Smart collection using "person shown"

Does LR3 support creating a smart collection by searching the value in the "Person Shown" field? What I would like to do is list the people in the picture then be able to create smart collections to find pictures with specific people in it, such as all pictures of Bob or all pictures of Bob, Bill, and Bret. I thought I'd be able to use "Person Shown" for this but it doesn't seem to be the case. If not, what technique can I use to accomplish what I'm looking to do?

You can put the name of the people in the photo into any field that Lightroom does recognize (for example, the caption field), and then make your smart collection.
Alternatively, you could assign keywords with the person's name, and simply click on the arrow to the right of the keyword name to perform your search, or create a smart collection based on keywords.

Similar Messages

When editing an image in ps from a lr 4.2 smart collections image not shown back in smart collection

Hi all,
I have noticed at LR 4.2, that if you edit an image of a smart collection using PS (edit in PS function threw LR) and then save, the image is not appearing in the specific smart collection. Instead image appears in the parent folder from where the smart collections retrieves images.
Has anyone notice that as well??
Forgot to mention that my parent folder with files is a collection created with virtual copies of seleveted files. If i edit in Photoshop directly threw this virtual copies collection then the files appears in smart collections as well. but if i edit in PS directly from smart collections then files dont appear into smart collections neither at the virtual copies collection!!

"obviously you use virtual copies when creating those collections" - why? It seems to me that this just increases the number of images in your Library for no benefit, unless you want to independently edit the two image versions, one inside the Event collection and one outside the collection. If you ever wanted to see an unedited version of a particular image, LR retains the history (and before/after view) needed to show that, within the single thumbnail.
It is not necessary to make a Smart Collection in order to show only picked images from a particular event. You can use a Filter to show just the picked images and hide the rest. That means you can work inside the collection, and that means that when you edit an image to PS, the new LR version WILL inherit the collection membership as well as the Pick status, and therefore will immediately show next to the image it is based on.
I think this is going to be simpler and easier - BTW you don't have to go back to Library Grid view in order to apply filters, only in order to configure them in the first place. By saving Filter presets with a name, you can then select between these directly [from the menu at the right end of the Filmstrip] while you work, even in Develop- for example, "no filter", "picked", "unpicked", "rated two or more", whatever you want. Also you can switch between the recently-viewed collections and folders [from a menu when you click on the image details text toward the left end of the Filmstrip], to change the underlying content of the Filmstrip, to which you are applying these filters.
By "using selection criteria other than membership in a manual collection", I just meant: a special keyword, or a particular folder, or some combination of such things. But if you prefer to put images into a Collection, you can just use that directly and IMO you don't need the SC.
I personally like to have some kind of sufficiently identifying keywords on the image anyway, so that Exported copies will also show this information automatically... since an exported image will not reveal what collection its master image belonged to, that classification alone is not enough IMO.

Lightroom 5: Can't make smart collection using keywords?

I watched a tutorial about how to make smart collections using keywords.
I spent a couple hours selecting the photos (using the paint can, good tip) and giving about 700 photos the keyword "use". Then I went to make a smart collection and discovered that it only allows you "any text field" with no reference to keywords. Many photos in my huge collection have the letters "use" in their titles.
So is there no way to select keywords as a basis for smart collections????

Jim Wilde wrote:
To be honest, I'm still not sure of the purpose/benefit of the change!
Definitely: to reduce time it takes to scroll from top to bottom .
Hopefully: to pave the way for additional metadata items in the future .
R

Creating smart collections using Import Smart Collection settings

Does anybody know if I can create smart collections using Import Smart collection settings? Where can I find any information on this other than Photo collections? In particular, I am interested in what to do with the ID.

