Smart Mailbox Folders dissappeared

I have Lion 10.7.4 on 2010 MBP. I use the mail program on the Mac. I have 20 Smart Mailboxes set up and each is working fine. Yeterday I set 5 Smart Mailbox Folders and placed each Samrt Mailbox in the appropriate Smart Mailbox Folder. At the end of the day i turned the MBP off. This morning when I opened mail all my Smart Mailbox Folders were gone. My Smart Mailboxes are still there. Anyone else have this problem. I am having alot of issues with Lion also. Thanks

Hi Asa
I'm having the same problem. Did you ever get a solution to this issue?
Cheers
Andrew

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I have created several new smart mailbox folders to file my incoming emails but they are purple with a cog in the middle rather than blue. These purple folders will not allow me to drag emails into. Is there a simple process to make them receptive?
Thanks

boxhead wrote:
The purple folders are Smart Mailbox folders, whose content is dependent on the conditions you set up for each of them.
That isn't quite correct, actually.
In Leopard there are *"Smart Mailboxes"* and also *"Smart Mailbox Folders"*. Both look like purple folders with cogs.
+Smart Mailbox+ contents depend on criteria set for them.
+Smart Mailbox Folders+ are only useful for organizing +Smart Mailboxes+.
Of course, email can't be put into either one.
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Can't create New Smart Mailbox Folders

I can't create New Smart Mailbox Folders. If I go to (menu bar) Mailbox the 'New Smart Mailbox Folder' item is greyed out.
Any ideas on what the problem is, or what I could try?
I already have quite a few Smart Mailbox Folders in Mail, but if I remember correctly I created all these in Tiger & haven't made any since using Leopard (clean install).

I found the answer and it is really stupid. To ungrey the "New Smart Mailbox Folder" menu option you need to unselect any folders or mailboxes. The quickest way to do this is just click just below them, on the blue-grey bar.

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That says it all. I created several smart mailboxes and then created several smart mailbox folders. When I close mail and re-open, one smart mailbox folder remains and the others are gone, along with some but not all of my smart mailboxes. Any one got any ideas?

Came here looking for help with almost exactly the same problem. Made a couple of Smart Mailbox Folders yesterday (for the first time under Lion), and suddenly at some point today they're gone. Although I don't appear to have lost the 2 or 3 actual Smart Mailboxes they contained.
Thought maybe I'd imagined creating them for a moment, but took Mail into Time Machine, and there they were on all backups back to yesterday afternoon. TM will only restore actual messages I think ... so recreated the folders, but as you found, on quitting Mail and reopening, there they weren't - gone! Again!
And now, couple of hours later, I try again, just for the **** of it, and at the moment the one folder I've made appears to be staying put. Not aware of any particular difference in machine context, though clearly there must be something.
Some curiosities ... think I noticed they'd gone shortly after having a perplexing few minutes where I'd lost the Icons for my USB TM drive and a mounted DVD off the desktop, though they still displayed as mounted in Finder sidebar - nothing to do with Finder prefs, I checked and Finder was still set to display icons mounted disks; and at the same time, two particular documents (out of around 30 items) on the desktop that keep sporadically losing their positions repeated their offense. May have nothing to do with the Mail folder problem, but these are the first two head scratching moments I've had in my first 3 weeks of 10.7.3.
If anyone can shed any light on this, that'd be great.
Just getting to grips with a brand new Macbook Air, my first Intel Mac so I've leapfrogged Snow Leopard, but never had this problem with the few uses I made of Smart Mailbox Folders under Leopard.
Andy.

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Creating Smart Mailbox Folders in Mail.app (Lion): they do not save and disappear every time the application closes....

Hello there -
Hopefully someone can help, because this is just frustrating and weird. In Mail on Mac OSX Lion, I can create all the Smart Mailboxes I want, but if I try to create a Smart Mailbox folder, it shows up just fine in the sidebar. But, as soon as I close Mail, then re-open, the Smart Mailbox Folder is gone as if it never existed. This happens whether or not I actually put any Smart Mailboxes in the folder. Anyone else seen this issue and have suggestions?

