Slow Importing & Exporting in Aperture 2.1

I'm importing RAW images as well as JPEGs, and I'm finding that when I import, view, and export untouched images, everything seems to moved smoothly. However, when I do any touch up, suddenly, the tools get jerky, and the large RAW files take at least a minute each to export at full JPEG size. It's been like this for a while, but I don't remember Aperture always acting so sluggish. I dumped the preference file and also rebuilt the Aperture library. Is this normal behavior? I've done lots of searching on this forum, but haven't found any post that seems to come up with an answer.
Thanks,
Bill Nealey

The RAW files I'm working with average about 15 MB each, but few are near 20 MB. Most of them are about 10 MB. However, the JPEGs are 5 MB, and even with them, certain functions are sluggish. The slider bars usually work fine. The magnifying glass is very sluggish, even with the smaller JPEGs that have been altered in any way.
I did rebuild the project library, and trashed the Aperture preference file. Some functions did improve, but the import and the export are the biggest problem, especially the export. It takes 1 or 2 minutes to export a touched up RAW file, no matter what JPEG size I'm exporting into.
Exporting an untouched RAW file takes 10 seconds. The JPEGs export quicker.
I was working on my father's iMac today using his version of Aperture 1.5.1, and it was much speedier than mine. He's running 10.4.9 system.
I checked out the link you provided, but I'm not finding the answer I need. Maybe I should go back to my 1.5 version of Aperture.
Very frustrating,
Bill

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