 Overflow Dropped Cell Cnt: 0 Rx Packets Dropped Count: 0 Rx Bad Packets Count: 0
[SAR AAL5 Stats] Tx PDU's: 7164003 Rx PDU's: 8835823 Tx Total Bytes: 3316898468 Rx Total Bytes: 1900473039 Tx Total Error Counts: 0 Rx Total Error Counts: 3
[OAM Stats] Near End F5 Loop Back Count: 0 Near End F4 Loop Back Count: 0 Far End F5 Loop Back Count: 0 Far End F4 Loop Back Count: 0 SAR OAM Ping Response Drop Count=0
And here is todays speedtester result.
FAQ
1. Best Effort Test: -provides background information.
Download Speed
1.84 Mbps
0 Mbps
2 Mbps Max Achievable Speed
Download speedachieved during the test was - 1.84 Mbps For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 0.8 Mbps-2 Mbps. IP Profile for your line is - 2 Mbps
2. Upstream Test: -provides background information.
Upload Speed
0.87 Mbps
0 Mbps
0.83 Mbps Max Achievable Speed
Upload speed achieved during the test was - 0.87Mbps Additional Information: Upstream Rate IP profile on your line is - 0.83 Mbps
I hope these results are o.k. being that they have been connected for 3 days, but I am trying not to disconnect for 5 days or more.
Just one more thing, the SNR is 20db in the day dropping to 15db at night, it is a long overhead overhead supplying the property (1 mile +).
Thanks,
Olly

SLOW BROADBAND SPEED AFTER NETWORK UPGRADE IN MY ...

On 15 Dec 10 I received an email from BT Broadband saying " congratulations the BB Network has been upgraded in my area ( Woodley, Berkshire, Exchange) I was warned I would experience reduced BB speads for up to 10 days then would see improvement. Before the upgrade I was getting an average download speed of 3670kbps, after 10 days the download speed never rose above 1000 kbps. I contacted the BT Call Center in India who confirmed that there was an external problem with my BB and sent me a new BT Home Hub2. I set the new hub up on 6th Jan 2011, however there was no improvement in down or upload speed even over the following 10 days.
On 17 jan 2011 I contacted the Call centre in India again, and it was confirmed by them that the fault was with BT retail / wholesale servers. Also since the problem had been outstanding for so long they " escalated the fault to BT Wholesale, and also booked an ADSL Engineer to come to my home on Wed 3rd Feb ( am visit). I am not sure what he will be able to achieve if the fault is external.!
Since 17 Jan the Call Centre has telephoned me every day to ask if there has been any improvement in my BB speed ( sometimes they have phoned 3 times a day! ) I am impressed with the daily contact from them however they seem powerless to get BT Wholesale to action the fault despite the fact that the fault has been escalated in priority.
My ADSL Line satus indicates:
Downstream 1.152 kbps
Upstream 1163 kbps
ADSL Settings
VPI/VCI 0/38
Type PPPoA
Modulation ITU-TG.992.5
Latency Type Interleaved
Noise Margin (Down/Up) 31.4 dB/5.8 dB
Line Attenuation ( down/Up) 38.5 dB /17.7 dB
Output Power (Down /Up) 0.0 dBm / 12.8 dBm
Loss of Framing 67
Loss of Signal 6
Loss of Power 0
FEC Errors ( Down / Up) 0 / 4294967224
CRC Errors ( Down / Up) 1/2147480000
HEC Errors (Down / Up) nil / 0
Error Seconds ( local) 11
The BT Speed Tester Results are as follows:
Best Effort Test - Download Speed 1017 Kbps
IP Profile for line is 1000Kbps
Upstream Test:
Upload speed 953 Kbps
Upstream Rate IP profie for line is 1163 Kbps
I would be grateful if you could offer advice or take any action which would resolve the situation Thank you.
In the meantime I await todays call from the BT Call Centre in India to report any progress that has been made !!
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As requested Speed test results after hub self reset are shown below. Also the noise margin has decreased to 28bd. On this basis I have already emailed the mod team as you suggested Speed Test RESULTS Test1 comprises of two tests 1. Best Effort Test: -provides background information. Download Speed 1103 Kbps 0 Kbps 1000 Kbps Max Achievable Speed Download speedachieved during the test was - 1103 Kbps For your connection, the acceptable range of speedsis 400-1000 Kbps. Additional Information: Your DSL Connection Rate :2272 Kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 1163 Kbps(UP-STREAM) IP Profile for your line is - 1000 Kbps The throughput of Best Efforts (BE) classes achieved during the test is - 26.13:18.61:55.26 (SBE:NBEBE) These figures represent the ratio while sententiously passing Sub BE, Normal BE and Priority BE marked traffic. The results of this test will vary depending on the way your ISP has decided to use these traffic classes. 2. Upstream Test: -provides background information. Upload Speed 953 Kbps 0 Kbps 1163 Kbps Max Achievable Speed >Upload speed achieved during the test was - 953 Kbps Additional Information: Upstream Rate IP profile on your line is - 1163 Kbps

