Small campus network design

We have a new building about 300 meters from our main data center. 8 catalyst 4500 series switches will be installed for access layer. We are running a Nexus 7k on our data center, with a user VDC that we plan to connect these access layer switches. I plan to use two of eight
switches as the distribution/access layer switches (I plan to run two to four fiber from the Data center to these two switches and distribute the connection to the rest of the switches). Is what I am planning to do going to be practical? Please advice me the best approach/options to connect this small campus.

If you have enough fiber (2x8=16 pairs) between the data center and the campus, you can directly run all the access switches to the 7k and no need for distribution switches.
Also you said, you have one 7k. For redundancy you really need 2 7ks.
As for VDC, if this is all for the same organization, there is no need to connect the access switches to a different VDC.  If you do connect them to a different VDC and the users need to talk to data center you would need to run a physical cable between the data center VDC and the Campus VDC which defeat  the purpose.
HTH

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    Or the routing overhead is less if the Core is operating on L2?
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    Access layer L2 switches connects to Dist.
    So Access layer SW's do Diffserv marking, Dist layer switches do queuing, the inter vlan routing as well as routing and the core only forwards traffic based on L2.
    Is it a valid design? Should the core also have QoS?
    Thanks!

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    Yes, you can have a L2 core, but as Rick has noted, modern designs lean toward L3 cores.
    There are, even today, pros and cons to each, but the biggest factor would be a modern L3 core would normally use L3 switches, rather than traditional routers.  Generally you want the core to move packets as quickly as possible, and L2 switches were generally better at that than "traditional" routers.  L3 switches, though, have nearly L2 switch performance, so the performance difference isn't much of issue any longer (especially with CEF L3 switches and/or MPLS).
    BTW, not something you'll see in many current design documents, but modern L3 switches are so powerful and support so many ports, that you might have distribution and access just L2.
    If you're doing QoS, yes I would recommend it also be enabled in the core too, L2 or L3.

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    Welcome to the Cisco® Support Community Ask the Expert conversation.  This is an opportunity to learn and ask questions about hierarchical network design. 
    Recommending a network topology is required for meeting a customer's corporate network design  needs in their business and technical goals and often consists of many interrelated components. The hierarchical design made this easier like "divide and conquer" the job and develop the design in layers.
    Network design experts have developed the hierarchical network design model to help to develop a topology in discrete layers. Each layer can be focused on specific functions, to select the right systems and features for the layer.
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    Ahmad Manzoor is a Senior Pre-Sales Engineer at AGCN, Pakistan. He has more than 10 years of experience in first-rate management, commercial and technical skills in the field of data communication and services lifecycle—from solution design through sales pitch, designing RFPs, architecture, and solution—all with the goal toward winning projects (creating win/win situations) of obsolete solutions.  Ahmad also has vast experience in designing end-to-end data centers, from building infrastructure design to data communication and network Infrastructure design. He has worked for several large companies in Pakistan and United Arab Emirates markets; for example, National Engineer, WATEEN Telecom, Emircom, Infotech, Global Solutions, NETS International, Al-Aberah, and AGCN, also known as Getronics, Pakistan.
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    Traffic forwarding—Ideally, all interzone traffic forwarding occurs in the core. Traffic flows from each zone within the aggregation layer up the hierarchy into the network core and then back down the hierarchy into other aggregation zones.
    Aggregation—Aggregation occurs along the core/aggregation layer border, allowing only interzone traffic to pass between the aggregation and core layers. This also provides an edge for traffic engineering services to be deployed along.
    Routing policy—Routing policy is deployed along the edge of the core and the aggregation layers, generally as routes are advertised from the aggregation layer into the core.
    User attachment—User devices and servers are attached to zones within the aggregation layer. This separation of end devices into the aggregation permits the separation of traffic between traffic through a link and traffic to a link, or device. Typically, it is best not to mix transit and destination traffic in the same area of the network.
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    Aggregation—A three-layer hierarchy has two aggregation points:
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    Routing policy—The routing policy is deployed within the distribution layer in a three- layer design and along the distribution/core edge. You can also deploy routing policies along the access/distribution edge, particularly route and topology summarization, to hide information from other zones that are attached to the same distribution layer zone.
    User attachment—User devices and servers are attached to zones within the access layer. This separation of end devices into the access layer permits the separation of traffic between traffic through a link and traffic to a link, or device. Typically, you do not want to mix transit and destination traffic in the same area of the network.
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    Network topology design—Highly meshed networks, with many requirements for interzone traffic flows, tend to work better as two-layer designs. Simplifying the hierarchy to two levels tends to focus the design elements into meshier zones. Networks that focus traffic flows on well-placed distributed resources, or centralized resources, such as a network with a large number of remote sites connecting to a number of centralized Data Centers, tend to work better as three-layer designs.
    Policy implementation—If policies of a network tend to focus on traffic engineering, two-layer designs tend to work better. Networks that attempt to limit access to resources attached to the network and other types of policies tend to work better as three-layer designs.
    Again, however, these are simple rules of thumb. No definitive way exists to decide whether a network should have two or three layers. Likewise, you cannot point to a single factor and say, “Because of this, the network we are working on should have three layers instead of two.”
    I hope that this helps you to understand the purposes of Two Layer & Three layer Hierarchical Model.
    Best regards,
    Ahmad Manzoor

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