I'll try to explain the best I can. I am trying to improve my workflow.
I have been a little lazy with my workflow, I don't rate by images for 2 reasons: 1) I haven't found a rating system I am comfortable with (we might have discussed this on another thread), and 2) I am not very good at critically assessing my own photo graphic work. This means I have very often jumped to the develop module to adjust an image without ever bother to rate them (almost 20% of my catalog).
I have also rated some images and never touched them.
So I have a need to find images I have rated and adjusted, images I have rated and not adjusted, and images I have adjusted and not rated.
Now, my photographers vision and knowledge have both changed substantially over the past 5 years. So to make the task more manageable I am trying to divide my catalog into 3 collections per year:
1 - Rated and adjusted
2 - Rated and not adjusted
3 - Adjusted and not rated
The assumption is that this is the bit of the catalog worth looking at and re-organise first. I know that anything I edited last year would have been more proficiently edited that anything I edited in 2010.
Does it make some sense?

Smart Collection Dates

When I create a Smart Collection using dates, I seem to get random photos as a result. For example, if I create a collection that specifies "Edit Date in the last 10 days," I get photos edited in the last 10 days plus hundreds of other photos that do not have any metadata dates in the last ten days, and I am certain that I did not edit them in the last 10 days.
How can this be corrected?
Dell XPS710 duo core, 4 gig RAM, WinXP Pro SP3

I posted a question this morning similar to this one. I was also getting many more photos in a smart collection than I had actually edited. However, I asked the question if it was possible that upgrading an image to the LR3 2010 process would change the Edit Date, which was the basis on which I was creating the Smart Collection. One of my respondents said, and I paraphrase, "Of course. Why wouldn't it?" Another reported that the Edit Date is kept in the catalog and not in the EXIF or IPTC data.
If the Edit Date is updated when the 2010 Process is invoked, then that is probably my answer as to why many more images are included that I expect. What happens is that when I go to edit an image that has not had its process updated, I am asked if I want to update that image or all images in the collection I'm working in. I have done both. So many of my images have been updated by the 2010 Process without having been edited in other ways.

Bug: Smart Collection/Label text/doesn't contain

LR 2.1 & 2.2, 64-bit, Vista:
Create a smart collection using "Label text"--"doesn't contain"--"xxx".
The collection *shows* images with the "xxx" label text just as if the collection was created using "Label text"--"contains".
Produceable 100% of the time.
Any one else have the same problem?

That is a bizarre bug. There is an even simpler way to reproduce the problem: Have two pics, one with title "a" and the other with title "t". The criterion "Title Contains a" correctly shows just the first picture, but the criterion "Title Contains t" shows both.
Searching with smart collections and filters has numerous bugs, but this one is by far the most surprising. As a geek programmer, I'd love to know what causes this!
Adobe rarely reads this forum -- I suggest you post this in the official Adobe feedback forum, which Adobe does faithfully read (but only infrequently responds).

Problems with smart collections

Technical stuff:
Adobe Bridge CS5
Windows XP
My situation:
I have created a smart collection that comprises over 500 images
the collection is based on image files I have tagged with the keyword "Canada Day"
Within the smart collection, I have additionally tagged specific images with either the keyword RAW or the keyword JPG
there are approximately 275 images that have all three keywords within the Canada Day smart collection
I want to create an AV show based on the images that have all three keywords, so I somehow I need to be able to remove the files that don’t have the three keywords
I thought I could accomplish that by creating a new collection / smart collection using the find function with the following parameters:
"Source" my top level folder (three years' worth of image)
Criteria:
Keyword: Canada Day
Keyword: JPG
Keyword: RAW
· Match if: Any criteria are met
I thought that would return me all files that had one or more of those keywords, but instead I got the message “no items to display”.
I tried another approach: removing the unwanted files from the smart collection; however, that functionality does not appear to exist in smart collections. I know I could remove the keyword “Canada Day” from the unwanted files, but I would rather not do that.
Question: how can I create a subset of a smart collection?
Question: why did the find function not work?
I’ve looked for answers online, through Adobe Help, and in my collection of Photoshop books, but have not been able to get any answers.
It would be great if the Forum could help me.
Thanks in advance,
Heather

