Smart collection - stacked pictures & parent keywords

Hi everyone!
I'm playing around with smart collections and am wondering it there is a possibility
- to filter for stacked photos and / or the first (front) picture of a photo stack...
- to filter for a parent keyword that is not attributed itself - it should show all the pictures with the respective child keywords (but not pictures with other keywords that might contain part of the parent keyword); or more simply put - filter just the way that would happen when you press the -> arrow next to a keyword in the keyword browser
Thanks for any inputs.

cyber-r wrote:
Hi everyone!
I'm playing around with smart collections and am wondering it there is a possibility
- to filter for stacked photos and / or the first (front) picture of a photo stack...
- to filter for a parent keyword that is not attributed itself - it should show all the pictures with the respective child keywords (but
Not possible with Lr's built in smart collections options, but there may be third party plug-in around that support what you're asking for. Try a search on Adobe Lightroom Exchange http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm?event=productHome&exc=25

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Any thoughts?
I think it's a good idea - consider making a feature request here:
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