Smart Object management

I've tried searching for an answer to this with no luck.
Is there a way to get Smart Objects to work on a different disc besides your Startup on a Mac? I'd like to set up a stand-alone SSD to handle all Smart Object operations. Currently, I'm getting the "Start-up disc is almost full" warning a little too often. It even crashed PS one time. I know you can change the Scratch Disc very easily, but I don't see any way to change how Smart Objects are handled.
Thanks in advance.
Dave...
Photoshop CS6 13.1, Mac OSX 10.7.5

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You know what I think Adobe should do? Just had a brilliant, albeit unoriginal, business idea - sell computers. No, not manufacture hardware, just build and sell ready-to-deploy systems.
Think of Alienware - they peddle pimped out gamer machines. Well, we're not gamer dorks planted in our parents' basements shouting on headsets, we're pros that churn out the stuff and we want machines that annoy us as little as possible - in other words, scream like a banshee. Also, something I think I can say about the demographic, is that if it's a serious pro in question, their system is used primarily for Adobe software so why not create machines optimized for such. No, don't lock down the hardware like Dell did with their proprietary RAM. Use publicly available components.
If there was a computer perfectly calibrated for what I do, using the group of software I use the vast majority of the time, I'd want it. I'm not a DIY kind of guy. I don't like screwing with hardware upgrades, hardware problems, etc. It's a waste of my time. A smooth, ready-made solution available would be nice.
Could be a new branch of Adobe. Creating workstations with hardware specially developed maybe. And Adobe software engineers could develop the creative suite optimized but not requiring said hardware.
I know that with the new mercury engine, Adobe has put their stamp of approval on certain video cards. Why not go further - endorse a full set of hardware and use it for mega nuclear Adobe machines.
Hurry before these guys snap up the whole market!
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Ok, so the title of this post sounds confusing. First off, I created a graphic in Illustrator CS3. It is to be used on a web page created in Dreamweaver CS3. I want to be able to streamline the editing process by using the Smart Object linking feature between Dreamweaver and Photoshop CS3.
Obviously, the problem is, I cannot link the Photoshop source to Dreamweaver because the source is not a Photoshop file, it is in Illustrator. The obvious solution to that is to export the Illustrator file as a Photoshop file. The problem with that is, I want to maintain the source in Illustrator and make edits in Illustrator.
So, my solution was to place the Illustrator file in Photoshop and make the Illustrator file a Smart Object in Photoshop. Then link that Photoshop file to the Dreamweaver page. So, basically, Photoshop is just the link between Dreamweaver and Illustrator. It works well! I click the little edit button in Dreamweaver abd it calls up the file in Photoshop. Then I double-click on the Smart Object layer in Photoshop and the source comes up in Illuistrator.
Now, here is the problem. To add to the confusion, I maintain versioning in Version Cue. So whenever I change the Illustrator file, I check it in to Version Cue. The Illustrator file I linked to in Photoshop is the local file on my computer. This file is syncronized with the version of the file that gets uploaded to Version Cue. This may sound complicated, but to see how I did it is pretty straight forward.
My assumption was, when I double clicked on the Smart Object layer in Photoshop, I would get the local copy of the Illustrator file to edit. But, that wasn't the case. Problem is, I got a temp file of the Illustrator graphic and NOT the original source file I linked to in Photoshop.
I can still edit the temp file and have those changes automatically made in Photoshop and then update the image in Dreamweaver. BUT, when I got to check in the new edits of the Illustrator file to Version Cue, it wants to create a new file and not rev-up to the new version of the original file. That's because the file I'm checking in is NOT the original file, it is a temp file.
Does anyone else use a workflow like this? If so, how do you do it?

Ok, so far I have come up with this solution. Usually after editing the Illustrator file I would check it in. But, as mentioned, I can't just do that because the file I'm editing is the temp file and not the original file syncronized with Version Cue.
So, instead of using Check-In when I'm done, I can use Save As... I can then overwrite my local file that is syncronized with Version Cue. That will save the new file as the correct name and automatically check it into Version Cue as the next version of the correct file.

Open as "Smart Object" from ACR to PS questions.