From the old forum.... Slow broadband speeds in th...

FROM THE OLD FORUM Original post by John Jorgensen...
Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 22, 2010 9:17 AM
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Hi,
I have had bt broadband opt3 for almost 3 months now and have always had a healthy 9mb+ connection, however have noticed it being very slow in the evening when I come home from work, I checked the speed last nite as iplayer was constantly freezing and was getting 1mb . A bit upset by this as I got bt broadband to play my ps3 online and to get faster speeds on my laptop, and I use these services mostly at nite.
I checked my speed this morning and was getting 11mb, is this normal or am I being capped I cant believe Id be going over my download limit. Can someone from bt get back to me on this?
Thanks
John
alison griffiths
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   Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 22, 2010 11:22 AM   in response to: John Jorgensen in response to: John Jorgensen
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Welcome to the world of BT , the tv advert when he says " business slow" when trying to load a webpage is not other companies thats BT.
John Jorgensen
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Registered: 9/2/09
   Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 22, 2010 12:11 PM   in response to: alison griffiths in response to: alison griffiths
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Yes Alison, I think I can see that now. I wouldnt mind if broadband was a bit slower at peak times, I know thats normal, but when I'm only getting 1mb when my max is 14mb, I just dont feel I'm getting what I pay for. And when it gets to the point where I cant watch iplayer without it stuttering everywhere and online games lagging on the ps3, this is certainly not what I'm paying for.
I was hoping one of the mods here would help me and check my line and see if there is any cap on the line and get it removed.
I really dont wanna phone India, I deal with them 5 days a week as is...
Think I will just send one of the mods an email to check my line and see if it is being capped or if somethings wrong.
anthony dickerson
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   Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 22, 2010 3:52 PM   in response to: John Jorgensen in response to: John Jorgensen
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You will never get decent speeds on Iplayer,
BT limit it because they want you to subscribe to their precious BT Vision service.
The only way you are guaranteed to get decent speeds on BT is to subscibe to BT Vision and also unlimited broadband.
Then you will get priority when you stream TV at your exchange unlike fighting it out with all the other broadband users as you currently are for the available bandwith.the more over subscribed your local exchange the worse it is
Paddy B Mod
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   Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 23, 2010 2:04 PM   in response to: anthony dickerson in response to: anthony dickerson
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Hi John,
I can take a look at the network side of things for you, to see if there is anything I can do to help improve your speed during peak periods. Please could you drop me an email with your BT account details? Please also include a link to this thread. It would also be very helpful if you could run a few speed tests using www.speedtester.bt.com when you feel your Broadband is running slow. I can then check those results from here.
Thanks
Paddy
BT Forum Moderator - [email protected] - if you're emailing please include a link to your thread so I can reference back to it.
Mateusz Sokolin...
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   Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 24, 2010 7:33 PM   in response to: John Jorgensen in response to: John Jorgensen
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Well John i'll tell you what it is...
First of all welcome to BT and I hope you'll enjoy 18months of pain and suffer.
OK here it goes....
If you look at your contract, find a rule that says Fair Usage Policy.
Basically it states that BT will cap anyone that is abusing their lines.
However, it does not say what are the limits after which you are going to be capped for how long and at what times. (I'll come back to this later and explain)
If you ring 08007076044 I'm sure that someone will confirm my theory. As constant 1MBit between 6PM till 11/12 PM is actually FUP applied on to your account.
Ok time to explain my frustration about FUP.
Since I signed my contract with "lovely" BT for constant 4 months I had similar issue but it took me even longer to find out what is going on and how to deal with this problem (thanks to google).
FUP team states that if you exceed 100GB in a month (everyone will admit that these days 100GB is nothing when a single game for PS3/XBox360/PC sometimes is more than 5GB and 1080p film is about 12GB) will cap you for a month at peak times to outstanding and superfast 1Mbit (about 130-150KB/s).
I'be been watching my download and for few months never exceeded that 100GB in a month. Been ringing FUP team to verify when suddenly they told me that from (cant remember exactly) March FUP will apply only to accounts that are using Torrents and other P2P.
you won't believe how happy I was hearing that.... So i've started to download and next month guess what.... 1Mbit connection.
Really mad rang FUP team and asked them what on earth is going on. They confirmed that its only P2P and I've explained them that I only use Youtube, BBC iPlayer, Rapidshare, Steam and XBox Live, Beatport (just don't understand how ppl can use torrents and other P2P as they are just way to slow). So they were happy to take the cap off my broadband connection.
