Slow time machine back up

I replaced the internal hard drive on my iMac 7,1.  Since doing this my Time Machine backups just crawl.  Every back up starts with a "calculating files" that crawls to 150,000 files then transfers slowly at 1 or 2 kB a minute.  I've reparied both interna and external drives with both Disk frepair and Disk warrior, bought a new 1TB external drive, removed time machine prefs file, excluded backup HD frm Spotlight, and reindexed the internal HD.  This all new since internal HD was replaced.  Any suggestions?

ralphfromseattle wrote:
I don't seem to have AHT on my machine, and I can't find the 2nd DVD (I don't even remember having one).  When the shop replaced my SL OS X 10 it appears they did not install this file.  I wonder if there are any other files that were left out that could be causing this?
It's not part of OSX, and the shop won't have it, as it's tailored for the hardware on your Mac.  Besides being on the Install disc, it was factory-installed in a separate, hidden partition on many internal HDs. Yours, of course, is gone with the old HD.
It's kind of a long shot anyway (this sounds more like OSX).  But if you want, AppleCare can send a replacement for a nominal fee.
Installed both updates you linked to, but this has not helped; still hours to run a backup even when there has been no activity on the iMac.  They seem to have regressed my Safari to 5.0.5 from the most current one.
I don't recall the sequence of updates; assuming the current version of Safari came afer 10.6.8, Software Update should get everything else up to date.
I have not yet done a full reinstall of OS X.  Will this mean I need to restart the TM BU from the start?
I'm not sure what you mean.  TM shouldn't do a full backup, but the next one will be lengthy, as the fresh copy of OSX and the default Apple apps will all be backed-up.

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    getwellroad 
    Level 1 (0 points)
    Jul 6, 2011 9:50 AM 
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    Welcome to Leopard Forums:
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    Message was edited by: nerowolfe

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