Smart Album "Referenced" doesn't behave as expected

Hello,
I'm a little confused and hope someone can explain.
I've decided upon a purely referenced model, keeping my master files on an external drive. I have setup a few smart albums that display: managed, referenced, and missing images.
I am under the impression that all my images are referenced. So the following surprises me and I'd like to better understand what it means:
When I select "All Photos", I see a total of 645 images.
When I select my "Managed Photos" smart album, I see zero images (as expected).
When I select "Referenced Photos" smart album, I see 35 images (not expected!).
For the latter, the smart album is setup with: Include if ALL the following match: Rating >= Unrated; File Status = Referenced.
When I go back to "All Photos", select them all, right-click and bring up the "Manage Referenced Files" dialog, it shows 630 files on my external hard drive and no other files identified. This suggests to me that 15 images are NOT referenced, but that doesn't jive with the smart album views above.
Any help interpreting this would be appreciated.
Thanks
Tony.

OK, I've found out my error.
I didn't realize that when you create a smart folder, the 'smarts' only apply to the images in your current context. I.e., if you happen to have an album selected, then the smart album is created to only work on that album.
I deleted my smart folders and started again by selecting "All Photos", then creating the smart folders.
Now things are working as expected.
Tony.

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