Next month same issue solved exactly the same way.
After that for consecutive few months I had no problem whatsoever until September where FUP Team said that there is no such thing and FUP applies to everyone.
So just want to say that BT is rubbish that can't keep their word.
I went to one of the sales advisor in the shopping centre and asked him how FUP works as it does not say in the contract "how, when, who and what".
So he said that policy is applied based on amount of files downloaded within that 100GB. So if I download e.g. 3x 50GB (although its 150GB altogether) files I wont be affected but 100x 1GB will put a cap on me.
I've been so curious if what he said was right and started to download 2x 60GB and guess what... Got frigging FUP placed on my account!!!.
I've got 2months left with them and will be extremely happy to cancel my contract, moreover, I will do everything in my power to sue them under EU Consumer Rights Law (that states that contract should be clear and fair to both sides) as Fair Usage Policy is one of those things that allows BT to do anything they want to their customers;
1. No clear explanation of what FUP is.
2. Does not states the amount of downloaded data required to have cap on the acount
3. Does not states for how long it will be applied
4. Does not states when it will be applied
If you look at e.g. Virgin Broadband everything is clearly written in nice and understandable way. It warns you at what times FUP will be applied under what circumstances and for how long. Isn't it what we all want to know??
Alex Owen
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Registered: 12/13/09
   Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 24, 2010 9:35 PM   in response to: Mateusz Sokolin... in response to: Mateusz Sokolin...
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@Mateusz I think I maybe a victim of this outragous stint BT have done. I have 2 XBOX 360's running on XBOX Live, 2 Desktop PCs connected to the web constantly, and 3 laptops, we have a torrent sharing running and World Of Warcraft on one of the PCs. All of this is shared across a 6 person family. How can a family where two members goto to college and university do their college ork, download application such as VB.net do their coursework and revise without the hassle of a **** connection. Seriously BT get your ******* head outta your **** and stop this ********, we are customers, we pay for what we are offered. When I signed up several years ago I could download everything on the net woithout infracions on my line being set in motion. You altered my contract without telling me. You will lose custom from this. Also you have ****** my wireless
Edited by: Alex Owen on Jan 24, 2010 9:36 PM
amanda jones
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Registered: 1/8/10
   Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 25, 2010 8:42 PM   in response to: Alex Owen in response to: Alex Owen
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You lot are lucky, We wish we could be capped to 1mbit. Our IP profile is capped to 500kbit because BT say the line isn't good enough for anything more. We are paying for option3 up to 8mbit and BT have said we must continue to pay for it for the remainder of the contract, or buy ourselves out of it early, the reason they give.... Up to 8mbit means up to 8mbit. If you dont get 8mbit then TOUGH LUCK SUCKERS!!
The outcome? We feel like we've been turned over by a dodgey second hand car salesman called BT. The internet deal he flogged us was a dog, a ringer, it wasn't cosher and certainly had a false MOT certificate.
Computer Geek
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   Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 25, 2010 8:49 PM   in response to: amanda jones in response to: amanda jones
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Hi Amanda,
Why have you joined BT Option 3 when you can not get what BT can offer?
No pun intended but you are a bit of a sucker for paying high prices where other suppliers are cheaper and can provide what your line can support.
CG
amanda jones
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   Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
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we moved house last october to this one, the connection was rubbish from the get-go, BT said the router was broken and we needed a new one, we said OK. That "OK" meant that we had entered into a new contract for option 3 same as out old one. The router wasn't broken, the new one didnt fix or improve the problem, we have since asked for a price reduction or compensation and been told "no". we are in contract and can pay to buy ourselves out of it if we like but otherwise we have to pay for option 3 and recieve fixed rate 500kb.
Clare Thurston
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   Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 27, 2010 11:57 AM   in response to: amanda jones in response to: amanda jones
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Hi Amanda,
I think you'll find that the Hold To Term rules have changed. BT are now unable to charge you for the account if you no longer require it. It is against OFCOM's rulings for a company to make more money out of you as a leaving customer than an existing one. However, You will need to pay for the connection charge (if that has not expired it's original differed contract) which is £40. A cancellation fee of £25 if you are simply cancelling and not migrating using a MAC key and for any hardware. The Routers are advertised at £88 and i would suggest that if they believed on to be faulty then that would be replaced under guarantee and not be put on a differed basis. I would check exactly what they say the are charging you and query this through OFCOM. http://www.ofcom.org.uk/