I have 2 questions associated with opening from ACR as a Smart Object in Photoshop. I'm using CS4.
1. Is there a way to retrieve the original filename (complete with path) using a script or a setting somewhere to do this? I'm currently using Bridge Talk to ask Bridge what the active folder is then adding that to the document's .name property and taking off the " as Smart Object-1" part. Then I add a .psd extension to it and then I have to save it to retain that name unless there's an answer to #2 below.
2. Is there a way to change the Document's name as described above from "Filename as Smart Object-1" to "Filename.psd" without actually saving it?
It seems to me there would be a simple way that I might be overlooking here.
Thanks
Mike

Sorry, I guess I need to explain better.
I wrote a script to do this, but here is this portion of the workflow:
1. Open CR2 file in ACR and make adjustments.
2. Open as Smart Object in PS.
3. Script Events Manager activates this script on Document Open, checks to see if it was opened as a Smart Object. We'll assume it did.
4. The script asks me if I want to make another layer. I pick yes. The script copies the SO layer, sets an inverted mask, and opens to edit settings in ACR again.
5. I adjust the settings for that layer in ACR and click OK.
The script will keep looping between 4 and 5 as long as I pick YES.
This gives me more local control of areas. If I want to bring out eyes a bit, I can up contrast, saturation, sharpness, brightness, exposure, or whatever looks best for the eyes in ACR, then unmask the eyes as much as I want on that layer in Photoshop. There is more data to pull from in the RAW file vs trying to do the same thing within Photoshop.
Opening as a regular image file then converting to a SO doesn't give me the same control. I would have to reopen the file separately, make the adjustments in ACR, open to PS then copy that document and paste as a new layer in the original.
Duplicating the document might work also, but I can also just save as .psd at that point since I'd have to know the path name by then anyway. I'll give that a try, though, and see if it might work better. The only catch with the save part is it slows me down waiting for it to write the file and if I have 5+ SO layers, it takes awhile. Once I unmask where I want, I flatten to a rasterized layer and continue.
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Documents with Smart Objects - Very slow to open and Save - CS6 Photoshop

When opening and saving documents with smart objects photoshop freezes the adobe PS loader (circle dots) is replaced and the system loader (multi colored wheel of death) spins for 30 seconds or more.
What I've tried so far based off looking at various posts.
Photoshop Preferenes
Save in Background off
Maximise PSD and PSB file compatability never
Cache Tile Size: 128k
Advanced Graphic Processor Settings: Basic & Normal
Layer Panel options: No Thumbnail
Observations and workthroughs to date
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These files worked perfectly in PS CS5
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The CPU is maxing out at 100% while PS loads
Closing or opening suitcase has no effect.
System:
iMac 27-inch, Mid 2011
Processor 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7
Memory 16 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
Graphics AMD Radeon HD 6970M 1024 MB
Mac OS X Lion 10.7.5 (11G63)
Suitcase 4
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A solution!
It turns out the problem in my case was in fact Suitcase. Previously, I'd tried turning it off, but that didn't fix the problem, so this time, I uninstalled it completely and the problem disappeared. I then began re-adding it (installed 15.0.1, upgraded it, etc.) and the problem resurfaced with the addition of the Photoshop-specific plugin. Deleting that plugin solved the problem. So it seems that "disabling" Suitcase by stopping the TypeCore doesn't seem to actually disable all of the tentacles it sticks into your system.
You can find the plugin here: Applications / Adobe Photoshop CS6 / Plug-ins / Automate / ExtensisFontManagementPSCS6.plugin
(After a restart, I also had to delete the font cache, as described here http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/troubleshoot-fonts-photoshop-cs5.html but your mileage may vary.)
Alternately, if you don't want to delete the plugin, disabling it from within Photoshop seems to work as well. To do that, go to File > Automate > Extensis, click Preferences..., then deselect Enable Suitcase Fusion 4 Auto-Activation.
Fortunately, the plugin doesn't seem necessary at all to use the the core functionality of Suitcase (enabling and disabling fonts) in Photoshop. I didn't even know what these app-specific plugins did until researching this problem, and I still don't quite understand the point of them. I guess they allow you to let the apps for which they're installed do a little bit more of their own management (enable a font via Suitcase that isn't enabled system-wide), but that seems like more control than I need--if I'm enabling a font, I want all my software to be able to use it.
Anyway, the problem seems to be completely solved on my system now, though I just did all this, so more testing over the next few days is required. I'll post here if any issues crop up. I'm interested in hearing if this solves it for anyone else as well.

