Slow render problem

I have a question. I have a 2.33 Intel Duo Core IMac with 3 GB of ram. I have a 42 minute video to render. Should it take 12 hours to render ? If so, this is really going to slow down my process because I have 3 videos to render and need to do other work as well besides just sitting waiting on a day and a half of rendering.

What?! You're working in mpeg4, on the timeline? And using your internal system drive as your main scratch disc??
Just to check, you don't mean that you're exporting to mpeg4? You're working with mpeg4 on the timeline? why?
you are aware that mpeg4 is a deleivery format?

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Has CS6 fixed the PPro with AE dynamic links slow to render problems?

I've got PPro with AE dynamic links slow to render problems similar to those discussed in this thread:
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/904652?start=0&tstart=0
As I understand it (and I could well be wrong), if I render a PPro project that has AE projects dynamically linked in (anything from simple lower thirds to color grading), during rendering the AE bits run as a service, which limits the AE bits to a single CPU and effectively stops simultaneous rendering of multiple frames. This is why I can get very high render times (essentially no parallel processing), and why messing with the number of CPUs allowed for simultaneous frame rendering, or the amount of RAM said CPUs can access, has little to no effect on total render time.
Supposedly as some point AE was going to be changed such that it used Media Encoder to do it's rendering (same as PPro does), thus speeding up rendering for any PPro project that has AE parts dynamically linked in.
Has this been done in CS6? If not, any idea when that's scheduled to happen?

Jim Simon wrote:
(I do wish Adobe staff would keep this distinction mind when creating their videos. When I saw one about the new background rendering in PP, I was interested, only to learn that he was actually talking about background exporting, a feature PP has had since AME was introduced in CS4.)
The distinction is not so distinct, and this is an industry issue, not really Adobe. After Effects has a render queue, which is used for exporting, but you can also export. Lightwave has this, even Avid. The terms do have their own distinct meanings, but of course context is usually required. So usually "rendering previews" or "rendering final output" serve as context-sensitive uses of the term.
Terminology abuse is widespread, even people with video cameras now call themselves "filmmakers" and people who produce films never shown nor intended for a cinema call themselves "cinematographers." ENG video producers are called "photogs" and news photographers are called "photojournalists."
Transcoding, encoding, rendering, exporting....mish-mashed unfortunately, but thankfully most people can figure out what's meant.
Back to the OP - After Effects can be used with Adobe Media Encoder, it's just not the default. You can import any composition into AME from AE and render your encoded export.
As for background rendering....I remember when Pinnacle Liquid was the first to the table with that feature back in 2004 or 2005. It seemed awesome, except that you needed a ton of spare hard drive space and lots of processing to keep the background rendering going...effecitvely your processor was in use 100% of the time. When you weren't scrubbing or playing back, Liquid was rendering previews. Of course, you could use those previews during export but you rarely would have wanted to do so, since it was better quality to reference the original data when compositing the layers and effects to output to a web file, for instance. Then you had to keep cleaning up the preview cache.
I rarely render previews at all, and when I do it's just a small segment at a time, just to get a full look at the final composite. Mercury Playback is usually more than capable of playing back most of my edits the rest of the time.

Issues DNxHD & CC2014. V Slow RENDER and Do I remove CC if 2014 now on system?

My Prem Pro CC suddenly v slow to render and export and exporting OUT OF SYNC (H264 etc)
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2. How can I improve awful and sudden slow render. I have cleared cache in adobe and PC. System WIN 7 - i7 3770 3,4ghz, 14Gb RAM, GeForce GTX 570 card. This must be software issue? Thanks
3. How to export in synce, timeline is in sync. Have exported VID and AUDIO sepearte and re assembled - didnt work. Have deleted render files and exported - didnt work
V frustrating/
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Lorne

CC2014 is a completely separate version And just like in the past old versions are left in place As a fallback option. For your technical isssues with Premiere ask in their forum.
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Weird Slow Connectivity Problem

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If this is a domain/active directory network the issue may lay with the machine account on the domain server.
Create a new user account on the Mac and see if the problem follows when you log in to that account and try to access the SMB share.
If the problem goes away, then you should look at the original user's startup items to see what might be launching at startup or simply move all files to the new user and delete the old account (not the preferred method).
If the problem persists with a second user on the same machine, then I'd take another Mac, boot it to target disk mode (laptop is good for this), using a firewire cable, boot the troublesome mac to the target mac and try to replicate the issue.
If issue persists, this is a network permissions issue on the server, if it goes away it is a local software issue on the Mac and a clean install of the OS may be needed if you can't locate the meddlesome settings/software.