Months of impecable service form BT as an option 3 customer. (I've even recommended BT to people)
but
For the past 2 weeks peak traffic has murdered my connection.
I can get 14mbit off peak, and it used to drop to about 7-9 at peak times.
Now its down to 1-2mbit at peak times. (no i haven't breached FUP as I check my btinternet inbox for the 80GB warning)
I think its resonable to experience drop off but 90%!!!
BT advertising says fast speeds at peak times. less than 2mbit is not fast. (that the governments minimum standard!!!)
I don't know how to procede because when I'm experiencing these issues if I ring up I will end up waiting so long to speak to someone (because its peak time) the concection wiill be better again.
I can think of no recourse other than to approach trading standards...
Guarnetee me 5mbit at peak times (enough to stream HD iplayer) and I'd be happy
That is what BT vision customers are in essence are getting + what ever their PC is using.
Fair usage? what about Fair Supply.

Very slow broadband speeds

Hello
My first post, and I'm hoping that someone will be able to help me with this.
For a few days now, I've been experiencing very slow broadband speeds (100kbps or less), in contrast to the 1.5 - 2Mbps that I would usually expect to get. I've been on hold to BT technical support for some time, and have got through twice, on both occasions being told that this is a widespread issue and to wait until the next day. However, I'm not seeing any improvement. I'm aware of the problems in Edinburgh and the North of England,but I'm in East Anglia.
speedtester.bt.com shows:
Your configured download throughput speed for this service is 135 k
and then:
Two consecutive attempts have failed to initialise an Assured Rate session for your service.Please raise a fault with your service provider stating that the Performance Tester tool indicated a problem with initialising your Assured Rate session. <script type="text/javascript">// paintProgressAndMessageTestBar(-1,""); paintProgressAndMessageOnBar(-1,'An Error has Occured! '); // </script>
My hub stats are:
ADSL line status
Connection information
Line state Connected
Connection time 1 day, 13:59:54
Downstream 1,504 Kbps
Upstream 448 Kbps
ADSL settings
VPI/VCI 0/38
Type PPPoA
Modulation ITU-T G.992.1
Latency type Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up) 15.0 dB / 19.0 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up) 60.0 dB / 31.5 dB
Output power (Down/Up) 16.6 dBm / 11.9 dBm
Loss of Framing (Local) 0
Loss of Signal (Local) 0
Loss of Power (Local) 0
FEC Errors (Down/Up) 4586 / 92
CRC Errors (Down/Up) 297 / 2147480000
HEC Errors (Down/Up) nil / 72
Error Seconds (Local) 221
I hope this is enough information, but I'll happily supply anything else if I can. The uptime of 1.5 days is the time since I was advised to restart / reset to defaults etc.
Thanks for any help.
Deej.

Once a line is stable and working well, it's best left running 24/7
Interventions like resets, replacing accelerators, unplugging the router etc. will cause line "flapping"
