Smart Object Aliasing

Hi everyone,
So, all of a sudden I'm having aliasing issue with my smart objects in CS6 I never had before. I've searched all over PS and these forums to try and figure out how to get rid of the jaggies, with no luck. Below is a screenshot example of a SO with the aliasing (I'm trying to reconstruct a dresser top). Can anyone help me get back to smooth edges?
Many thanks for any and all replies
Andy

Thanks for the prompt reply!
My II setting is Bilinear. And I'm not totally sure what you mean by "scaling", but if you're wondering if I created the SO from a smaller image, I did not. In this case, I simply grafted a piece of wood paneling from another piece of furniture to make the dresser top, which was slightly larger to begin with.

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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8162462/SO-aa-issue%3F.tif
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mojoimagery wrote:
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I got this problem when I installed Adob master collection Over CS 5.
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2) I had this file on my desktop (Vector Smart Object10.ai) but it didn't show any icon, which program should open this type of file.
3) Double click on the file and it pop up a extension window 'Click on change and select adobe illustrator' and press OK.
4) Go back to your photoshop file and right click on smart object layer and click dit content. now this time it opens up assets in illustrator.
ENJOY!
www.4d-studios.co.uk

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