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Hi,
I have serious render problems with Premiere CC. I't wont render at all. Crashes down every time with a window saying occurred serious problem...
The file that i've been working on is heavy with AE direct links and above adjustment track.
Im working station is Mac Pro Mac OSX 9.2.
So I assume having this machine Premiere will run smooth.
But on contrary I cant touch my files because it will crash down.
Can anybody have any suggestions that are not exporting all my AE files as movie clips and reedit the whole video again.
Thanks!

I am on Windows, but have a few saved Mac discussions that may help (or, may not... but free to read)
Mac and Root User http://forums.adobe.com/thread/879931
-and http://forums.adobe.com/thread/940869?tstart=0
Mac & nVidia Driver http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1075592
-and http://www.nvidia.com/object/mac-driver-archive.html
Mac Retina Bug http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1159632
Troubleshooting guide for Mac freeze
http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/global/troubleshoot-system-errors-freezes-mac.html
http://blogs.adobe.com/aftereffects/2011/02/troubleshooting-quicktime-errors-with-after-ef fects.html
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I have been having problems with my MacBook taking a fairly long time before going to sleep. In attempting to fix the problem I have tried repairing permissions, resetting PRAM, Safe Boot mode, cleaning the system with MacJanitor, etc. In some cases the system seem to work better, but eventually the slow sleep problem reappeared.
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I started to track down and remove items manually such as no longer used prefpanes. I found items in the Launch Agents and Launch Daemons directories that shouldn't have been there. I even found an old kernel extension (SideTrack.kext) that was somehow transferred from my old Powerbook to my new MacBook. There were also .plist items hanging around that weren't needed - so I removed them too.
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Im currently working on a (in my opinion) high-end Windows system for video editing. The system is about 2 years old and has cost a fortune in that time. So Im expecting significantly better speed. So heres my problem:
Im working primarly in Premiere Pro and After Effects. All the media I work with are as a video imported Jpeg Sequences. Often I have multiple Sequences (up to 7 or 8) overlayed and tweaked with Dissolves and plugins like Twixtor. I also use the Adobe Dynamic Link from After Effects to Premiere and vice versa. All the footage is currently in 1080p but in future I will want to render 4K. Im aware that a 4K workflow is probably a pain in the *** so Im surely going to edit offline with 1080p. However I cant get any real-time playback with all my sequences. I ALWAYS have to render a preview to watch my edits. I dont know if Im just having too high expectations for my system, but Im kinda sure there has to be an issue for this lack of performance. Maybe the Dynamic Link is slowing my system down?
System Specs:
Model : HP Z400 Workstation 103C_53335X
Mainboard : HP 0B4Ch
System BIOS : HP 786G3 v03.15 10/29/2010
RAM : 12GB ECC DIMM DDR3
Processor : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           W3530 @ 2.80GHz (4C 3GHz/3GHz, 2.13GHz IMC, 4x 256kB L2, 8MB L3)
Chipset:
     HP X58 I/O Hub 2x 2.4GHz (4.79GHz)
     HP Core Desktop (Bloomfield) UnCore 2x 2.4GHz (4.79GHz), 3x 4GB ECC DIMM DDR3 1GHz 192-bit
Graphic card : NVIDIA Quadro 4000 (8CU 256SP SM5.0 950MHz, 512kB L2, 2GB 2.81GHz 256-bit, PCIe 2.00 x16)
Harddisks:
      4x WDC WD2002FAEX-007BA0 (1TB, RAID10/SATA600, SCSI-4, 3.5", 7200rpm) : 932GB (C:)
     Intel Raid 1 Volume (4TB, RAID, SCSI-4) : 4TB (D:)
     HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH10LS30 (SATA150, BD-RE, DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 4MB Cache) : k.A. (E:)
Thank you very much in advance for your help and I apologize for any grammatical mistakes since english is not my main language.

