Slow renders and exports.

Jello,
I have a standard config, 2x2.8 Ghz Quad-Core Intel Xeon.
It has only 2 GB of RAM.
I am editing HDV 1080p footage for output of the same encoding.
It recently dawned on me that my render and export processes might be significantly expedited by an increase in my RAM.
Yes, no? Why, why not?
Glad to answer any questions, just want to make sure I make the right move.
RAM cheap, but it ain't that cheap.
Out,
-the apple video dude

I have the same Mac Pro with 10GB RAM but I'm also disappointed. I'm rendering VOB files (ie only the audio needs fixing) and it's taking looong. The activity monitor says the processor is only using 9%.
However, when I use MPEG Streamclip for conversions I see that the activity monitor shows how it is using real raw power, unlike FCP.

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Hello,
I switched to Premiere CS6 from FCP 7 after FCPX came out and haven't looked back. In a lot of ways, it's much better for certain tasks.
In others, it's not. Initially playing back "red-lined" content worked fine and i was able to view the edit before I committed to render/export.
Now, I see every 10 frames or so and it skips and stutters. Rendering and exporting times have spiked dramatically over the past month
for some unknown reason. I have a small prod company and we're using Mac Pro's (8-Core) with min of 16GBs of RAM in each.
I know there are 101 factors that go into export time, I'm just wondering if anyone if encountering the same issues.
I just pieced together a 10-min video in FCP7, all ProRes files with minimal cutting and it exported in 2.5 minutes.
The same project on Premiere was telling me 3 hours. I don't get it.
Can anyone shed any light on this?
Thanks
Dan

Rendering times are not decided purely on the length of the video.
The type of effects you have added have more impact.
Also you cannot always trust the estimated time you are given.
Have you let it render for about an hour to see whether the estimate drops dramatically?

HELP: Premiere Pro CC not using all CPU and RAM during rendering and export

Hello,
I am using Premiere Pro CC on a Windows 7. My timeline is quite simple with two videos, one with the movie (mpeg) and the other with the subtitles (avi).
When I render the sequence in PP or export, the rendering time is way too slow and it only uses around 15-20% of the CPU and 3 GB of RAM.
My hardware config is :
- CPU : i7-4770k 3.50Ghz
- RAM : 8 GB
- Disk : 2 x 3 TB SATA (no raid)
RAM is not the bottleneck, neither the disk access.
I have tried rendering and exporting the same project on an iMac (with an i5 2.7 Ghz and 4 GB RAM and only 1 disk) and the result is 4x faster !!!
The CPU usage is close to 100% as well as RAM usage.
So how come PP uses all resources availble on an iMac and not on a Windows 7 ?
Is there any known bug or software bottleneck on Windows 7 ?
My machine is brand new and nothing much installed besides Adobe products.
Any help is very much appreciated.
Thanks,

I just rendered out a a 2 minute sequence with about 100 clips in it and Colorista effects on everything to the Vimeo 1080 H264 preset. It took about 5 minutes to render straight from Premiere, it used all the recourses it could, my CPU was running at near %100, same with my ram and GPU, I was happy.
Then I did another render with Red Giant Denoiser and it now wants to take 30 mins and it is only using about %20 of the recourses available. My problem isn't that its taking longer with Denoiser but that its not using all of my computers CPU and GPU.
Im rendering at maximum render quality and bit dept to H264 (Im happy to wait the extra time), if I try to use VRB 2 it encodes 1 pass at a time and wants to take up to 40 minutes.
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Premiere Pro CC - Playback issues, rendering and export

