Smart Collection criteria problem

In a smart collection I set the parameters to:
The problem is that it now adds all images with "Cascade" and "Valleys" and "Byway" to the collection. I need for it to only add the images with the exact phrased keyword: "Cascade Valleys Byway"
The other images have keywords like Cascade range, central valleys or scenic byway and I don't want those images in the collection.
Are there certain keys to add to the smart collection to get it to do this? It seems like one of the choices when setting up should by to contain exactly.
Thanks for any clues.
Patrick

Thanks, I figured I'd have to dance around it to get it to work but you gave me the clues. Now I set it up like this:
But changed my keyword adding underscores and ticking the Export Synonyms, adding the correct keywords for export there. It seems to work.

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What we're finding severely lacking in the criteria options:
"Path name"    - would be ideal for excluding any files with a specified folder name in the path.
"Newer than"    - x amount of days
"Media type"    - dropdown list of "Video" "Image" "Audio" etc.
"Extensions"     - space delimited list, rather than single file type (".PSD .PNG .JPG") etc
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Perhaps I'm just too new to Bridge, and there are workarounds, but certainly nothing obvious. (Filters keep getting reset, labels are binary etc)

What we're finding severely lacking in the criteria options:
"Path name"    - would be ideal for excluding any files with a specified folder name in the path.
"Newer than"    - x amount of days
"Media type"    - dropdown list of "Video" "Image" "Audio" etc.
"Extensions"     - space delimited list, rather than single file type (".PSD .PNG .JPG") etc
With just one or two of these options the smart collections could actually be useful.
This is a user to user to Forum and while these are very good suggestions you might also want to try and post it on the Photoshop family forum which is recommended for feature Requests:
http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/
But be warned, don't hold your breath waiting for it to get realized. There have been tons of ideas for improvement and with Bridge already at version 6 the most changed result for the past 3 versions is that they removed functionality (AOM, Export panel and Sync windows) instead of adding improvement…

What would the Smart Collection criteria be to isolate files in a folder but NOT in a collection?

What would the Smart Collection criteria be to isolate files in a folder but NOT in a collection?

or else FAR more simply,
though in practice, the difficulty may lie with how fuzzily or precisely the search text used, applies.
QUESTION
I'd be very curious to know, does anyone know how to search on a section of a full folder path rather than on the individual parts of that?
My folders are structured by LR at import, as (e.g.) 2014 / 01 / 27 for 27th Jan 2014.
So if I wanted to use a Smart Collection to search for (among other things) images in July 2013, I can search multiply on includes all of "2013" and "07" but that also throws up in my case, images which were taken on the 7th day of other months during 2013. I could search on a date range, though that's a little more laborious, or else do what I otherwise prefer, which is by keywords and other attributes plus (possibly) just year.
If I could search on folder path includes the string "2013/07" this would work fine. But I haven't found a syntax that does that (yet, assuming it is possible at all).
RP

Smart Collection Criteria (keywords)

I'm just starting to create some Smart Collections, which is a nice feature that I'm trying to understand. I've read some of the tips and tricks, but I'm trying to figure out something:
I want to create a smart collection that has a particular keyword, but no other keywords. For example, I may have a bunch of photos with several different keywords, but I want to single out one keyword for the smart collection. I don't just want photos with that keyword, but photos with ONLY that keyword. I see you can specify "contains", "contains all", "contains words", "doesn't contain" - but nothing that specifies "contains ONLY".
So let's say I tag my photos with the names of my kids (we have three of them). I want to single out photos of just my son, Brandon. If I do the "contains" criteria, it's going to give me all of the Brandon photos, but also the photos with my other kids in the pictures as well. I don't see a way to specify that I ONLY want photos with the keyword "Brandon" and no other keywords in the photos.
Is there a way to do this? Or am I just not thinking clearly? ;-)

You can specify "Brandon", "but not Jason" "but not Susie."- that'd be all right for your kids, but I have almost no photos with just one keyword. I'd usually have setting or holiday or vacation or something else besides my kid's names in any event.

Smart Collection Keyword Problem

I'm having a problem with smart collections. I do bird photography and am trying to catalog my bird images. I created a collection set called Birds, and I created sub-collection sets for various species. Smart collections by and large do a good job of pulling images into the proper smart collections based upon keywords I've assigned to images. But I'm having a problem with a couple of keywords.
I have a collection set called Ducks, and inside I have the different duck species set up as smart collections. The rules for the smart collection for a given species are simple. For Harlequin Duck, the rule is: Keywords, Contains Words, Harlequin Duck. All of my Harlequin Duck images are correctly pulled into that smart collection. But if I try to create a smart collection called Long-Tailed Duck using the same rule structure, no images show up. The same goes for the smart collection called Wood Duck: no images are pulled into the smart collection. However, if I change the rule for Long-Tailed Duck to: Keywords, Contains All, Long-Tailed Duck, all of the images appear in the smart collection. This also works for the Wood Duck collection. If I look at the Keyword list on the right of the screen, both of the problem keywords are there and you can see the correct number of images next to the keyword.
Am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug? How can I fix this problem? Thanks for your help!