Know nothing about Smart Collections, but question what you are really trying to do.
If you are trying to find the jpeg or raw images, they are not keywords, unless you specifically labeled them as such. You need to search for "Document Type" and then select jpeg or raw.
For search to work the folders must be indexed. Otherwise you will get "no items to display". If you visit the folder and let the spinning arrow in lower left hand corner finish the folder is indexed. Otherwise check the box in search window "include non-indexed folders". THis will be slow as it will index every folder.
Also, search works from where you start down. So make sure you start high enough in the directory tree to include all the folders of interest.

Smart Collections Limitation?

I assume this is a known limitation of Smart Collections but I could not find any documention to verify so I am asking the community.
I would ideally like a Smart Collection to build on another exisitng Smart Collection using the "Collection Contains" construct.
I don't get an error message when I try this but I also do not get the right results.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Robert

Not a bad feature, though. A smart collection criteria that is "use criteria from this other smart collection." This allows you to build on a main query (so to speak) and generate a bunch of different views.

What does the "collection" rule do in a Smart Collection?

It does not work as I expect, based on what the name suggests (I can't base my expectations based on any Adobe documentation since I can find none).
What I want to do is create a smart collection that includes all the photos in another (smart) collection.
Is this possible?
-Colin

Andrew Rodney wrote:
If you have one SC that works, I'm not clear why you want another that does the same thing.
I have many smart collections used for publishing which are replicated - Publish to Flickr, Smugmug, my iPad and my TV.
For me, it would be very useful to have the concept of a smart collection which mirrored and tracked the definition of another.
ideally for more flexibity it would be good if one smart collection could "inherit" and follow the properties of another as well as potentially add more refinement logic.
Just my view and the way I work.
Alan.

How can I extract parts of the EXIF metadata to use in a Smart Collection?

I want to aggregate all of the images I've captured by Capture Month and identify those images that were scanned or have no Capture Date. This question actually attempts to open the door for read access to all of the image metadata and the ability to store some of it in user-identified fields which, somehow, the user will be able to populate.
So - if the date fields (i.e. DateTime Original, DateTime Captured, DateTime Modified ) were broken down into, for example using DateTime Original: Original Year-YYYY, Original Month-MM, Original Day-DD. It may be possible to do this with a redefination of the schema used to define each of the fields. That would be the simpliest, easiest way - if that's possible.
If it isn't possible (or not in the near future, anyway) does anyone have any ideas?
Thanks

With over 45 years in IT (I know, it only means I'm an old man - not that I learned anything ), I observed that many of the problems I identified had simple solutions. The reason they weren't in the original releases was, the testers felt "Why would someone want to do that? Or need that data? Or that field?" Why would you hold an iPhone quite like THAT?
Since Adobe defined the schema that captures the image metadata and defined what fields would be accessable and in what way; the most direct solution to this is to modify the schema through a redefinition of the date fields — all of them — so the individual elements are accessable.
Also, because one of Lightroom's key features is image management, these new data fields should be accessible for Smart Collections. There's at least one other person in this community who's interested in a By Month Across Year sort and I suspect many people don't speak up, even if they have a similar need.
That's what I meant. While outside developers (non-Adobe employees) might be able to come up with a patch for the solution, the underlying problem will still remain until Adobe acts. Solving the problem is the less expensive means of dealing with the issue.
I think.

How many smart collection?

I am doing a event where I will be shooting family portriat and allow the client to select the photo they want to be printed as a 8x10. My plan is to use star ratings to with smart collections to sperate the family portrait from mother & father pose or kids only pose. My dillima is that I want to create a collection for each client that will house there shot use to choose there 8x10. Can I create a smart collection for each client?