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Computer: HP Elite Book
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Hello all -
I am trying to edit, render, and export a video for play on YouTube. The source is a Camtasia Studio 8 Screen capture with a 1080P High Defintion PTZ camera that is hooked up to the computer as the "webcam". We recorded the screen, used Camtasia to produce and edit, and saved it as a .MOV
I then transferred the .MOV to my computer and opened Premiere Pro CC. I have been watching a lot of YouTube videos and have a read a lot of threads, so I decided that a simple edit job would be the easiest and fastest. I have attempted this 3 times now, each try has been a failure.
Attempt 1:
Opened a new project. Imported my video. Dropped it into a sequence. Added an opening and closing title card, plus lower third captions to video, and added transitions. Playback was choppy, so I read that it needed to be rendered. I rendered the sequence (it took most of the evening). When I went to play it back, I just got footage that said "Media pending" in 7 different languages.
Attempt 2: I decided not to render, just export. Followed the steps above, but instead of rendering, and exported it. I exported as media file, chose the TechSmith Capture Codec, and .AVI as the format. Let it do it's thing. The result was very fuzzy, plus the audio was about 10 seconds out of sync from the video.
Attempt 3: I didn't get very far here, because when I started playback to check my audio syncing, my computer started flipping between Premiere and my desktop, just swtiching back and forth.
Any help here, suggestions, would be very much appreciated. I need to post this video for work as soon as I can.
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Camtasia http://forums.adobe.com/thread/836800 may help
-and Lagarith Codec http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1287577
-and http://forums.adobe.com/thread/775288
-and http://forums.adobe.com/thread/453044
-and http://forums.adobe.com/message/3202148

General error in FCP re: rendering and export after Quicktime 7.5.5 update

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My FCP 6.0.4 rendering and export to Compressor no longer works after an update to Quicktime 7.5.5.
Rendering fails after a few seconds "General Error!" pops up. Exporting to Compressor, after setting it compressing, Compressor after a few seconds fails. (audio is processed) My current work around is exporting a sequence using Quicktime conversion (time consuming) and then opening in Compressor.
I've done the usual, deleting prefs, new sequences and projects, even saving movs in different codecs.
(been using H.264)
My sequences are all custom sizes but tests using presets also fail.
Any ideas anyone?
And I was so happy the Quicktime upgrade could play sequence movs recorded months earlier that until now I couldn't play properly due to previous Quicktime upgrades!
Apple gives with one hand and takes with the other....

Hi There,
Thanks for your reply on this.
Well basically since I'm using content already in the H.254 codec (eg: a trailer off the internet, or the downsizing of HD footage) i'm just exporting to a codec that didn't have to be rendered and gave quality results. I used motion jpeg B as an export codec because it was quick (although HD space hungry) with no drop in quality. The resulting exports could be imported into a custom sequence (720 x 405) as square pixel aspect ratio files. Overlapping the canvas with other windows (eg: viewer) meant I could play a clip (with dropped frames) but not have to render it. I selected the H.264 codec as the sequence codec because I've found other codecs introduce darkening or lightening or blurring or other undesirable artefacts when exported to Compressor. H.264 used in the sequence settings exported through Compressor would give resulting m2v's as sharp and contrast accurate as the source file.
That was until the recent 7.5.5 Quicktime update where attempts to do the same things I did before result in "General Error!" coming up after a few seconds of play or rendering.
Traditional DV codecs are "blurry" in my opinion, especially when coping with web content or conversion of HD downloads.
If you can suggest an editing codec that works best with FCP that is quick, doesn't introduce blurring or general degrading of the image I'd be happy to try it out. I typically downsize HD content from the web for DVD playback, so it's usually in a H.264 codec already. So i would need a codec for export from Quicktime that would work best with a codec in FCP. That doesn't alter picture quality when compressed to m2v in Compressor.
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Quadro 4000 issues w/ PP CC. Crashes MacPro during rendering and exporting in Encoder.

I'm using a Mac Pro 3,1 early 2008 w/ 2x2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon w/16 GB RAM, Nvidia Quadro 4000 is installed and the factory installed NVidia GeForce 8800 GT for dual monitors. I also have a Blackmagic Design Deckling HD Extreme installed but mainly only use it for the XLR audio outputs to my Mackie Mixer. I'm running Yosemite 10.10.2 and all drivers have been updated.
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Slow processing and exporting