Contains All - Treats the input as multiple "word fragments" and matches any photo that has a keyword that contains all of the "word fragments", even if only in part (i.e. as substring).
For example: If you have two photos:
Photo A, with: 'Big Mallard Ducks'
Photo B, with: 'Small Mallard Ducks'
Then Contains All:
'allar uck ig' will match photo A, but not B.
'allar uck' will match both.
'Contains Words' is confusing as heck - I took a whack then realized I was wrong. Maybe somebody else can educate us both.
I just did this test - I have a photo with the keyword:
'Big Mallard Ducks'
then Contains Words:
Big - matches
Mallard - matches
Big Mallard - matches
Mallard Big - matches
Big Mallard Ducks - does not
Mallard Ducks - does not
Ducks Mallard - does not
Big Ducks - does not
Ducks - does not
Straight from the latest help file: Contains Words
Searches for text that contains all specified alphanumeric sequences as whole words. To find photos with the keyword flower using a Contains Word search, for example, type flower.
Here's another question for y'all:
Is 'Contains Words' broken? - I'd have to say it is...
Rob

Smart Collection Filtering Problem

I have set-up identical smart collections in both Bridge and Lightroom 2.4.
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In Bridge there are some images where I have only clicked on the sub-keyword "Story Bridge" (and not Callages). There are other images where I select the keyword "Collages" as well as sub-keyword "Story Bridge".
In Bridge I then set-up a smart collection that filters for both "Collages" and "Story Bridge". Both must be in the keywords for the image. This filters correctly ie the images that were only keyworded as "Story Bridge" are not included in the collection.
I then go to Lightroom and synchronise the relevant folders so all keywords in Bridge are brought into Lightroom.
I then set-up exactly the same Smart Collection that must have both "Collages" and "Story Bridge" as their keywords. This time Lightroom also includes all images that were only keyworded with "Story Bridge". Why is this so? I only want the images that have both "Collages" and "Story Bridge" in their keywords but I now also get the images with just "Story Bridge" as their keyword.
I have selected "Match all of the following rules" and added 2 rules for "Collages" and "Story Bridge".
In Bridge I get the correct filtered images but in Lightroom, with the same rules, I get all images with "Collages" or "Story Bridge" as keywords.
I have attached the smart collection filter dialogue boxes for both Bridge and Lightroom.
Any help would be appreciated.

I suspect that we will see these differences go away in time. Bridge is part of the Creative Suite and Photoshop family and codebase. Lightroom, while part of the Photoshop family, was a whole new approach with an entirely different codebase. Over time we'll see more convergence and various aspects of the applications will operate similarly.
I'm sure it's a monumental task for the teams at Adobe to coordinate all these moving pieces and features. Who knows what LR 3.0 and CS5 will bring to the table!

Smart Collection date problems

I have some pictures in my catalog that have completely incorrect dates. My step son didn't set the date on his camera and they are in the year 2048. These pictures keep appearing completely out of context and drives me nuts!
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I haven't changed them because I don't know the real date but, alas, I want to keep them. It doesn't look like I can remove the date (which date does LR use anyway?!) in LR. Nor does LR support partial dates. I guess I'm going to have to make something up. Does "Edit Capture Time" now work in LR? I suppose an approximate date would be better than a completely wrong date (but of course I will forget it's not an exact date...)
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How do I specify time of day as a smart collection criteria?

This seems like an unlikely omission but I cannot find it in the criteria list. "Date" only appears to deal with date, and that is where I would expect to find a capture time criteria. I have a need to separate two events in one day by their time of ocurrance (E.g. before/after 2pm).

There's a reason you can't find it.
It's not a feature of Lightroom.
If this is a one-time only thing where you need to separate two events before/after 2pm, just give each event its own keyword. Problem solved.

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i have a Smart Collection which captures images within a specified date range. I need to extend the date range but can't see a way of editing the Smart Collection criteria. Can this be done?
Thxs
Colin

Duh!!!! I was right clicking on the ordinary collection (similar name) below the one I really wanted to modify.
Thxs
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Smart Collections and History "criteria"

Hi!
I'm working on a workflow. I often go out to PS. Is there a way to create a Smart collection that stores files that have been EXPORTED to PS?
My next step, can the files HISTORY be accessed with the Search or Smart Collection criteria? Example, A particular image may have 5-6 virtual copies. I want to find the copy that I printed. I can see in the history that it PRINTED. I'd like a smart collection that stores only files that have been printed.
If the History can't be acceseed. Is there anyway to write the history to the meta data orsomething in the file?
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I rely too much on memory and guessing and would prefer, keeping a record in my Smart collections of my workflow.
Thanks
Alex

I don't think that using the Lightroom command Edit In ... leaves any indication in the History panel of the original photograph.
If you want to find the photos that have been edited via an external program ... since Lightroom appends "-Edit" to the file name, you could search for those, via smart collection or otherwise. Alternatively, since Lightroom keeps the base name the same (e.g. DSC_0001), you could search for all photos with DSC_0001 in the file name to see if there is a version named DSC_0001-edit
History cannot be written to the XMP metadata.
I don't know about searching for photos that have been printed, as I don't print locally.

