Smart Folders that Omit Image Criteria?

In the midst of so many serious problems, this one is pretty trivial.
I have the sample Tibet project folder in my Library and I'd like to keep it there. But I'd also like the Tibet images not to show up in my smart folders, like "* or better" or "2005" under Library. Is there any way to NOT show an image if it contains a keyword or other criteria?

Folder has not been a criteria available for searching. There is a raw query item for the folder, but it specifically states that it cannot be used in a search.
I'm not aware of a workaround.

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I would like to create a smart folder that contains all files that have a filename matching a certain string that are not contained in a list of particular folders e.g. everything that has ".pdf" in the filename that is not contained in folders Downloads or Music.
I do not want to permanently exclude these folders from Spotlight's indexing just omit search results that yield files contained in certain folders.
Is there a way to do this?
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Folder has not been a criteria available for searching. There is a raw query item for the folder, but it specifically states that it cannot be used in a search.
I'm not aware of a workaround.

Making Smart Folders that only look in certain places

On Tiger, I could easily make a Smart Folder that only looked inside a given folder (and those below it) very easily..all I had to do was click the "other" button the appeared in the "Search:" bar in the Smart Folder. Then I could specify where I wanted the Smart Folder to look.
Try as I might, I've been unable to duplicate this functionality in Leopard. Am I missing something?

What you want is easily done, as V.K. pointed out, that is, to search a folder and all its sub-folders. The real problem with the disappearance of the Tiger "Other" is that you can not search two separate folders or places easily: your only choices in Leopard are This Mac, or the folder you initiate the search in. Searching two places can be done, as a Smart Folder, but not easily (you need a way to edit the code of the Smart Folder file--I use Property List Editor). You may find the little section on Spotlight in the Leopard Review I wrote helpful:
http://www.pinkmutant.com/articles/Leopard/leospot.html
While the short-comings in the GUI are a bit annoying, Spotlight is basically working very well. If there is some particular short-coming you are finding particularly annoying (the inability to list results by size springs immediately to my mind), be sure to let Apple know:
http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html/
If no one complains they'll figure they got it right. If enough people complain they may well change it, as they did with Stacks and the transparency run amok things (both modified in the .2 update).
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Design flaw in MAC OS X "smart folders" system resulting date lose

Hello there !
I would like your opinion on that issue.
This is how I discovered it : many, too many friends who switched to Mac reported me loss of iPhoto pictures with a question mark instead of the picture and "corrupted" iPhoto library. Is been more than 2 years and 15 persons in my entourage who reported that to me. This is big, too big in my opinion to not take in account those behaviors. I always thought they used iPhoto in a (very) bad way and I was wrong. They never recovered their picture.
After observing by chance how they manage their pictures, I observed, in my opinion, a big design flow in Mac OS X "smart folder" system that can too easily lead to (logically) data corruption in iPhoto.
As you know, Mac OS X comes with pre-made "Auto search" "smart folders" that are available in the lateral bar of every finder window such as "all images", "all movies".
What my friend do is use this automatic "all images" smart folder to browse recent imported pictures in iPhoto and send them by e-mail and move them around their disc, and/or share them. I fact I never had the idea of doing that with those folder, and this is very quick and handy !
Where the huge issue lies is that this auto "All images" smart folder searches INSIDE the iPhoto library package ! Therefore, if you move a file from the smart folder "all images" result to another place in your hard drive, you actually remove it FROM THE IPHOTO library package folder and iPhoto naturally lose track of the picture resulting in data loss.
I posted you a screenshot to illustrate that :
http://gallery.me.com/jbroussel#100105
I really wonder how the Apple Team can factory "lock" the iPhoto library content by making the folder a "package", BUT, at the SAME TIME, allow the predefine "all images" "Smart folder" browse in this entire very folder as if its content was available to the user. It is not a "Smart Folder" at all.
In a user point of view this is a huge FLAW. No wonder the user have no clue that he (or she) is doing something wrong by doing so. I especially noticed those error from users switching from Windows machine.
In my opinion this the most illogical design I saw in a long time !
What do you think about it ? Am I to exigent ? Too logical ?
Message was edited by: Didsayan