How open and copy smart object

Hi,
I read topics about smart objects but i not found solution on my problem.
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Thanks

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Photoshop CS6, Free Transform & interpolation on Smart Objects

Hi,
I'm really frustrated with this, since in all the previous versions this problem was not present.
When I try to scale down a Smart Object, by using the Free Transform tool, I get over-sharped edges. I suspect this is an interpolation issue. Mind you when I do the same on a raster layer I can overcome it since there is an option box where I can choose interpolation method.

flamestudios wrote:
That worked for me, even if I would prefer to be able to choose interpolation method when I transform Smart Object layers, just like you can on raster ones.
That not an option and its never an option using DOM scripting code you need to retrieve the users interpolation method set the one you want to use and then restore the users preference. Adobe even broke that in CS6. If you try the retrieve the user preference and it set to "Bicubic Automatic" which happens to be Adobe's default setting CS6 script encounters an internal error. If you catch the error and you can know the user setting is "Bicubic Automatic" If you change the setting your unable to restore the users setting for like you can not retrieve "Bicubic Automatic" using DOM code you can not set it with DOM code. Perhaps you can with Action Manager scriptlistener code. I'll give Adobe some more time to fix this before adding special code into my scripts to get around the CS6 problem.

Get raw original out of my smart object?

How do you separate a smart object from the camera raw parent? I dont really need all those megabytes for this file.
I dont want to rasterize tho cuz I want my mask and re-edits available.
I can do a circuitous thing of copy the layer, rasterize, make new smart object, copy mask over, and delete primary layer with raw image,
but isn't there a one-clik fix?

The raw file is embedded inside of the Photoshop file containing the Smart Object. It is not referenced on the outside (you REALLY don't want that considering how difficult the management of external links would be).
Look, the whole purpose of an embedded Smart Object raw file is to maintain the most flexible processing and image control right up to the point you want to flatten the file for use. If you don't want to flatten and thus render the Smart Object, I suspect you really don't want to be using Smart Objects in the first place.
Yes, embedding the raw file makes the resulting file bigger (too big in my opinion) but that's the price you pay for the flexibility down the road.
You may actually be better off learning how to use the Snapshot function inside of Camera Raw 5.2 and above if you want the ability to play with different raw settings and store them in the raw file's settings. You can render a couple of different snapshots into a regular layered file in Photoshop and blend them there. No, not the same flexibility as a SO but a lot smaller files if that matters so much to you.

"New Smart Object via copy" via JavaScript?

I'd like to know how to copy a smart object but, so every smart object is independent.
I know you can copy layers via layer.duplicate() but that function just copies a instance of the object instead of creating a new object. So how would you do it?

Install Scriptlisener Plugin and do menu layer>Smart Objects>New Smart Object via Copy
javascript action manager code looks like this
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RGB and Smart Objects

When I place separate images into my CMYK master document, should I be placing them as smart objects and preserving their RGB values? Is there any benefit or detriment to doing that? I imagine it's good to preserve the RGB values, but if I am always going to print to a CMYK press with that particular document, then does it benefit me in any way? I've shied away from keeping the RGB values because I feel like they give me a false view of what the CMYK doc will turn out to look like. Any suggestions?

Stephanie:
I am not being unkind but there is SO much more to this subject than you currently begin to comprehend.
Let's start with your Color Management settings:
(gballard's web site, to which we directed you in your other thread, will be a great help to you in getting a better understanding of this subject.)
You simply MUST start with a properly calibrated and PROFILED monitor. That is non-negotiable so buy a spectrometer (Puck) if you don't already have one.
In your CM settings you have a selection of choices but if you are sending work to a Press, it is absolutely essential that you choose a CMYK Profile which is targeted to the KIND of Press and the type of Stock on which your job will run.
And of course you can, and SHOULD, create your document in a recognized RGB working space (either ProPhoto or Adobe RGB but NOT sRGB) and embed that Profile into your document because you then have the flexibility to CONVERT that RGB file to the correct CMYK Profile for the job.
And your Printing Company has some terms of reference, and the means of rectifying your file, if your CMYK conversion does not meet the requirements of their Presses.
Next, you need to learn to use Soft Previews.
You should set your proposed CMYK Profile as your Preview Profile (in Photoshop's View menu/Proof Set-up/Custom) making sure that you have checked "Simulate Paper Color".
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Smart Objects: RGB inside CMYK