Valentin,
I have always called a raid10 a solution for the paranoid in a hurry. It takes 4 drives to give you the capacity and performance of two disks, but gives you security by the mirroring.
Before going into your specific situation, allow me to tell something about volumes and drives, because they can be confusing and at the same time they are very important for optimal performance of a system.
Single disk, not partitioned is 1 disk = 1 volume to the OS
Single disk, partitioned is 1 disk = multiple volumes (not a good idea BTW)
Multiple disks in one raid array is Many disks = 1 volume
Multiple disks in one raid array with partitions is Many disks = multiple volumes (not a good idea either)
Each volume has a distinct drive letter for access.
Partitioning is a thing of the past and should not be used at all on modern systems.
You have to think about volumes more than about number of disks. In my current system I have 27 different physical disks but only 4 volumes. In the old one I have 17 disks and 5 volumes.
Now that we are clear what we are talking about, volumes with distinct drive letters, we can address your situation.
You have TWO volumes, C: (single disk) and D: (4 disks in raid10). Spreading the load across two volumes is more demanding and gives slower performance than using more volume, unless one or more volumes are very fast, as I tried to explain in a previous reply (remember Isenfluh/Sulwald?). If you add a SSD as you intend, you have increased the number of volumes to 3, which will definitely help performance, because SSD's are faster than conventional disks, the pagefile can be stored on the SSD, so all your performance will go up.
Compare your setup with mine with rough estimated figures:
Volume
Valentin
Harm
Transfer rate Valentin
Tranfer rate Harm
C:
1 HDD
1 SSD
125 MB/s
450 MB/s
D:
4x Raid10
1 SSD
250 MB/s
450 MB/s
E:
NA
21x Raid30
NA
2,700 MB/s
F:
NA
1 HDD
NA
150 MB/s
These figures are indicative, but do show where the major differences are. In my experience disk setup is overlooked quite often, but has a huge impact on a system's responsiveness. It is the weakest (slowest) link in the chain, afterall and with your workflow, doubly so.
But in your specific case there is something else, and that is your disappointing hardware MPE score. 100 seconds is extremely slow, even for a Quadro 4000. I would be quite normal to see a score around 8 - 9 seconds on such a system, well maybe around 12 - 13 seconds with your ECC memory, but 100 is way too slow. Some background services or processes are interfering with the hand-over from memory-GPU-VRAM-GPU-memory. This can be caused by a myriad of things, but a good starting point would be the BlackViper list of services to set to manual or disabled and taking a closer look at the processes running with Process Explorer. There should normally be less than 50 processes running.
Hope this helps.

Render problems and fed up with after effects

Hi all,
I'm I the middle of trying to do a very simple pan and scan corporate video, the crux being its in stereoscopic 3D. First I've tried using cineform plug ins and have had numerous problems and basically don't think highly of their product. Since after effects has plug ins for stereoscopic I've moved to try and use them. All seems to be going alright for most of the footage. But I'm have some issues with a very import pant part of one video.
My set up
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12GB of ram
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After Effects CS5.5 (10.5.0.253)
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100GB free on 3TB external drive 2
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Layer 2- comp. stereoscopic 3D. Made from using a camera and Create Stereo 3D Rig. It's a mask of the earth in space. 1:46:00
Layer 3- animation with alpha clip. Opactiy keyframed same as layer 1. Clip aniamtionwas done in the original comp. TC in 1:25:09, out 1:45:10.
Layer 4- animation with alpha clip. Opacity key framed same as layer 1. Clip aniamtionwas done in the original comp.TC in 1:03:2,' out 1:16:10.
Layer 5- animation with alpha clip. Opacity key framed same as layer 1. Clip aniamtionwas done in the original comp.TC in 31:12, out 48:11.
Layer 6- animation with alpha clip. Opacity key framed same as layer 1. Clip aniamtionwas done in the original comp.TC in 6:06, out 21:14.
Layer 7- animation codec clip. 1:46:00 duration.
Now when I attempt to render this out to a ProRes 422 file so that I can join it up with the other footage in Primeire Pro, I basically sit around for 2 hours and then I get a nice little dialog box stating "an output module failed. The file may be damaged or corrupted. (-1610153464).
This is maddening to say the least.
Other issues
After Effects basically is Pathetically slow in rendering out a ProRes or Animation or any type of mov file. A simple 30sec clip takes 1 hour 47 minutes. All the clip contains is a tiff left eye and right eye and the 3D glasses plug in. That's it. I know my system isn't the biggest out there (I bought what I could afford). But these render times are ludicrous. If I turn of the multiprocessing it doesn't help. I have the openGL turned on. That doesn't seems to do anything. I have it set up to use 10Gb of ram, yet the system says I'm only using 37% of my ram, none of my processors and I have no idea about the graphics card. Am I totally missing something about how after effects actually does rendering? I'm from the old school of Jaleo and Shake and Nuke. However I set out on my own as a freelancer and I can't really afford Nuke (besides I don't like that it doesn't have a timeline). So I purchased Adobe production premium thinking it can do the job I want, however it seems to act like a spoilt brat software. Yes im ranting had really having thoughts of buyers remorse.
If anyone out there has any advice or thoughts on how to get this to work I'd be more than grateful to hear from you.
Cheers
James

That doesn't seems to do anything. I have it set up to use 10Gb of ram, yet the system says I'm only using 37% of my ram,
AE only takes what it needs, as do any programs with dynamically managed memory. It's not cramming everything into RAM when it doesn't have to.
none of my processors
Secondary processors/ cores will only be used, if you enable the sad excuse that is the "Render multiple Frames simultanuously" feature. As Todd suggested, read that article on "optimum" settings. Just keep in mind that what works well for one project may not work at all for the next one when the balance of footage I/O vs. pixel processing vs. memory consumption changes. You're gonna learn to really hate this...
I have no idea about the graphics card
AE doesn't use it for the most part. Even if you enable all of the hardware acceleration features, AE may turn them off behind your back, one such condition being the use of MP rendering. Can't have both. Conversely, MP rendering might be turned off just the same, if specific effects or features are used. That's also expleianed in teh help. Your only chance of halfway benefiting from hardware acceleration is buying some third-party plug-ins that have their own implementations of OpenGL and CUDA. Still, since you use two different cards i nyour system, that may also be problematic...
Mylenium

