Smart Mailbox Message Counter

Is it possible to have a Smart mailbox in the Mailbox pane on the left side of the Mail window show the number of messages in the Smart Mailbox and not just the number of unread messages? What would be most desirable is a indication like "3/7" where the 3 indicates 3 unread messages and 7 indicates the number of all message read and unread.
Thank you in advance.
Jeff Cameron

I guess there is no answer. I will post this as an enhancement request with Apple.

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PD: please award points if helpful.
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