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Herb Cover

I see capture date and edit date in the smart collection criteria.

Smart Collection gymnastics

Who finds Smart Collections to behave in a most peculiar fashion? They certainly do when dealing with collections.
If I create a Smart Collection with attributes: "Match all; Collection contains all Jewellery brochure; Rating is 5 stars", then I find the smart collection contains all 5 star images from the "Jewellery brochure" collection. This is expected behaviour.
Now I edit the smart collection: "Match all; Collection contains all Jewellery brochure; Pick Flag is flagged" and expect all flagged images in the "Jewellery brochure" collection to be in the smart collection. Instead, no images appear in the smart collection. This is unexpected behaviour.
It gets weirder. I edit the smart collection: "Match all; Collection contains all Jewellery brochure; Pick Flag is unflagged" and expect only unflagged images in the "Jewellery brochure" collection to be in the smart collection. Instead, all images appear in the smart collection, even those flagged or rejected in the "Jewellery brochure" collection. Again, this is unexpected behaviour.
Now for the truly bizarre. I reject one of the images in the smart collection. Then I edit the smart collection: "Match all; Collection contains all Jewellery brochure; Pick Flag is rejected". I expect all rejected images in the "Jewellery brochure" collection to be in the smart collection but instead get the image previously rejected in the smart collection appearing the smart collection!
It appears that the smart collection is operating on itself and not on the "Jewellery brochure" collection. It is all truly weird and makes smart collections difficult to use. If smart collections are behaving in Adobe's intended fashion then I must be far dumber than any smart collection. If it's related to fact that flags are local then I'd like some insight on the "smarts" within a Smart Collection.

>Pick and Reject flags are local, not global.
Indeed, but I still maintain (using my examples above) that Smart Collections do not work in an expected manner. The smart collection criteria should translate to an SQL query that, for example, finds all rejects in the Jewellery brochure collection. However, I cannot seem to compose a smart collection to do that.

Smart collections not reading correct number of images inside

I have an issue with smart collections for the first time. I have just set up a new workflow with 4 stages and the number counter next to the collection is counting wrong despite the images being represented in the collection. For example if I click on the smart colection I can see 10 images inside but the counter reads 3. Does anybody have this experience?
I have optimised my cataloge, however I do have some 20,000 images inside... will this reduce the ability of LR to keep up to running speed with such smart collection operations, giving incorrect readings.
What are best practices for image numbers and the arguement for running multiple cats. I've just tried in a fresh catalogue and the results were perfect. Is this an inherent limitation of Lightroom? I was under the impression that I could manage my whole archive and current projects under one roof, as it were.
Thanks,
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I suppose it would be worth optimising the catalog, if you haven't already done so.
Another idea, may be to make a fresh catalog and "import from another catalog" your current one, into that. This transfers pictures and keywords, collections, smart collections etc. But if there is something "structural" or "infrastructural" wrong with your live catalog, I'd expect that to get left behind by this process - since everyting should AFAIK get re-indexed after being brought in.
Then you'd go forward with the new catalog, if successful. Doing this makes no change to your present catalog so can do no harm to try - the various pictures' source files are simply shared across both catalogs - single file referenced by both, IOW.
One thing in your post (which I did not fully understand) suggested to me that your workflow relies at some point, on external metadata being written. If your workflow and smart collections criteria rely on the LR tracking of the status of external metadata, such as "is up to date", I believe this specific aspect has been found quite buggy and unreliable by many people: the metadata status badges etc, being sometimes rather approximate in their correspondence to reality . So if some other criterion could be found on which to base your workflow, that would probably go more smoothly .
However, if you do have more than one catalog pointing to just one set of photo source files, that aspect of writing metadata out, will of course be a little problematic - since the latest catalog to have written to the file will "overwrite", and the other catalog(s) will regard that same image as having been externally modified meanwhile.
regards, RP

Smart Collections Limitation?

I assume this is a known limitation of Smart Collections but I could not find any documention to verify so I am asking the community.
I would ideally like a Smart Collection to build on another exisitng Smart Collection using the "Collection Contains" construct.
I don't get an error message when I try this but I also do not get the right results.
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Not a bad feature, though. A smart collection criteria that is "use criteria from this other smart collection." This allows you to build on a main query (so to speak) and generate a bunch of different views.

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I have a smart collection for files where metadata has been changed. This helps me ensure that the changes can be saved to files on disk.
Recently I have noticed that this collection has started showing large numbers of files (800+), where the data needs to be saved to disk. If I select all of these files and then save to disk, they all disappear one by one, then when the collection is empty they all start reappearing again, until they are all back again.
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Thanks for the suggestion.
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