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I've been using FCP now for many projects, and this is the first time I have had this problem. I will use slow motion on a clip and render it. But when I play the clip back, it will skip ahead in the clip, and then freeze. For example, people walking down the street. The clip is 3 seconds and I slow it to 6 seconds. As people are walking, about every 5 frames the picture jumps. Then at 4 seconds into the clip it freezes and plays that frame for the remaining 2 seconds. I never had this problem before, and I'm at a loss as to what is wrong. Does anyone have any ideas? I'm almost at the point where I want to just reinstall the whole FCS!

It depends on the formats you import. Are you slowing your footage down -100%? make sure you have constant speed checked. Maybe your time remapping it.

Multiple video tracks and slow render

I have two video tracks. Everytime that I move the video on either track it has to re-render all the affected areas of the movie, but all I need it to do is switch to the highest video track. I don't need it to render at all. I'm sure I never had this problem before. Was this introduced by a newer version of Final Cut or have I introduced a new setting? This version is much slower on my C2D than it ever was on my iMac G3.

Check item properties for your clips and see if they match item properties for the sequence. They should be exactly the same.

Extremely Slow Render Speed - GoPro and Twixtor

Hello!
I am new to the forums, and slightly new to AE, please don't yell at me if there's a similar thread around, I had a look, but nothing really suited my exact case.
I've shot footage on my GoPro Hero 3+ Black, at 720p, 100fps.
I've applied Twixtor to the individual parts required, the rest is at standard speed.
I come across two main problems, one: The live preview is in really terrible quality, and is practically unusable due to its choppiness and blurriness.
Two, being the render time. I tried a two minute video with about 10 seconds worth of slow mo with Twixtor. This took 9 hours to render to AVI. I tried again with WMV, same deal.
I tried an even shorter clip (just straight 5 seconds of slowmo), this was a shorter render time, but still far too long to be practical.
I'm using AE CS6, running Win 8.1, 2.4gHZ i5, 8GB DDR3, and a 2GB GForce Graphics card.
I've tried tweaking the preferences for multiple core utilization etc etc, still no bonus.
Is there something I'm doing wrong, or is it always meant to be this slow?
Cheers,
Dan

Depending on the settings Twixtor can be extremely slow. If you have a lot of rolling shutter artifacts or motion blur in your original video you can also get terrible artifacts. Here's an important thing. MP rendering most likely will not work with Twixtor or any temporal effects so turn it off. The only way to know if your machine is behaving normally is to look at the shot and do some testing. Some shots just require a lot of tweaking to significantly slow down.
If you shot at 100 fps and you want to playback in slow motion then the easiest way, and the best way to start is to go to Footage Interpretation and set the frame rate of your footage to 29.97 or 24 or what ever your deliverable product will be, then drop the footage in a new comp with the same frame rate. No Twixtor required.
Now if you want to slow things down more or speed them up you are working from a much better place and the whole process will be much easier and faster to render. Twitter will also work better.

Slow Rendering Problem

I have been unable to find a solution in the forums for this common problem, so my apologies for raising a novice's question.
I have been absent from working with FCP X for a year now. Previously I worked on ver 10.0.6 with Snow Leopard. In November I had a hard drive failure which was replaced by Apple and the system was upgraded to Lion 10.8.4. On returning now to do some video work, I have upgraded FCP to 10.0.9 but find rendering is now so much slower.
I have tried a simple test with a single clip of video, using the “far far away” title generator.
It seems to have stalled despite leaving it to run overnight. A year ago I had nothing like these problems when I produced a 30min HD video using various title generators..
My system is a 3.06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, Memory 4 GB 1067 Mhz DDR3, Graphics ATI Radeon HD 4670 256 MB with a 21.9 screen (2009).
Have I reached a stage where my system no longer matches the requirements for FCP 10.0.9? Or have I forgotten some parameters that are essential to importing AVCHD HD video?
I’d be grateful for any advice.

I certainly don't disagree that your system is not the ideal for FCPX. And your planned upgrade should make a huge difference in your editing experience.
But an overnight render for a title? To me it seems likely that your drive went into sleep mode, or there is something that isn't right about the set-up.
By way of comparison, we have a 2008 MBP Core 2 Duo with 4 GB RAM and the 2 GPU setup, (Nvidea 9400 and 9600). For video work it's primarily used with FCP7, and it works very well.
We also have FCPX installed. Just for kicks, I tested how long Far & Away took to render; it took under 20 minutes on that woefully under-speced machine.
Best of luck.
Russ

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