Just two days before completing a two week job the client decided (still dont know why) the job had to be delivered with open layers on CMYK.
After two weaks and 6 jobs and hundred of layers latter had almost all work done..in RGB. I started to panic thinking of the time I would waste just appling curves,levels,etc... to every layer,while keeping things open if they wanted last minute changes.
Thats when it struck me..why not leaving everything as it was (RGB) and convert it to a smart object and then convert the parrent file to CMYK?
I has suprised how it works just fine.In the end the client agreed it was better to keep things as they were,but it sounds a really nice possibility and to some extend makes perfect sense as one would retain the full Gamut of RGB (AdobeRGB or any other) and could convert to proper CMYK acording to needs.
As anyone experienced this?

Mark -
There are a few gross errors in Photoshop that are seen as bugs, but go uncorrected for years due to the amount of work needed to fix them - not to mention - get it worked into the correction cycle in development. Marketing is steering the train. Go think about that oxymoron for a few weeks...
;o)
One major problem is the conundrum of being able to open an untagged file, assign a color space, then look at it. That in itself is counter intuitive and basically a HUGE hole in the application with respect to color management. With the new proposed architecture of creating the entire application Smart Photoshop - You not only eliminate this issue, but also have created a new and improved workflow - integrating source color images into the working space, tagged or untagged, with consistency for all. Adobe products are now far and wide enough to have the majority rule, so why not capitalize on it and implement a global workflow. This logic works for many industries Adobe serves. From 2d, 3d to motion video, cell phone, bio medical, and who knows what's next. It's image history preservation in its simple form.
In English, whittle down 9 options to 2 for color policies and change the logic between RGB and CMYK file handling. Convert to working space. Have the working space 32 bit Pro Photo RGB. Files flow into it as well as color space conversions. Now remember, this is a choice feature and not a force fit. It's a marketing born inception that caters to the masses for best practice. If you want to work outside that environment, its your choice, but it's not advisable unless you are resurrecting trash, re-assigning really bad pictures, or it does not work for your requirement and a new additional per-dim needs to be created. I'm offering a choice. Two choices to be specific. Road or off road travel. For here now, and tomorrow. It's a creature of growth, just like the implementation of Smart Objects that has morphed more possibilities as well as options. But Smart Objects is a representation of Adobe's expanded free for all mentality to push the envelope of development for market share. My advice is to back on the whizz bang wow factor and get some damn control of the features grained in deep rooted experience from power users....
Smart Photoshop is needed because users are not getting it Gentleman and Ladies. Expecting most users to become geeks is not going to happen. It's a given from a marketing stand point, but they refuse to see how to address it for one reason or another. Maybe too busy dealing with the company merge and product integration. Im pretty sure its quite an undertaking, but its time to make the best - better....
I remember Bruce Fraser talking about Chris and Thomas wanting 12 ish choices for color policies fearing too much restrain for growth. Thank you Bruce for 9, but my friend, we need even less.... Smart Photoshop gives 2 choices. Structure or Chaos. Right now we only have chaos. My vote is to have uniformity with very little user understanding and awareness. That's good implementation. The software has to become intelligent people.....
I'm game. Who has balls here?
nice to see ur pair Rich.

Smart objects and convert color profile behaviour

I get different results when converting to the same color profile before and after converting to smart object. Why?
Do the following:
1. create a cmyk document with color profile 'Euroscale Uncoated v2' and fill the document with the color 86, 32, 14, 0
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3. create a smart object -> the values stay the same, no color change on the monitor
4. create a second document like in step 1
5. create a smart object -> the values stay the same, no color change on the monitor
6. now change the color profile to 'Euroscale Coated v2' -> the values stay the same, this time we have a color change on the monitor
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I found this topic looking for an answer to this exact same problem.
Many of you refer to it as a bug / unexpected behaviour, which i thought it was either. But after some tests, it seems very logical behaviour actually to me now.
It simply follows the rules in the color settings.
In "Color Management Policies", when CMYK is set to "Preserve Embedded Profiles", it keeps the CMYK numbers for smart objects. Setting this to "Convert to Working CMYK" would make the color conversion as expected.
However, i don't think this would be a good idea (depending on your workflow offcourse). For example, pasting a 100K shape from a coated.icc illustrator file into an uncoated.icc photoshop file, as a smart object, would convert the 100K (not keeping the CMYK numbers).
I guess the workarround with a CMYK smart object into an RGB smart object (or maybe LAB), is ok to use when CMYK to CMYK conversion is really necessary for smart objects.

