Slow write to internal hard drive

The write speeds for my internal hard drive on my iMac are painfully slow (under 1 MB/s) for all kinds of files; whenever I am moving files the entire system would become unresponsive. I did not have this problem when I was running tiger; when I installed leopard it took an unusually long time (5 hrs or so), which I thought was strange but decided not to trouble myself over.
I tried to erase the partition and zero the disk from disk utility on the OS X install CD and it said it would take 24 hours, then disk utility crashed. I tried again from my iBook with the imac as a target disk and the same problem occurred.
I am reinstalling leopard now (having erased but not zeroed the disk) and it says it will take 12 hours (it has already been running for an hour).
The SMART status is "verified" but I think the problem may be the hard drive itself. When the system was running, writing to an external disk was perfectly fast.
Does anyone have any ideas? Firmware update, disk controller software update, etc.? I can't find anyone else with the same problem.

Funny thing is I was suffering the same problem on my 24" iMac for the past month or so.. of course after the first year warranty was expired.
24" iMac, 2.16Ghz C2D, 2Gb Ram, 250Gb WD HDD, 7600GT
OSX was going terribly slow, but kept working and I wasn't sure what the problem was right away. After a watching the Activity Monitor I also noticed the HDD on my iMac was suffering from horrible write speeds.. read was fine but writing.. well the HDD was dying.
I went out this morning and bought myself a new 500Gb Seagate with the 32Mb cache to replace my the trusty Western Digital in the iMac.. came home, busted out the philips screwdriver and Torx-8 opened her up and replaced the drive myself. It took under an hour and was a pretty painless process. Once the new drive was installed I restored from a TimeMachine backup and wham bam she was done!
Anyone with good PC assembly knowledge should be able to replace the drive on their own, just find a guide on the net and follow the instructions. The key is to take your time as its not as simple as removing a panel off a PowerMac or PC and swapping the drive.. there is a lot more patience to it since your dealing with such a confined space and other components. But I took my time and cleaned out the cooling system inside my iMac while I was at it.. overall it turned out okay and i'm happy with the performance upgrade on the drive with the larger cache.
I should note, if your iMac is in warranty or your reluctant to open it up yourself (i don't blame you!) just take your Mac into a authorized repair centre and i am sure they would be happy to help replace the drive for a small fee. I on the other hand prefer to save a few bucks and use the money on buying a better drive, plus it was fun to do!

