Smart object in PSD CS5`

Why does ps create a temp ai file when placing smart object? Editing is linked temporary file instead of original.

I assume you used CS5 in both offices?
Before CS5, SOs did not work on the principle of external links. If you were using CS4 or earlier, it's not likely you saw an edited SO just because you made an edit to your original AI file. There's no connection between the two.
Up to CS5, SO data is stored INSIDE Photoshop. When you double click an SO, that temporary file (the one you're asking about) opens to make your edits, then "disappears" once you save it. That's how and when the SO is updated.
It's my understanding that there's a plug-in or patch for CS5 that WILL permit linking. I don't have it but have read references to it in this forum. Someone will be along who knows more. But if such an add-on does exist, it's possible your success in the first office was due to it, and the machine in the second office didn't have it loaded?

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Hi All, I've taken a vector graphic created in AI CS4 and pasted it into my PSD CS4 doc as a smart object. When the original AI file was created the application window was set as I preferred it, filling my screen. When I double click the Smart Object in PSD to edit it back in Illy, the window that contains the application has been switched off of the fill screen mode and is quite a bit smaller. I know it's small but now I have to click the maximize icon in the application bar to get Illy to fill the screen again. It wouldn't be so bad once, but the application window resizes itself every time I punch back into the smart object from PSD.
Any ideas on how I can get the AI environment from switching around on its own??
Win 7, CS4, all patches current, Dual 22" montiors
thnx,
jeff

I just want to point out that when you open the smart object of course it is not the same file as the original but an embedded copy of it.
That might also have something to do with this issue and might also be a photoshop issue with the smart object and one reason might be that Photoshop is see the image as resolution and Illustrator sees it as a dimension and the teams might be able to do something about this but might not actually be aware of it unless you file a report even if it is not a bug it would then be a feature request.
They might not be able to do anything about it but then there might be a clever engineer with an idea, so it might be worth the report.

Smart Object Transformation in CS5

Has anyone noticed that when you scale down a smart object in Photoshop CS5, the transformation tool resets the dimensions to 100%? In CS4, you are able to see the transformation properties once you scale down (by option-Shift clicking on the bounding box). It would be helpful to retain the scaled dimensions of the transformed smart object in case you need to import other smart objects to rescale.

Thanks. Here's a link to the video of me transforming in CS5:
http://www.notchill.com/tmp/CS5_SmartObject_Transform.mov
Please note: The smart object I imported was already scaled down from the original size, but the transform controls show it as 100%.
In contrast, here is a screen cap of me doing the exact same process in CS4:
http://www.notchill.com/tmp/CS4_SmartObject_Transform.mov
As you can see, once I get into transform mode, it shows that the smart object has been scaled from its original. This data is very valuable.
Hope this helps to clarify. Please note this applies to rotation as well.

Smart objects from PS CS5 being edited in AI CS4

I have both the CS4 and CS5 creative suits loaded on my machine.
Just recently when I edit smart objects in Photoshop CS5 it launches Illustrator CS4 to edit the objects. I am also seeing this in InDesign where it will choose AI CS4 when I select edit original.
Is there a way to change the default to use CS5 products?
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Phil

Try changing the file association of the .AI file format from CS4 to CS5 through Windows, usually done by right clicking on a .AI file and choosing Open With->Chose default program

Smart objects not updating (CS5)

I am using CS5 Photoshop and when I try to save edits on an opened smart object (eg. after editing a ‘placed’ photograph) a ‘Save As’ dialog box appears. When I save the edits to the smart object, using the prompted file name, they are not reflected in the master document.
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Yes I am apply layers to a JPEG. So it's solved by flattening the image and saving, but this mean I lose my fiter and masking layers.
Does that mean the quickest way would be to open the JPEG image before placing, save it as a PSD and then place it?

Opening DNG as a Smart Object into Photoshop CS5?

I am using a Windows 7 64 bit platform and CS5 64 bit. I have the most recent Camera Raw plug in for my Nikon D3100 camera. In Bridge you are supposed to be able to open a dng file in Camera Raw, make your corrections and then by holding the Shift key it should change the open file button to open it as a Smart Object. When I do that nothing opens in in Photoshop.
Any suggestions?
P

Jeff Schewe wrote:
pbfp wrote:
Can you tell me how to access the workflow settings?
Pretty simple (and the settings are sticky), open a raw image and in the center where the processing info is shown (lower center link) which acts both as an info readout AND a button to change the Workflow Options settings, click on this link...it'll give you a dlog to change the Workflow Settings.
Alter the settings and click Done (cancel doesn't work since it works as a Cancel).
Thereafter, unless you make changes, the Workflow Options should be sticky.
Thank you Jeff for the information.
Please let me know if you think the worflow settings are wrong: Here is how the workflow is currently set: Space: Adobe RGB 1998; Depth: 16bits/channel; Size 34072 x 4608 (14.2 MP); Resolution: 260 p/in.; Sharpen: None; Amount: none; The bix is checked to open in Photoshop as a Smart Object.
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I am also having a very hard time sending dng files from Lightroom into Photoshop. So clearly there is something not "connected" properly. Or maybe it is not clearly, but I am supposing that there might be some general issue. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
P

Archiving: toss original raw, keep it as smart object in PSD ok?

