Smart Album problem

Hello!
I thought to have a smart idea - namely to use "Smart Albums" in order to separate the pictures I shot with my different cameras. But for some reason I didn't get it to work correctly:
When I make a new Smart Album with 'Camera Model is" ... i.e. my new A620, the album does NOT contain all the pictures taken with it. Same when I set "File Name starts with" ... IMG for example, does not contain all the appropriate pictures, etc.
Odd: The only Smart Album I got working is one with the condition ""File Name starts with" DSC" - it separates the pictures taken with my SE K750i handycam, as they start with this letters. Odd because iPhoto doesn't show this camera name in it's list when creating the Smart Album.
Thanks for hints!
Donat
G4 1.25 Dual, 2 GB Mac OS X (10.4.5) Canon A620

Hi Glen
I tried your suggestion: the result is about the same. I.e. when I search for "Filename starts with 'IMG'" the result shows me only some of the appropriate pics but not all - although they are all in the same iPhoto library and even shot with the same camera around the same time.
Could it be that the iPhoto library got somewhat corrupted? If - how could I "de-corrupt" it?
Donat
G4 1.25 Dual, 2 GB Mac OS X (10.4.5)
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