Smart Albums and Search ignoring tags / keywords

Why is it that once images are imported into PE7, and if their keywords and tags are edited in an external editor (eg. Picasa, Photoshop), PE7 doesn't seem to recognize these new keywords/tags in Search or Smart Albums?!
The weird thing is, if I open/activate these newly edited files, I can see in thier properties that the new keywords/tags can be read by PE7, but these descriptions don't show up as matching results when we do a search box or smart albums.
What is going on?
On the other hand, Picasa will read, update and pick up any tags and keywords that have been entered in PS7, almost instantly. Why can't PE7 do this???

It's a design limitation of PSE. When you first import an image into PSE, it will read the metadata from the image's file (keyword tags, date/time, caption, notes, star rating) and store it in your catalog (the database where PSE stores all of its information about your images). Once the image is imported into your catalog, PSE will never read that metadata again, so if you change it with an external tool, PSE won't see those changes.
As you've observed, a number of other programs will track changes made to a file's metadata, including Windows Live Photo Gallery and Adobe Lightroom.

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Geoff Ingram (guest) wrote:
: My question
: ===========
: exactly what steps do you need follow to take an XML doc,
store
: it, and query based on a tag value.
: The 8i Intermedia text option Reference refers to
: XLM_SECTION_GROUP feature. However, no examples are given.
There
: is no user guide.
: I searched Oracle's website and found one reference to
: XML_SECTION_GROUP. The example given is a single row insert
into
: a CLOB column with a single pair of tags.
: This whitepaper gives an example of an XML doc, and a query on
: it:
: XML Support in Oracle8i and Beyond
: November 9, 1998
: It doesn't list the steps in between storing the doc and
quering
: it. This is crucial to the whole thing: does XML_SECTION_GROUP
: allow all nested tags below the top level to be sectioned and
: indexed implicitly? Or do you need to tell Oracle about all
the
: tags you are interested in, in which case what value is added
by
: the XLM_SECTION_GROUP?
: Does Oracle have some better examples on this?
: Below is text cut and pasted from the whitepaper.
: -----------x---------
: Figure 5: InsuranceClaim Mixes Structured Data and Text
: <?xml version="1.0"?>
: <InsuranceClaim>
: <ClaimID>12345</ClaimID>
: <LossCategory>7</LossCategory>
: <Settlements>
: <Payment>
: <Payee>Borden Real Estate</Payee>
: <Date>12-OCT-1998</Date>
: <Amount>200000</Amount>
: <Approver>JCOX</Approver>
: </Payment>
: </Settlements>
: <DamageReport>
: A massive <Cause>Fire</Cause> ravaged the building
: and
: <Casualties>12</Casualties> people were killed.
: Early
: FBI reports indicate that <Motive>arson</Motive> is
: suspected.
: </DamageReport>
: </InsuranceClaim>
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are
: stored in the database, their
: content can be searched using standard SQL queries, and
these
: files can be organized, browsed,
: and versioned using familiar tools like the Windows
Explorer.
: So an insurance agent sees a
: directory of InsuranceClaim files sheFs recently worked on
in
: the field, while an
: InsuranceClaim-processing application developer can work
with
: the information in the
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blobs"
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tags
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: the SQL language, developers can
: use SQL to perform queries that involve both structured data
: and indexed document fragments.
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