What you're looking for is a relatively common workflow pattern among professional photographers and it seems that everyone does this somewhat differently. If I'm to understand what you're looking for, it is to work on a series of photos from one familyphoto session and then separate them into individual sets for showing. There are a number of ways to do this. Here's my preference. I would import all the photos from one family session and put a title on all images as ["family name" sequence}. I would also put the family name as a keyword, or use 1aaa(family name) as a keyword to place it up near the top of your keyword list for development purposes. After developing the images for the family keyword, I would re-title all of the images with the name of the individual shown and add a keyword specifically for the person or persons in the image nested under the family name as follows: Family name >parent 1, parent 2, child 1, child 2, etc., and remove the 1aaa keyword. When it came time to show them I would select the appropriate keyword and use the Slideshow module to show only those specific to that keyword; or place each keyworded group into a separate collection (top choice in the Library menu) and show from there. As an image was chosen for purchase, I would assign a star rating to it and do one of the following when ready for production. I would either go back to the family keyword and sort by rating and produce from here, or set up a smart collection with two fields - 1-the family keyword and 2 the appropriate number of stars. When the job was complete, or I had more collections than I wanted, I would delete the collection, relying on the keywords to find them in the future.
David Gluckman
811 22nd St.
Pt. Townsend, WA 98368
360 379-0360

Learning Filtering: Smart Collections doesn't show all filtered images

I'm studying using Classroom In A Book so this test is small and only using the few images provided on the CIAB CD.
It says in the book that a Smart Collection is a selection filtered according to whatever rules you specify.
This is fine, but when I click the down arrow to the left side of the screen to see the listings under Smart Collections only some of the filtered images are shown. Images that I marked with red are shown as a Smart Collection. Images that I marked with Green (only one) does not show. A single image that I marked with five stars shows up as a Smart Collection, so it can't be that you need more than one item marked before it shows up as a Smart Collection. I made sure that I have highlighted the folder that contains the images (made it local) and that they are displayed in Library Mode and in Grid View.
What might cause some of the images I have applied filter attributes to not to show up in Smart Collections?
TIA,
Ken

dorin_nicolaescu wrote:
Images that I marked with red are shown as a Smart Collection. Images that I marked with Green (only one) does not show. A single image that I marked with five stars shows up as a Smart Collection
What does the book say? It says "a Smart Collection is a selection filtered according to whatever rules you specify." It means the rules you specify for you r smart collection. These are default "canned" lightroom collections. The first happens to have the rule "show labelled with red", the second — "show 5-star images". Images tha match the rules defined in a SC - are displayed in that SC.
Double-click any smart collection to see its rules.
To create a new smart collection with your own rules, click Library>New Smart Collection.
The Smart Collections I have were created without me double-clicking on anything. The book just told me to try out some of the ways to mark images and to try out each way. All of a sudden, Smart Collections appeared with some of the marked images. I was just wondering why it stopped at some but did not do them all? Also, what if I don't want Smart Collections at this point? How do I turn it off from making arbitrary Smart Collections without my prompting?
Don't get me wrong dorin_nicolaescu, I am a beginner and know nothing. You sound like you have a good grip on what Smart Collections are and how they work. What you have writtenis helpful, especially the part about "To create a new smart collection with your own rules, click Library>New Smart Collection."
I am still in a Fog about why Smart Collections starts collections on its own.

Reading Advanced Metadata in Smart Collections, not working in Bridge CS6

In Bridge CS5 you could make an Smart collection that were looking for: All metadata > contains > "here we add a value from a metadata only visible from the Advanced tab in File info"
But this nolonger works in CS6.
Although I can go to File info and see the metadata value that are visible from Advanced. But the option All metadata, clearly doesn't support the advanced metadata in the file in CS6.
Could this be a bug in CS6?