And the dslam sees this as instability, and in turn the BRAS lowers the IP profile ....
This is done to achieve stability, and decrease throughput purposefully, all done automatically.
What you have to do, is cure any line noise, plug directly into the master or test socket behind the NTE
faceplate, leave it connected and wait for the throughput to increase.
Very often a rock bottom IP may need a kick to get it out of the doldrums.
Eventually the noise margin will decrease, sync will increase, and IP profile go up.
Depending on how long the line has suffered impulse noise, will determine the time for SNR to come down.
Regardless of which type of phone you used to test quietline ... hum or crackle is a no-no.
It may be the cause of the problems. It could be REIN on the network portion of the connection or dslam
crosstalk, either way it needs to be reported as line noise before you can count it out of the equation.

VERY slow broadband speeds (0.76mbps) Phoneline?

VERY slow broadband speeds (0.76mbps)
Options
on 28-10-2012 12h38
ROUTER STATISTICS
System Up Time: 0:08:24
Port Status TxPkts RxPkts Collisions Tx B/s Rx B/s Up TimeWANLANWLAN
MER
2351
2177
0
136
104
0:00:56
324
0
0
0
0
0:08:24
6762
6743
0
164
132
0:07:57
ADSL Link Downstream UpstreamConnection SpeedLine AttenuationNoise Margin
766 kbps
414 kbps
48.5 db
27.1 db
15.7 db
16.3 db
I'm with Sky, and have had very slow broadband for a while now. Above are the statistics from the test socket. Sky seem to think there is a problem with the line. I've now plugged the router into the main socket.
Any help would be appreciated.
**EDIT** My phone line is with BT, my broadband is with Sky. The problem Sky says is with the phone line it seems.

Hi Joe,
Try sticking your telephone number into this line tester page and let us know if it finds a fault. If it comes back clear, you'll need to go back to Sky as there'll be no issues with your telephone line. If it comes back with a line fault, we can get it progressed towards a fix
Dean
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Incredibly Slow broadband Speed

Hi, I'm servering from a Incredibly Slow broadband Speed and can't nail the reason why.
The broadband for my street was down for a whole weekend although box said connection was ok - helpline was no help - just said try again tomorrow. Now we have internet but the speed is very very slow - speed test results are :
Download = 53 kps
acceptable range = 100-250 kps
DSL Connection Rate 486 Kps (Down-Stream), 712 kps(Up-Stream)
IP Profile for line = 135 kps
Upload = 541 Kps
Addition Hub Info:
Noise Margin (Down/Up) = 8.5 dB / 6.7 dB
Line Attenuation (Down/Up) = 63.8 dB / 35.8 dB
Output power (Down/Up) = 1.3 dBm / 1.1dBm
Prior to loss of service, my speeds although weren't great were about 1.2 Mps
I've tried all the suggestions like changing channels, filters etc and nothings change in my house since the degrading of service.
Can someone please help !
Best regards