Thank you all for your interesting feedback, really.
When I say 15 people, it is the truth because I love to help my entourage with Mac (since I often recommended them the Mac in the first place), and this is on a 2 years timeframe, so it is not that bad, but I is enough to me to consider their behaviors, especially since I would not have done it myself (I am a Mac-only user).
Most of them had a backup (thanks Time Machine), but unfortunately, when they do noticed the problem it was too late and Time Machine already erased the backup that had the original pictures in it, so they could not retrieve their pictures.
Of course, as you said, some of the pictures were not "lost", just removed in another location, but this led to iPhoto database corruption and this is a lot of trouble. Trying to find the original location of 100+ pictures in iPhoto database is a pretty hard job since the structure is complex and this is very time consuming, I gave up the idea of fixing those folder.
I totally agree on the fact that I is too easy to blame the system for user wrong manipulation.
In that very case, the standard features of the system are to me far too ambiguous :
- iPhoto library folder content is hidden to the user (UNLIKE iTunes library folder)
- but the standard "smart folder" "all image" search within this very "hidden content"
All that without letting the user know if he does not pay attention to the path.
Look at the screenshot I made and you will see the path is so long that it is hard to keep track were the file actually is.
I talked to user who made the mistake, and their belief, this "all image" folder is "like browsing in iPhoto" or like any "media inspector" window like in iMovie or Keynote. Which in fact, is not at all.
I suggested this discussion because in my opinion, this "all images" "smart folder" is too prone to incident, especially with unexperienced user. Thank you for the feedback.
As suggested by etresoft, I will let Apple know.

Spotlight Comment Missing, But Smart Folders Still Work

I have entered a lot of spotlight comments on files. On about several 100 off them, Apple Command i does not show any spotlight comments. Its not likely that I erased or failed to "save" several 100, say about 600 out of 900 files. I know for a fact that I entered spotlight comments on nearly all of my photo files. For some reason, the smart folders that look for spotlight comments still return the files.
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Well, this is proving to be a tough case. I rebooted with Option, Command P and R, and then rebooted in safe mode and ran disk utility, both verify permissions and check volume on both the upper level drive (the one that has a technical name) and the named volume (the one that has a user-assigned name). I hate to say this, but nothing has changed. <darn>.
I am kind of thinking about paying Apple to furnish and install an upgrade to my OS from 10.4 to 10.6 but am reluctant because of persistent reports that the newer OS has driver problems with Epson photo printers, and other issues with Adobe LightRoom which is a critical app for me.
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Smart Folders and logical option

Hi all,
I have found a search option in "Last week" smart folder that I haven't found anywhere else. It is
"All (/None/Some) of the following are false"
If you could tell me where to find it I would appreciate because it would be very helpful to create smart folders that exclude things. Especially with Leopard where there is no more (at least by what I know so far) the "is/is not/contain" switch in every search option.
I haven't found it in the long and very detailed list of search option in "Other...".
It is an Automator creature?
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no. it's not possible with Aperture. you'll have to work around this limitation.
in my library, I use keywords including one ' unidentified'. when I decide to place an image into a smart album, I first apply the appropriate keyword and then remove (shift-click the keyword control button) the ' unidentified' keyword.

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This problem seems to only be related to smart folders that contain RSS feeds - my smart folders that hold mail messages are appropriately zippy, and selecting the RSS feeds themselves rather than the smart folders is perfectly fine.
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- Win7 http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Start-your-computer-in-safe-mode
- XP http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/boot_failsafe.mspx
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- https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/safe-mode
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Searching Smart Folders and Negating... or not...

Hey, I've been searching the discussions for a bit and can't seem to find what I'm looking for.
Basically I have two iTunes Library folders (with a bunch of artist/ album sub folders). I have two smart folders that isolate all the audio files from each library... but from there I'm trying to search the two smart folders to see which files are in one folder and not the other. I was trying to use the kMDItemFSName and the kMDItemPath attributes to find what files had 'Temp Music' in their path names compared to those that don't (as a way to differentiate which libraries the files come from). However I don't think I'm using them correctly with all the sub folders. Is there an easy way to search for "whats here && not in here" on the smart folders?
One music library is on an external drive. Don't think that should make much difference... Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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It is what I use for my incremental backups, so I've found it well worth the $30, especially since you get free updates forever.
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Hi there everybody,
A question for you all. When I create a smart folder it uses the criteria I choose and asumes that I want to find files/images, etc. that meet "all" of the criteria (for example Mail Smart mailboxes can be created that meet "any" criteria you choose, thereby broadening your search, instead of "all" criteria that limits your search).
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Also, can I tell a Smart Folder to grab a Smart Mailbox and include it in my Smart Folder search?
My ultimate goal is to use Tiger to create a project folder with contacts, calendars, emails and files associated together. Then there would be no need to worry about more software, worries of integration with iApps, etc.
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