We have been using Aperture 2 for about a year and love it. Upgraded to 3.0.3 recently and find the processing and exporting very slow. We are using the iMac 2.16 GHz, 4GB 667 ..... because of the matt screen it is much nicer for photographic editing. The newer iMac's with glossy screens are horrible because there is a density problem being darker at the top then at the bottom. Also a warm cast at the top and a cold cast at the bottom. This means we don't want to upgrade to the new models with more ram.
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There are something that you can do to optimise the performance of Aperture whilst you are editing and exporting.
Easy ones
1. Turn off faces (when not in use)
2. Turn off create previews (when not in use)
3. Do exports overnight when nothing else is running
4. Run regular system maintenance, DIsk Utility
5. Run regular Aperture first Aid, http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3805
6. Ensure harddrives are no more than 80/90% of capacity
Invest in
7. Have your images and library on dedicated fast drives, connected via a fast interface, (USB2 is not a fast interface).
8. Max the RAM out on your machine
9. If in business, a new machine every three years.
900 images even at 1 min per image, 15 hrs, depending on how many adjustments, what file type you are working from, what file type, size and compression you are exporting to, lots of variables.
I agree though 40hrs something needs improving in your system.
Tony

Progressively slower renders and something else...

First... does anybody know why FCP renders my timeline over again when I "edit to tape"? I'm rendering everything in the timeline just before I put to tape... and my output settings match the timeline settings...
also, the renders seem to slow down at the 10-15% mark... if I stop and start the render again it'll go up to 10-15% in seconds...
No. I'm not rendering the same thing over and over again... and It's mostly motion stuff, with 2,3 sometimes 10 layers of video. I've monitored drive speed, processor usage... everything seems to run fine.
It's a well maintained and stable system.
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First... does anybody know why FCP renders my timeline over again when I "edit to tape"? I'm rendering everything in the timeline just before I put to tape... and my output settings match the timeline settings...< </div>
This has been a weird thing about FCP since v1 or v2. I don't think we have ever gotten a satisfactory answer.
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Rendering and Exporting in Adobe Premiere CS3

Does rendering stops when the computer/laptop locks? And what's the fastest way to render a 13 min movie in Adobe Premiere.. Does Media Encoder help?

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Quick question about rendering and exporting with multiple presets

Probably a very simple question but I'm pretty new to PPro, so I'd appreciate your help...
I've got an uncompressed AVI video that I want to export to mp4 using several presets (that means several exports). What I intend to do is the following:
I create a sequence and put my AVI file in there and then I just apply the preset and without rendering go to export media, select my export setting, and put it in the encoding queue at the Media Encoder. Then on the same sequence, I clear the preset and apply a new one, and again without rendering, go to export and then to the encoding queue. I repeat this for as many times as presets as I want to apply. At the end I have created (in no more than 2-3 minutes) several exports in the Adobe Media Encoder queue, that I can launch and go and do something else while encoding...
My question: will the export files each have the different preset applied even though it was not rendered? if it does not work, would that work if I were to do this with each preset applied on a different sequence, even without rendering?
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I create a sequence and put my AVI file in there and then I just apply the preset.
Then on the same sequence, I clear the preset and apply a new one, and again without rendering, go to export and then to the encoding queue.
Does "apply the preset" mean selecting an encoding preset
before sending the Sequence to the Queue?
If I understand what you are trying to do...
It sounds like you want to do multiple, different format
exports from the same Premiere Sequence.
If so...
I would Queue the Sequence to Media Encoder once from Premiere,
then duplicate the entry in the Queue (Ctrl+D) and assign the
different encode types to the duplicates in Media Encoder,
(instead of Queueing the Sequence multiple times).
...will the export files each have the different preset applied even though it was not rendered?
A Sequence will be encoded using the assigned settings.
You can set multiple encodes in the Queue, each with different settings.
I'm not sure what you mean by "even though it was not rendered...".
Unless you have specified 'Use Preview Files' in your encoding,
it will make no difference if your Sequence is 'Timeline Preview'
rendered or not.

Odd issue with slow motion and exporting

Hello,
I have a project with footage taken at either 24p or 60i settings on a Canon HF200. I'm using 7.0.1, ProRes 422 selected. Frame size is set to 1920x1080. I'm exporting using the "Share" menu and the Apple TV preset.
The project is divided into sequences. One of these sequences (whose source material shot using the 60i setting) is set to play in slow motion using the "change speed" option set to 50%.
Here's the odd part, to me at least:
When I export just the slow motion sequence of the project, it plays perfectly (good quality, smooth not jerky, no shadows/trails). But when I export all sequences joined together, the slow motion sequence (and just the slow motion sequence) appears stuttery, with trails on every action by the actors.
Another odd bit: when I export just a subset of the project including the slow motion sequence and everything after it, again the slow motion sequence plays as intended, after export. So the problem only occurs if I export the slow motion sequence with anything before it included.
Thanks in advance for any help.