I don't know if this will help, but I do notice that your output power is only 1.3dBm / 1.1dBm. can I ask you to look on the back of your home Hub and check to see if it is a Type A or Type B, this will be on the label in the bottom right corner. If it is a type B Hub then ring and ask for a Type A Hub as I have found that I get a better output power reading of around 16.0dBm. When I was sent out a relacement Hub when mine went wrong they sent out a Type B and my speed went very slow, so I put the original Type A Hub back on to see if it made a differance and my speed increased and my IP Profile went up. So if this is the case, ring up tech support and don't ask tell them that you wont a Type A replacement Hub. All the best in your efforts and don't forget that the more you insist the more you can achieve.

Very slow broadband speed following line fault

Having recently had a noisy line fault repaired I have been left with broadband that is running at a very slow speed. Having read several other posts on this forum it seems that my IP profile needs resetting in the local exchange. I am reluctant to try to explain my problem to someone in India (because I can envisage a rather lengthy call which could possibly be to no avail) so can anybody tell me if there is an alternative way to reset my IP profile.
BT's speed test results were as follows:
Download speed: 680Kbs
DSL connection rate: 2464Kbs (downstream) 448Kbs (upstream)
IP Profile: 750Kbs
Any help would be useful,
Jim
Solved!
Go to Solution.

Soulvache wrote:
reme8488 wrote:
You have 2 choices -
1: wait the 3 - 5 days and see if your profile resets (providing you have a stable connection for the period and leave your modem on 24/7)
or
2: contact the moderators here to see if they can be of help.
I think you'll be stuck with the former though.
Tom,
As I have posted above, we have not even seen Jim's line stats. This would make it impossible to try and establish what is actually occurring with the line and connection.
I thought about that straight after posting (actually meant to put that bit in my op ) and then spotted your post when I was going to edit my own. Was too quick on the keyboard there after watching a rather entertaining Fullham vs Chelsea match on my lappy.
Kind regards... Tom
BT Infinity2:

Very slow connection after phone line repair

I had my phone line repaired yesterday with new cabling and new BT box for phone and computer.My phone is fine, but the hub for my broadband does not appear to be ok. the phone symbol on the hub did not light up at all this morning, and after restarting the hub and going back to default settings it is now glowing orange only. It was ok yesterday after being fixed. Very slow connection now. Should i keep everything on to see if it will right itself, or re-start yet again?
I have been looking on BT's options for fixing but can't seem to find anything. the connections in my area are fine so it can't be an outside fault

Which home hub do you have? Did you recently re-contract or change your package, as that will affect your hub phone.
As for the speed issue, it should get better if you leave it alone.
See Why has my speed dropped
There are some useful help pages here, for BT Broadband customers only, on my personal website.
BT Broadband customers - help with broadband, WiFi, networking, e-mail and phones.