Okay, I think I just discoverd a workaround. This will work if you're lucky enough to already have a smart-mailbox folder that persists after close. (Somehow I had two such folders that already existed and weren't subject to the mysterious disappearances on closing the app; perhaps I created them in a previous OS X release?) Anyway, here goes:
Locate an already existing smart mailbox folder that's working properly. Select the folder (in the sidebar).
Duplicate that folder using the "Duplicate Smart Mailbox" Command. (It's on the contextual pop-up menu or available via the gear icon in the lower left of the window). This should produce and exact copy of the folder and the boxes inside, appearing at the bottom of the smart mailbox list.
Edit the duplicate folder to put the smart mailboxes you want in it, and delete the previous mailboxes (duplicates) that you don't want.
The new folder structure should now persist between launches of the app.
There you go. Not the most elegant process, but workable. Don't know if there's a method if you don't have at least one smart mailbox folder already though.

Lost all my mailbox and smart mailbox folders when I had to reinstall Mail

My messages were garbled...a message from one person today was attached to a message from a completely different person sent weeks ago. Called Apple and we removed Mail and plist from the Finder Library. Now my new messages are fine. But I've lost all my Mailbox folders where I organized messages. Can't find the messages on the dotmac server either. Where are those messages? I need to find them.

Mailboxes and messages are located in ~/Library/Mail Check that folder to see if any folders are named for your accounts (e.g., [email protected]). Look in these folders if they contain any messages.
Alternatively, you can do a Spotlight search for a specific message that you know you had. In the Search results, right-click to Show in Finder. This may lead you to where all your other messages are.
Other than re-importing messages from within Mail.app, I don't know how you can restore everything including folder structures, etc. Perhaps someone else in this forum can give pointers. Re smart mailboxes, you can just recreate them once everything is back in.

Smart MailBox Folders still not working ?

Has anyone found a way to fix this ? I create a Smart Mailbox Folder. Then I create a Smart Mailbox which is filtering To-Do's based on their Calendar. I can't get the Mailbox to go into the Mailbox Folder ? I drag and drop but it doesn't stay in. It has been like this since 10.5.0
Thanks - Michael

Ahh. Wierd. I would say someone slipped up in the design process - at the very least you would expect them to have the same behaviour, even if it was not the behaviour you want. I would use OS X Feedback to tell Apple about it.
AK

Smart Mailbox Folders and To Do Smart Mailboxes

I cannot move smart mailboxes to a smart mailbox folder if the logic for the smart mailbox is for a ToDo search. If I create a smart mailbox with a message search I can move it into a folder then change it to a ToDo search.
The smart mailbox stays in the folder for a bit then disappears.
Has anybody else found this, am I just doing something silly?
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Me neither. Have you been able to figure out why???

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I would like to create a smart mailbox with a number of smart mailboxes nested within it. The Mail help menu suggests this can be done, however, it escapes me. The exact words from the Mail help menu under the organize smart mailboxes topic are:
"As with regular mailboxes, you can 'nest' Smart Mailbox folders by creating new Smart Mailbox folders within existing Smart Mailbox folders."
I cannot drag them onto other smart mailboxes, and cannot find any options when creating a new smart mailbox to do this. Am I missing something?

When you create a new smart mailbox you must have the one it will nest in selected. This is the usual procedure for nesting mailboxes. I haven't carried this right through to test whether it works for smart mailboxes but it does for ordinary mailboxes.
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My wife uses Mail.app for her business in which gets hundreds of emails a day and managing them all is quite a challenge. One important goal of e-mail management is archiving certain emails in folders (and sub-folders) without creating duplicates. What I've done is to create rules to move e-mails into their respective the folders and flag them based varying criteria. This works great!
The problem is when I make a smart mailbox to include only flagged messages in a specific mailbox, only messages in the root mailbox are found. All messages in the sub-folder are ignored or never considered. I used the "not in mailbox" option on my own mail.app but this isn't practical for her because she manages numerous e-mail accounts for clients and she adds new accounts frequently.
Is there a solution to my issue that doesn't involve puting all the messages into the root mailbox?