If any one like to try this yourself and get same or other result, please let me know!
Otherwise this must be a bug to report to Adobe.
I don't have CS5 installed anymore but CS6 is still present while I use Bridge CC for my daily workflow (MacPro MacOSX 10.8.5).
I first copied 4 DNG files from my main folder to a subfolder. Those files I added a name to the IPTC extension persons name and saved.
Checked and this name shows in the IPTC extension persons name field in Metadata panel as well as in Advanced Tab in File Info IPTC Extended Properties / IPTC4xmpExt:PersonInImage(Bag container).
I closed the subfolder and used the smart collection icon to bring up the Find window.
I then selected All metadata and filled in the persons name, had subfolders and non indexed already included and put the source field to the main DNG folder.
The result was almost instant with the 4 files showing.
I then quitted Bridge CC and started Bridge CS6
Since I had not used this for a while and my main folder contained 4500 DNG I set the cache quality icon to embedded only. Selected the same folder and followed the same procedure as in CC.
Naturally it took a bit longer because the files needed to be indexed first, yet after this the result was still the same, the 4 DNG files with the persons name showed in the smart collection.
So on my behalf I can't reproduce your problem and for me it is not a bug also I'm afraid.

How to move entire Collections to a new catalog, including hierarchy, smart collections and also Publish set ups?

I want to move a large number of Collections, including all their hierarchy and smart collection settting, plus the photos, to a new catalog. I can only find a way of importing the actual photos themselves from the old catalog.
Also is there a way to have the publish settings migrated to the new catalog too?

Thanks for that.
I agree that a single catalog is the standard approach (all my personal photography is contained in a single catalog over the years). However this is for a large corporate event which we hold each year. This year I want to use extensively the face recognition and I don't want it assessing or confusing people with those who attended the event last year. The even is over 4 days and results in several thousand images from multiple photographers. It's just cleaner to keep the events in their own catalogs for now (good for archiving and backing up too)
Thanks again. Appreciate your help.

Update to process version 2010 & smart collection "has adjustments"

Buying the new Lightroom 3 version ofcourse I wanted to profit of the new process version. So I selected all images I had "not adjusted" before and selected Update to Process version 2010. This works great.
However I now have one problem.
I had and have a Smart collection which helps me in my workflow to find all images that have not been touched, so have no adjustments.
This Smart collection has become worthless because of the update to process version 2010 all images have been adjusted.
Ok, this is correct and yet I miss my ability to select images which I have not adjusted.
Once I have set the default process version to 2010 all new images are correctly shown.
Question: how can I select all those images which have only the process version updated, but have no further adjustments?

Changing the process to version 2010 is considered as an adjustment; it will appear in the photo's history in the same way as any other development adjustment. The smart filter condition "Has Adjustments" only has a true or false setting so you can't distinguish the process version adjustment from any other. Instead of using this method to spot the photos I need to work on, I find that I have more control over my workflow by using keywords such as "review", "develop", "print"; you can make these keywords not exportable so that they are not part of the keyword list in exported photos.
Interestingly, when one or more photos are selected in the film strip and the reset button is clicked in develop mode the photo will revert back to its original state, the "Has Adjustments" condition will become false, but the process version will remain at 2010.
If you have a backup of your catalog that precedes the step where you updated the process version of all photos, open this backup, add a keyword of your choice to all the photos that have not been touched, then apply the process version change. You can then change your smart catalog to use this keyword as opposed to the "Has Adjustment" condition and remove the keyword you have set on photos that have not been touched as soon as you are done editing them. IMPORTANT: Any changes you have made following the date and time of the backup will be lost.
If you don't have a backup to go to, you will have to manually identify which photos, which from your point of view, have not been touched.
Some ideas:
If you did not make other edits following the change of the process version, and have not made other edits on that date, you could built a smart collection based on the 'Edit Date" and then reset the develop settings of all the photos in that collection.
Another possible condition is a "Capture Date" range where you know photos haven't been touched yet.
There may be other options, there may be a plugin that can help you, or ultimately there would be means to access the database outside of Lightroom - contact me if you get that desperate to fix this!
http://www.BDLImagery.com

Smart collection using "person shown"

Similar Messages

Maybe you are looking for