Broadband speed drop since line fault repair

We have recently had a phone line fault fixed but after more than 3 days the broadband speed has been lower than it was during the fault and less than half its original speed.
Pre-line issue downstream was around the 16,500kbps with some drops down to 13,000kbps. The line developed a fault which started causing dc's and the phone line became noise with constant cracking and rustling sounds which turned out to be a damage connector causing water to corrode the cables, during that time when active broadband speeds dropped but while connected gave 9726kbps download and 888kbps upload, the phone line was fixed on friday the 15th of January and the phone line itself is very quiet, better than its been in maybe years, no noise that i can hear at all. However the connection dropped out during the night after the line was fixed and came back at 6652kbps down and 440kbps up, it remained at this speed for atleast 3 days then the router reconnected at 6652kbps down with 888kbps up were it remained until this morning, the router reconnected again at exactly the same speed.
I can understand it dropping originally due to the fault but has had over 72hrs connected but the speed has not increased, infact the speed is slower than with the fault which makes very little sense but i suspect is something to do with the noise margin, I include router and btw reports. Hopefully I can get some help with this.
Thanks
Jon
HomeHub2 Connection info
ADSL line status
Connection information
Line state
Connected
Connection time
0 days, 2:59:42
Downstream
6,652 Kbps
Upstream
888 Kbps
ADSL settings
VPI/VCI
0/38
Type
PPPoA
Modulation
ITU-T G.992.5
Latency type
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up)
11.8 dB / 12.8 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up)
27.0 dB / 13.6 dB
Output power (Down/Up)
0.0 dBm / 12.8 dBm
Loss of Framing (Local)
0
Loss of Signal (Local)
0
Loss of Power (Local)
0
FEC Errors (Down/Up)
1678 / 4294967264
CRC Errors (Down/Up)
0 / N/A
HEC Errors (Down/Up)
N/A / 0
Error Seconds (Local)
0
Results from btw preformance test
Download speedachieved during the test was - 5.85 Mbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 2 Mbps-7.15 Mbps.
IP Profile for your line is - 5.87 Mbps Upload speed achieved during the test was - 0.71Mbps
Additional Information:
Upstream Rate IP profile on your line is - 0.83 Mbps
Solved!
Go to Solution.

Great just shy of 3days connected I appear to have had another sync on the line, still no change to downloadspeed but yet again an upload speed increase, Obviously the exchange is trying to resync but it seems my download speed is stuck. This was the 1 and only connection change, should have posted the stats las tnight to show 2days 12+hrs before I went to bed
ADSL line status
Connection information
Line state
Connected
Connection time
0 days, 3:50:34
Downstream
6,652 Kbps
Upstream
1,132 Kbps
ADSL settings
VPI/VCI
0/38
Type
PPPoA
Modulation
ITU-T G.992.5
Latency type
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up)
11.9 dB / 5.8 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up)
27.0 dB / 13.6 dB
Output power (Down/Up)
0.0 dBm / 12.5 dBm

Loss of broadband speed after line fault

We have just experienced another of our all too frequent faults on the telephone line. This has now been fixed (OpenReach repaired a couple of joints in our line) or, at least the crackling that was on the line is no longer detectable using quiet line test.
The broadband speed is now at a crawl - see summary router stats below. (router is a NetGear DGND3300). Until the problems downstream speed was about 12Mbit and upstream 0.6Mb ; noise margin was around 6db.
When we have had problems in the past the speed has always recovered within a few hours, on this occasion the speed, noise margin and attenuation haven't budged for 24+ hours. A few questions:-
1. I know that one is advised to wait up to 3 days, but should I expect a gradual improvement over this time or might it suddenly get better? (or have we still got a fault?)
2. Our exchange has been upgraded to ADSL2 since the last time we've had a fault; could this effect the way the line recovers (or not as the case may be!)?
3. The modem is not connected to the master socket at the moment. Although I doubt if this is the source of the problem; I'm tempted to do this. However this would entail disconnecting it - would the 3 day period start all over again?!
System Up Time 24:13:13
ADSL Link
Downstream
Upstream
Connection Speed
283 kbps
440 kbps
Line Attenuation
28.5 db
12.7 db
Noise Margin
26.3 db
22.4 db

Connection has now been up constantly, connected to the test socket for 4+ days and performance hasn't changed (see modem stats below)
What do I do next?
System Up Time 96:12:01
ADSL Link
Downstream
Upstream
Connection Speed
283 kbps
444 kbps
Line Attenuation
28.5 db
12.6 db
Noise Margin
26.1 db
22.5 db

Slow broadband speed after noisy line repaired

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