Sluggish pattern brush performance in PS CS5

Hi,
I'm having some performance problems with pattern brushes in Photoshop CS5. It seems like just about any pattern besides the plain circular ones lag behind my cursor when drawing quickly. A couple of especially bad ones are Round Angle and Round Fan brushes.
I'm running Windows 7 64-bit. I have plenty of RAM, and my CPU is a Core 2 Duo E6600. I wouldn't think PS brushes should choke on this system, so what else could be wrong? I've tried tweaking the OpenGL rendering settings but that didn't help at all. Someone also suggested uninstalling my tablet drivers, but that didn't do anything. I also tried the 32-bit version of Photoshop, but no luck. Any ideas?

To say it more precisely, If you get the performance hit when you use larger window and it gets faster on smaller window it is mostly the video card but if you get the performance hit when you increase the resolution and gets faster on low resolution images it is the processor. Other than that it also depends on how streamlined is your whole system is. If you have a lot of processes and background activities running all the time obviously they will affect the overall performance. Also If you work with very large images that require frequent access to the scratch disks, the performance of your hard drive may affect the speed too.

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State version of Illustrator.
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In Illustrator there was a long-awaited my new feature. Brushes with rater images - WoW!
Thank you very much.
I learned this and practice what quenches my "wow" ...
I have problems that I can not understand, I will be grateful for the practical help.
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Example Adobe does not explain the problem, but raves (very good) features art Brush with img.
http://helpx.adobe.com/illustrator/using/whats-new.html
http://tv.adobe.com/watch/learn-illustrator-cc/using-images-in-brushes/
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The example on the left clearly shows the alignment that I want to correct.
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Thanks all.
scott w:
Sigh, I forgot all about it needing to fit inside of a rectangle.
I looked at some of my old patterns
and remembered that I was making the lines with the rectangle tool instead of the pen tool,
so that the pattern's "lines" could be aligned to the inside of grid lines.
Using this method doesn't seem to produced any alignment gaps.
Now that you have introduced the idea of using a defining rectangle,
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and the other using a defining rectangle and the pen tool for the lines.
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Rectangle tool method result:
As you can seen it slightly expands the rectangles, thereby eliminating the gap.
However, these "lines" don't look as clean as the alternative method.
Defining rectangle (invisible) / Pen tool:
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but this produces a slight misalignment, which only the nuttiest of nit-pickers would even notice:
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> Never send editable native AI files for someone downstream to edit unless they assume responsibility for any errors.
To elaboate: If there are errors in your file, you need to not only know about them, but you need to know how to correct them and how to avoid them in the future. Therefore, corrections should be made by you.
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Errors are inevitable. When disputes arise, the question invariably comes down to "who's error is it?" Work toward the day when you can confidently disallow anyone to modify your native files downstream. Correcting your own mistakes is the only way you will learn to avoid them.
Seek relationships with responsible and respected local output houses. A good printing house may not have time to give you free coaching on every project, but many are more than willing to help you understand their processes to help streamline workflows in future work you may bring them. Find one printer like that and most of the real-world knowledge you gain there will apply to other printing houses, too (even less friendly ones).
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Hi Members,
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JET

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JET

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Freduardo19 wrote:
I am wondering if anyone can help me figure out how to create a custom pattern brush which has an inside stroke by default.
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http://forums.adobe.com/thread/457705
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http://forums.adobe.com/thread/317724
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