Working with a smart object

I just watched a tutorial for the new blurs in Photoshop CS6. They instructed to convert the pic to a smart object. But when I did that the iris, field and tilt shift blurs were not being allowed to be applied. Any suggestions as I am not that familiar with working with smart objects

DLW Photography NYC wrote:
I have 13.0.1
when I check for update it I get extension manager update 6.0.5 as the available update
The feature you want isn't in 13.0.1. You need Creative Cloud Photoshop 13.1.2 for Blur Gallery as Smart Filter attached to Smart Object.
http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/new-system-requirements-photoshop-131.html
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Photoshop animated smart object to Flash??

Hey All,
I could use a little help here, I am working on this project for a company and they need it to be animated. I tried using Photoshop's animation capabilities, but could only go so far with that. So I'm working on it in flash now. I have managed to import the scene I was working on in Photoshop to flash, but I can't seem to figure how to get the animated smart object (with a screen layer blending mode) to come across in flash. I'm sure there is some super simple way of doing this, but I can't think of one. I've got years of experience with Photoshop, but little time with Flash.
When I import the PSD file to Flash I am selecting the animated smart object layer as "Bitmap image with editable layer styles" selected, and have it also selected to be a movie clip. But it only shows up as a static layer without the screen blending like it was in Photoshop. What am I doing wrong here?
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Paul

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Batch converion to PS smart objects from ACR 4.2

I want to open a bunch of raw files in ACR 4.2 from Bridge and create PhotoShop smart objects from them. I tried to do this by selecting the files in Bridge and opening them all in ACR. This is where I got stuck.
- If I click "Open Object" one file is opened in Photoshop and I can save it as a Smart Object. This works but is very slow for 50-100 images. Also, I found a bug that truncates the filename so I have to manually fix each one.
- If I click "Save Image" the images save as regular images, not as smart objects. The "Save Image..." button apparently saves only regular images, not smart objects, and I can't find any way to change the label to "Save Object..." or otherwise change the mode.
I've set the options at the bottom to "Open in PhotoShop as Smart Objects" (as I said, the Open command will create the smart object) but can't anyway to make the "Save Image" command actually save objects.
Is there a way to do this or is it a limitation with smart objects in ACR?
Environment: PS CS3, ACR 4.2, Bridge 2.1, Windows XP 64 bit with all updates installed for each.

Sorry, I guess I need to explain better.
I wrote a script to do this, but here is this portion of the workflow:
1. Open CR2 file in ACR and make adjustments.
2. Open as Smart Object in PS.
3. Script Events Manager activates this script on Document Open, checks to see if it was opened as a Smart Object. We'll assume it did.
4. The script asks me if I want to make another layer. I pick yes. The script copies the SO layer, sets an inverted mask, and opens to edit settings in ACR again.
5. I adjust the settings for that layer in ACR and click OK.
The script will keep looping between 4 and 5 as long as I pick YES.
This gives me more local control of areas. If I want to bring out eyes a bit, I can up contrast, saturation, sharpness, brightness, exposure, or whatever looks best for the eyes in ACR, then unmask the eyes as much as I want on that layer in Photoshop. There is more data to pull from in the RAW file vs trying to do the same thing within Photoshop.
Opening as a regular image file then converting to a SO doesn't give me the same control. I would have to reopen the file separately, make the adjustments in ACR, open to PS then copy that document and paste as a new layer in the original.
Duplicating the document might work also, but I can also just save as .psd at that point since I'd have to know the path name by then anyway. I'll give that a try, though, and see if it might work better. The only catch with the save part is it slows me down waiting for it to write the file and if I have 5+ SO layers, it takes awhile. Once I unmask where I want, I flatten to a rasterized layer and continue.
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