Slow saving in After Effects CC (12.2)

Im using AE version 12.2.0.52
Still have this problem both of my program and scratch drive are very fast SSD... Just cleaned the cache & database folder... Nothing new. Saving time about 60 seconds both manual and auto save. VERY annoying.. Any clue???

Hello,
I have same problem and tested in many rigs and with different projects:
when you move to AECC saving time gets much longer.
The things the tests have in common are:
i) OS (windows 7)
ii) big ram (32+ gb)
iii) nvidia cards
and of course After Effects CC.
frrr

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