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    -PCI Display Card "formacGA7" - not attached to any external device, not sure what its intended purpose is.**
    -3 Empty PCI Slots
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    -Microsoft 3 Button Wheel mouse with "IntelliEye" (wheel is 3rd Button) connected to Keyboard USB port (right side).**
    -2 OEM FireWire (400) ports
    -2 OEM USB (1) ports
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    -1 Canon GL1 MiniDV camera, attached either to the other FireWire port, or to the last drive in the chain, depending on my urgency/laziness factor. BTW, FCP 3 has worked flawlessly controlling this Cam for logging and Batch Capturing.
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    -Software Install, OS 10.0.4, CD vers 1
    -Software Restore, OS 9.2 & 10.0.4 CDs vers 1, Discs 1-4 of 4.
    -OEM Apple Hardware Test; Power Mac G4, SW vers 1.2.1
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    -Toast Titanium 5.0.2
    Applications on system Hard Drive I use if my wife is busy on our Windows XP machine:
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    -Microsoft Word & Excel
    # of other Applications on System Hard Drive I either don't use or may be integral to the system: 260
    # of Control Panels:
    -Enabled: 34
    -Disabled: 0
    # of Extensions:
    -Enabled: 174
    -Disabled: 0
    note: a number of the applications and extensions are for AOL, Quickbooks, Microsoft Money and the like, as well as other things I don't use (Airport, USB printers, Networking, etc.)
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    -Bought a copy of MacDrive so I can see what's on my External Drives on the XP machine.
    -Printed out System Profile before I installed upgrades.
    -Thoroughly searched this discussion board for and gathered as much info as I could before upgrading.
    Dumb things I did:
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    -Never ran any sort of Disk Maintenance, even after one of the Externals crashed (DiskWarrior saved my butt on that).
    -Ignored some of the advice on this discussion board.
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    RECENT UPGRADES:
    Here's what I did, and how I did it:
    Turned off system, disconnected all External FireWire Devices, disconnected Monitor, opened case, touched various metal parts of case and power supply to discharge any Static, unplugged power cable.
    -Installed 2 512MB sticks of "Lifetime" PC 133 SDRAM; total System RAM is now 1.5GB, all 3 DIMM slots now occupied.
    -Installed 1 Maxtor "DiamondMax" Ultra ATA/133 100GB Hard Drive (8 MB buffer) as "Slave" (no jumper) in top of U-Carrier above System Hard Drive; attached to middle of original Apple ribbon cable, attached available power plug.
    Taped spare jumper to inside of empty drive bay, noting origin and date. Did NOT push PMU button. Carefully closed case. Reconnected Monitor, did NOT reconnect any FireWire devices. Powered System on, but did NOT perform PRAM reset.
    I don't remember the exact order of what happened next, but I think: System booted up normally, a window popped up saying a new drive had been found, would I like to intitialize it?, which I did as Mac OS extended, and then named. If I was instructed to restart, I did so, otherwise did not. Clicked on "about this Mac" and saw that it now showed 1.5GB RAM. I then went about moving Media/Render files off the System drive (and one of the Externals) onto the Internal Drive, with a combination of FCP's Media Manager, and dragging from the Finder. After files had copied, dragged Media/Render files from System Drive to Trash. Opened FCP project, had FCP re-link to new locations of missing files. Saved, closed, and re-opened project, set Capture/Scratch disc to new internal Drive. At some point I changed FCP's Memory Allocation from whatever it was to 512000KB Minimum, and 900000KB Prefered (and I hope I got all those zeroes right). Did NOT restart after changing Memory Allocation, unless a window popped up instructing me to do so, in which case I did. Re-opened my project, rendered a few thing at a noticeably increased speed, saved everything, emptied the Trash, shut everything down, and called it a night as it was 4:30 am.
    A few hours later, I plugged the MiniDV and an External Drive into the FW ports and powered up the System. It was behaving extremely sluggishly. I would click on something, the pointer would turn into a wristwatch (sometimes with the minute-hand moving, sometimes not) and like an actual minute later, what I'd clicked on would open. All three drives were on the desktop, still had their files, and "About this Mac" still showed 1.5GB total Memory. So I powered down, disconnected the FW devices, waited a bit, and powered back up. Same sluggish response. I tried to open my FCP project file, and instead got a Window that said something to the effect of "The Application associated with this document could not be found". I think I tried to open FCP from the Applications folder on the System Drive and got the same message (I'd only had 3 hours sleep, no coffee, my client had died, and his family was coming for whatever I had in a few hours).
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    Panic had set in, which never solves anything, so I don't remember what order I performed which tasks, between searching for clues in this forum, and convincing myself that that would be faster than trying to compose a question, waiting for a response, etc.
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    I tried booting from Disc 1 of the Software Restore Disk, which only wanted to destroy my data.
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    I think at this point I decided that I must have too many extensions, and started disabling ones I thought irrelevent to my cause (mostly anything that said "AOL", "Airport", "Ethernet", "Printer", "Modem", "Speakable", and a couple things called "Open TPT".
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    That certainly didn't help anything (though upon restarting from the OS 9.2 Disc I was able to see the extensions and control panels in their respective "Disabled" folders in the System Folder). But I still wasn't able to get more Memory to Finder.
    So, I decided a few more PRAM resets might help, which succeeded in making both Internal Hard Drives disappear. I tried booting up from the DiskWarrior disc, but even the Mighty DiskWarrior couldn't find the drives. I performed the longer, in depth version of the Apple Hardware Tools tests, which reported that everything's fine (including the new RAM), but made no mention of the Hard Drives at all. The deadline having long passed, I shut the system down. I read through more posts and tech articles, etc.
    I searched my External drives with MacDrive on my XP, and found the drive that has the copy of my System Folder (which shows all extensions and control panels as enabled); not sure if the Quicksilver will boot from that, I don't know what the Keyboard command for booting from a FireWire drive is (if there is one) and the drive itself only has 900MB of free space.
    I can't find any reference to Internal ATA drives anywhere in the MacDrive documentation; if it was possible I'd put them into the XP, get the files off the Mac drives, reformat them and install OS9 from the Discs.
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    Thank you all so much for your patience in perusing and pursuing this.
    Sincerely,
    Patterson
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    Thank you Rodney and John,
    The jumpers are correct for both Maxtor Drives.
    Rodney, you are correct in that the initial problem (slow rendering/"out of Memory" crashes) was caused by my not realizing I'd stupidly captured several GBs of media to my system drive, and not checking which drives those files were on (as I'd assumed I'd put them on one of my external media drives) once that problem presented itself.
    Before I'd determined what I'd done, I bought the extra RAM. After I'd found the media files on the System Drive, and saw that my dedicated media drives were too full to easily move them, I decided to buy an additional Internal drive so that I could:
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