Problem solved, but I'm not sure if it was my re-importing the clips, or un-checking the "frame blending" option that did it. I did both for no particular reason, and one of them worked.

FCP5 Renders and exports fine, won't play timeline however.

Hello,
I'm having an odd problem with FCP 5.1.4.
When selecting individual clips in the browser, they play just fine in the viewer. However, when they are dragged into the timeline, they will not play in the viewer. There is no error, I will hear audio, but no video is seen.
I do have it setup as Digital Cinema Desktop Preview Main, and when exporting, the video comes out great, and I can play it with QT.
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#15 White or Black Canvas or Viewer
Shane's Stock Answer #15: White or Black Canvas or Viewer
Make sure the canvas or viewer are selected then go to VIEW>CHANNELS and set it to RGB. It might be set to ALPHA.
OR...
Click on the drop down menu above the Viewer or Canvas and make sure that you are on IMAGE or IMAGE + WIREFRAME.

FCP freezes when rendering and exporting (HD)

2 x 2.66 dual core intel with 1 go 667 DDR2 FB-DIMM, ATY,RadeonX1900
Ok Got this project with green screen (conduit) and a motion template spiral title thing. When I tried to render the whole sequence it would freeze half way there. Then I rendered one cut at a time finally got it to be rendered the I try to save as quicktime movie as is and when it's at 90% its freezes.
Recently I upgraded but didn't do anythigne mush different then usall. Help me got a bunch of other green screen to do.

Read up on setting up 'Virtual Clusters' in compressor. This works extraordinarily well with an 8core Mac Pro.
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Rendering and exporting a QT File

Does it take longer to export an unrendered sequence vs. a rendered sequence?
My client wants his final product in a QT format, so, I thought to speed up the process i would skip the render.

I absolutly agree... it makes much more sense to render a timeline first before exporting. I don't think I've ever exported an unrendered sequence... until yesterday for the little test.
I guess I was imagining the OP having just one timeline to export, as QT movie, not QT conversion... hence the simplicity of my little demo...
He has one long unrendered timeline... does he:
a. render first in FCP then export as QT movie (current settings).
b. export via QT movie (current settings) without rendering.
In this scenario it doesn't seem to make a huge amount of difference... they will both be rendered. It was quicker exporting the unrendered sequence but, it makes sense to render the timeline first though, as you pointed out...
However, the OP did ask for the quickest option... not the smartest option.

Slow rendering and sluggish performance...

just built a new machine for cs3 prod studio. quad core 6850, 4 gig ram, xp sp2, 150 raptor boot, 2 500 wd re2 in raid 0 for data...get the picture, all good stuff. however I'm noticing very long rendering times as well as a slight sluggishness overall in pp cs3. I'm using the onboard raid from my asus p5k as well as the onboard sound. Is that the culprit? One of my other pc's is a qx6800 with same specs however I'm using an areca sata raid card for my data and creative sb x-fi elite for sound. btw I use cineform prospect hd for my editing. now I have a 15min video with very minimal editing, just a few dissolves basically, and it is taking 3 hours to render out the hd avi which takes 10 minutes on the other pc. Also when editing the pc seemed to lag when I performed edits. and when I'd play a clip it would start then the sound cuts out for 5 secs or so then comes back on. So what should I look for 1st? I'm thinking its the onboard raid sucking, but on a brand new install I'm sure there are some tweaks I'm missing. TIA

I started a post titled 'playback lag'. I have exactly the same symptoms you do. Did you find a fix?
My system is running Vista, I was thinking of going back to XP just to solve this issue but I see your running XP.
Is your integrated sound a SoundMAX device?
For some reason I can't find my original post - it looks like it's been deleted?
My original post used to be at
http://forum.adobe.com/webx?13@@.3bc793cc/8
I called Adobe support but they have no idea. I'm not even sure they know what Premiere is.

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