Slow or no thumbnail generation

Hi
I am having a problem with the generation of thumbnails in my project window in Premiere Pro. When i hold the cursor over the thumbnail area the thumbnail shows (se screenshot). This is a large project with 40hours of material, and a about 200 large still images. Do you have any ideas of how to solve this problem?
Version PP: 6.0.1
Source footage: MPEG-4 AVCHD (1080/25p - Sony FS100)
Version mac: OS x 10.8
Model Name:     Mac Pro Mid 2010
Processor Name:     Quad-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed:     2.4 GHz
Number Of Processors:     2
Total Number Of Cores:     8
Memory: 20 GB
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce 570 GTX
Third-party I/O: Matrox MXO2 with Max
Mercury Playback Engine: Harware mode
Project storage: LaCie 4big Quadra 12TB - eSATA
Raid setup: Raid 5

Please, anyone?

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