For archiving purposes, once a .NEF is embedded in a .psd file as a smart object,
I can toss the original .NEF, right? Cuz the entire reference is contained within
the smart object as long as I keep the .psd, right?
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Charles, I've got very bad news for you: Adobe controls TIFF (has for a while) and of course the DNG format too, as it is their own creation to begin with, just as they control PSD and PSB.
From the TIFF File Format entry in Wikipedia:
TIFF (originally standing for Tagged Image File Format) is a file format for storing images, popular among graphic artists, the publishing industry, and both amateur and professional photographers in general. As of 2009, it is under the control of Adobe Systems. Originally created by the company Aldus for use with desktop publishing, the TIFF format is widely supported by image-manipulation applications, by publishing and page layout applications, by scanning, faxing, word processing, optical character recognition and other applications. Adobe Systems, which acquired Aldus, now holds the copyright to the TIFF specification.
Adobe has chosen to publish the specifications for PSD, to make it accessible to other developers.
If they wanted to, they might conceivably pull the plug on TIFF and DNG, the same way you fear they can on PSD. No difference there.
TIFF and DNG are no more "open" formats any more than PSDs are, not more and not less, anyway.

Smart Object Display Issue CS5 - Anyone else?

I created a new PS document (CS5 Mac latest version) I have a few layers I grouped and made a smart object for ease of updating and reuse. Problem is my smart object just randomly disappear or even sppear to be "erased" by other layters if i move them around. They are still there and through some random acts I can them to reappear.
I am not even sure if I can explain it right as it is just odd...
Anyone else having dusplay issues with Smrt Objects in CS5?
I am running on a new iMac in 64bit mode.
Thanks!

Try turning Open GL off and relaunching the document. This is most likely something to do with your Graphics card not being able to keep up with Photoshops stringent requirements.

Understanding Vector Smart Objects in PSD

I'm trying to learn to use Smart Objects in PS to edit files created in AI. I watched the Adobe TV video as well as a few others. It seems easy as pie. But one thing confuses me. What is the file that gets created called Vector Smart Object.ai? Do I need to do anything with it? Does it et saved anywhere? I don't see it in the folder in which I've stored my psd and ai file. It just seems to go away when I close everything down. BTW- I'm in cs 6 and am using Place command. Many thanks for helping me to understand this.

If I am in CS 6, then are you saying I can currently delete the ai file and still be ok - that that is how CS6 & Embedding works?
Yes. You can easily verify this. Move the used AI file to another location via Explorer/Finder so Photoshop won't find it. Open your PSD file and you will see that Photoshop opens the file just fine because there is no connection any more with the original file.
And if so - what are the benefits of the Linking compared to the current Embedding - now available in CC? - again - many thanks!
Say you use the same logo made in Illustrator on many different projects e.g. a letter head, a poster, a business card, whatever. Now your client says: I like all the different layouts but I think I would prefer green text instead of blue text... No problem at all for you, you change it once in the AI file and it will update automatically in all the linked objects.
Obviously in that case, the AI file can not be deleted or moved or Photoshop (and you) will have a heart attack...

Questions about smart objects in CS3-CS5.

Hi.
Two questions.
When I replace content of smart object in CS2 the content takes the size of previous state of smart object in pixels.
It was very useful when need to replace some background to another and it autoresized to the new size and proportion.
For example, when I replace content of smart object with external size 100x90px and 100x90% proportion (can see with Ctrl-T) with file with 200x300px size, i have new smart object with old size 100x90px and new proportion 50x30%.
When I try to do the same in CS3-CS5 I get smart object with size 160x216px and proportion 100x90%.
Haw can I return the old behaviour?
Second.
In CS2 I use files with a lot of smart objects each of them may consists with some others smart objects and so on.
But i can`t use this scheme in CS3-CS5 because of very high consumption of scratch memory.
Very-very simple example. In CS2 create file 4000x3000px, create new layer and draw there black square 300x300px.
Convert the "square" layer to smart object. Then duplicate it with Ctlt-J 30 times. Save the file and reopen.
The scratch size is about 280 MB and practically not changing when moving layers with movetool.
Open this file in CS5. The scratch size is about 2.5 GB and quickly increase to 5 GB and above when i try to move layers. And this is a very simple file.
If i will try to open several such files in CS5 the amount of useing memory will be fantastic.
Why there is such behaviour whis memory in cs3-cs5 photoshops?
PS. sorry for my english. hope you understand me.

Hi,
What version of Ps and AI are you using?
1. In Ps, there's no controls for the AI layer visibilty, but the visibility attributes should be respected.
2. The placed file is an embedded copy, not a link to an external file. However, there is a script that you might find useful for your purposes. I'm not sure if the Win support improved with CS5.
http://ps-scripts.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3045%20Brilliant%21%21
regards,
steve

Layers, Smart Object, or PSD?