Mine are showing emails in subfolders, but I don't have near that many emails.
Maybe you need to reindex the spotlight database.
The normal method is to add the Hard drive to the Privacy tab in Spotlight prefs. If that doesn't cause it to index, here is a Terminal way: http://www.maclife.com/article/howtos/how_reindex_spotlight

How do I include sub-folders in a Smart Mailbox?

I've set up a Smart Mailbox using the following rules (ALL) :
1. Message is in Mailbox XXXX
2. Subject contains YYYY
3. Contains attachments
But only 3 messages were found! I then realised that although I carefully selected a high-level mailbox (XXXX), it hasn't looked in the large and very complex set of sub-folders.
Obviously, I don't want a smart mailbox for every sub-folder below XXXX. How do I force a Mail Smart Mailbox to look not only in a selected mailbox, but all its sub-folders too?

Never mind. I worked it out for myself.
Step 1. I created a new Smart Mailbox for any messages in mailbox XXXX, and all its lower level sub-folders, using the Match ANY rule.
Message is in Mailbox XXXX
Message is in Mailbox XXXX-AA
Message is in Mailbox XXXX-BB
Message is in Mailbox XXXX-BB-1
(etc)
Step 2. I then recreated the original Smart Mailbox (OP), but this time I stipulated
1. Message is in Mailbox (new Smart Mailbox). Rules 2 and 3 were unchanged.
It meant I had to create two Smart Mailboxes instead of one, and cost me ten minutes extra work, but it works. That's the main thing.

Setting up local folders with smart mailboxes?

I use Mail for my work email, and am constantly going over my quota - Is there any way to set up local folders and use smart mailboxes to automatically move emails from certain people off the server and onto my hard drive? thanks in advance.

You would not do this with Smart Mailboxes, as they are only the result of a search list, and don't actually cause any message to move. Instead, you would use ordinary Rules to do this, but would have to select all messages every so often, and then command to have the Rules applied, when done after the fact of receiving the message.
A Smart Mailbox might be a good way to group messages for your consideration, manually, to move to On My Mac mailboxes.
Ernie

Will deleting the inbox anf inbox.msf files within the smart mailboxs folder delete any emails in my unified folders?

I have three accounts set up in Thunderbird, two are unified and the third one isn't. I've looked through the setting in the tools-account settings for each of the three accounts but I cannot see anything that refers to unified folders. I have the view-folders button set to on.
I've seen a solution on your forums which reads:-
Help menu (Alt +H) > troubleshooting information Click the show folder button.
Close Thunderbird
open the mail folder open the smart mailboxes folder
Delete the inbox and inbox.msf files
Restart Thunderbird.
I don't understand why this solution should make all my inbox's unified, and I don't want to loose any emails.
Can anybody help please?
Response appreciated.

Bonjour Crumbleey,
Excuse me, I don't understand your problem ... Can you describe it and tell me what you want to get ?
I have been using Thunderbirds for years now, I installed it in many PCs, I solved many problems using only the standard possibilities of Thunderbird, I never had any need to intervene in the emails files and folders.
If you want to delete an account which has its own set of folders, if you want to keep its emails, first move the emails in Local folders.
Pierre

Mail folders and smart mailbox

Can someone tell me what the difference is between a regular mail folder and a smart mailbox?
I made a lot of mail folders under "on my mac" and I just found that I can make a smart mailbox. How are they different?
When do you use one and not the other?
Thanks, Susan

a smart mailbox is not a regular folder. it's a saved search. you do a search and save the search parameters so you can repeat the search quickly. that's what a smart mailbox is. no actual messages are moved anywhere when you make a smart mailbox.

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