Slow power on b4 seeing MSI logo (MSI Z87-G43 GAMING)

My question is, why it takes up to 10 seconds to power on before seeing the MSI logo.
My rig boots in Windows 8.1 Pro UEFI mode with RAID, see summary of rig below.
When booting it sometimes takes up to 10 seconds for the MSI screen to appear, the one with the MSI logo. Once the MSI logo appears the boot is fast, usually between 6 to 8 seconds.
Total boot time around 16 seconds
Please help thanks
System Summary
BIOS version
A.40
Operating System
Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core i3 4130 @ 3.40GHz 32 °C
Haswell 22nm Technology
RAM
8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 800MHz (9-9-9-27) SPD Ext. XMP
Motherboard
MSI Z87-G43 GAMING (MS-7816) (SOCKET 0) 35 °C
Graphics
227ELH (1920x1080@60Hz)
Intel HD Graphics 4400 (MSI)
Storage
119GB M4-CT128M4SSD2 (SSD) OS installed on this drive
465GB Intel Raid 0 Volume (HDD)
465GB Intel Raid 1 Volume (HDD)
Optical Drives
ASUS DRW-24D3ST
Audio
Realtek High Definition Audio
PSU
Thermaltake Smart SE 530W
Other useful info:
BIOS settings
Windows 8 fast boot enabled with GOP, no secureboot
Fast memory boot enabled, I think this just means that it is skipping tests
IGP set to 1024mb dedicated video memory and 800mb shared
All drivers and windows updates are up to date

Yes, nothing suspicious there, everything loads perfectly. See result below.
From the moment this is displayed, it takes just 6 seconds for Windows to be functional. However, it takes around 10 seconds before this appears on the display.
To be clear, or at least for me to be clear, what you see in the screenshot is the BOOT and not the POST, during the actual POST (power on self-test), the user should not see anything on the display.
Is that correct or have I got it wrong.
BOOT
E7816IMS V10.4 02/21/2014
Intel(R) Core(TM) I3-4130 CPU @ 3.40GHz, Speed: 100.00x34=3,4003400.00 MHz
DRAM Frequency for DDR3 1600 MHz(Dual Channel)
DRAM Size is 8192 MB
Use Device total: 1 KBDs, 1 MICE, 0 MASS, 2 HUBs
Detected ATA/ATAPI Devices...
SATA Port1: M4-CT128M4SSD2
SATA Port2: DRW-24D3ST
SATA Port3: Hitachi HTS725032A9A364
SATA Port4: ST9250315AS
SATA Port5: Hitachi HTS721050CLA362
SATA Port6: Hitachi HTS721050CLA362
A2

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