Hello
I'm a casual user of CS3, and would like to do a large amount of editing of a JPG requiring many sessions and many saves. How best should I do this? Should I:
1) Create a layer for editing; save the file each time I quit and not worry about image degradation?
2) Create a smart object; is the smart object for this purpose? A brief run-through on creating the smart object, and finally saving back as a JPG would help, thank you :-)
3) Merely save repeatedly in Photoshop format, PSD, and not worry about image degradation?
Thanks for your help!
Pete291

…would like to do a large amount of editing of a JPG
You don't 'edit' a jpeg. No one edits a JPG. You edit an image. When the image is open in Photoshop, it has no format as such.
JPG is a destructive, compressed format, PSD is not. When you save as PSD you lose no quality whatsoever. So if you have many saves, the last option is most probably the most sensible.

I cannot open a file from LR5 into CC2014 unless it is a smart object. also will not save back to LR at all it gives me an error message "Line: 1 - photoshop.notifyLightroomDocClosed ('lightroom-2.0', 'B53AFA39-A49B-4709-A9BD-0B6467C175C3', 'Macintosh H

I cannot open a file from lightroom into CC2014 unless I open it as a smart object. CC opens, just will not display my image. i am given an error code when I save an image, and can only save to my desktop or other locations, not automatically back into my lightroom.
I am using LR5 latest update, as well as CC2014
Below is the error message:
Line: 1 -> photoshop.notifyLightroomDocClosed ('lightroom-2.0', 'B53AFA39-A49B-4709-A9BD-0B6467C175C3', 'Macintosh HD:Users:BPexposures:Desktop:_DSC5962 as Smart Object-1.psd');

I was also having this issue, and I did some more searching and found this answer in the Adobe forums: Re: Photos from Lightroom 5 to Photoshop CC (2014) and back.... The issue appears to be caused by having not updated Lightroom to the latest version prior to having CC2014 installed (wow that's stupid). The trick seems to be to uninstall Photoshop CC2014 and to then reinstall it after having upgraded to Lightroom 5.5.

Smart Object in AE

Doing some animation work with a lot of vector elements that I am arranging in photoshop as smart objects. I like to comp my AE stuff in Photoshop, even though I do the detail vector work in Illustrator. Now, when working in AE...the PS composition still sees the smart object as a PS layer. If I want to make changes to that smart object, must I reopen the illustrator file, edit, save it, reopen PS file, update smart object, save PSD, update layer source in AE?
It seems like a heck of a lot of steps just to update a vector layer. Is there a way to quickly edit/access vector objects that have been arranged in Photoshop without having to jump through all these hoops or is there anyway that a smart object splits into layers in AE?

I use your workflow all the time because I'm always having to bring PSD files into AE that have been created with smart vector objects. Edit original opens Photoshop, double click on vector smart object opens Illustrator, modify and save in AI, Save in Photoshop, and then the object is updated in AE. Not an awful extra step but a required one.
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You can even take this a step further by setting a keyframe for a mask path, copying that, then creating a new shape layer with the pen tool, setting a path keyframe, and then paste from the copied mask to the created shape keyframe. Now you have access to all of the cool shape layer tools like Repeater, Pucker and Bloat and the others. There's also a script out there somewhere that converts masks to shape layers.
If your original PSD file was imported supporting layer styles you can open up the layer you are replacing Copy the layer styles, and then paste them to the shape layer.

Smart Object Opens Blank Page

I'm trying to get to the bottom of a strange phenomenon with Smart Object editable text in Photoshop. If I import text as a smart object I can double-click on that layer and it opens in Illustrator where I can edit the text, save it back and it updates in Photoshop. This is broken on some machines in our office. On OS X Leopard this feature works flawlessly. On OS X Snow Leopard it does not. And on some machines with OS X Lion it works and others it does not. Anyone else double-clicking on a smart object of text only to get a blank document in Illustrator with no paths and nothing on the pasteboard? CS5 Design Premium. Adobe experts, please advise.
Perplexed, Dave

Apparently the solution for me, at least today, was a result of clearing Font caches. We use FontExplorer X Pro 3.1.1. It has some feature sets in it's Tools menu to Clean Application Font Caches in Microsoft and Adobe products. I ran that and a full System font-cache-clear and now I can edit text from a placed Photoshop smart object in Illustrator CS5 on Snow Leopard.

Resizing a circular smart object in CS6 results in flat sides

Resizing a circular smart object in CS6 results in flat sides, whereas in CS5 the sides would remain rounded.
Both the images below were resized using Free Transform (Apple+T) and typing in a height of 88px for the dimensions of the circle. The dropshadow is a layer effect and the background is a solid colour.
This might not seem like a big deal to some people but for me it would mean I'd have to change my workflow and figure out a method of resizing to avoid the flat eges.
CS5:
CS6:
Any ideas?

I am able to replicate flat edges in both Photoshop CS5 and CS6 with the circular object occupying the full canvas, right to the edges, inside the smart object.
Photoshop CS5:
Photoshop CS6:
Here's the file if you want to look at it yourself:
http://Noel.ProDigitalSoftware.com/temp/RoundSmartObject.zip
Your workaround to getting square edges on downsized Smart Objects is always to leave a few pixels to spare around the edges of your Smart Object - i.e., don't trim it to the very edges.
-Noel

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