Smart Object Selection Highlight

Anyone know how to disable border highlighting when selecting a smart object in the layers panel? Designing pixel-to-pixel is cumbersome when the highlight appears and temporarily extends the size of the shape by 1 px. It's just a bit of a nuissance.

Are you talking about the path showing for a shape layer?
You can't disable it by default. That's what we southern boys sometimes like to call a "design shortcoming".
Edit: Oops, it seems I neglected to read Brett's comment, just above. I may have been wrong about this.
Nah, on second thought it comes back on and sticks. It's definitely a design shortcoming.
You can hide it after you've selected the layer to work on the shape by clicking the path icon in the Properties panel.
-Noel

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CC 2014 smart object selection crash

Windows 7 64
24 Mb Ram on Xeon hex core
GFX : Geforce 680 - latest driver
Wacom Intuos 3 - latest driver
Image: 16 bit PSD 19x13 inches @240 dpi (456 MB)
When selecting an area in a smart object and copying it to a new layer, Photoshop CC 2014 displays the dialogue that it has stopped working.
The faulting module is Photoshop.exe version 15.0.0.58 Exception code: 0xc0000005.
Photoshop CC does not crash when carying out the same procedure.
UPDATE: in fact, it's crashing on pretty much every function in 16 Bit mode. I've tried several images to ensure that the original occurrence wasn't with a corrupted image.
All suggestions greatly appreciated.
Thanks.

This issue has not resolved itself. Photoshop CC 2014.1.0 is now so unstable that I cannot use it.
The "Photoshop has stopped working" dialogue seems to be invoked when selecting areas . I think my original post observation that it was a smart object error was wrong. It seems to be more general.
The vertical red lines appear when reversing the history state. I have updated the nVidia GTX 680 driver to 340.52 and changed the graphics processor settings from "advanced" to "normal"
Files are 16 bit RGB, 300 MB.
Here is the Windows crash data
Event Data
Photoshop.exe
   15.1.0.148
   53d97a8f
   Photoshop.exe
   15.1.0.148
   53d97a8f
   c0000005
   00000000012ed732
   574
   01cfd18fdc816d67
   C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2014\Photoshop.exe
   C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2014\Photoshop.exe
   cd397a34-3d83-11e4-998a-d067e5e73dea
All suggestions extremely welcome.

Smart Object Selection

Why does making a selection inside of a smart object (say with the rectangular marquis tool) disable Free Transform?

There seems to be an inconsistency in the interface because when other targets which can only be entirely transformed are accompanied by a selection, there is no prevention of Free Transform. Even a pair of SO can be transformed when there is a selection.

How do i adjust layers below a Shadows/Highlights smart object layer

Hi
In Photoshop CC I have created a number of layers for smart tonal adjustments.
I then created a Smart object Shadow/Highlight layer base upon a copy of all layers below.
However my layers below can no longer be altered as the Shadow/Highl;ight layer is a copy of them.
Is there away to allow me to stack the layers so that i can still make adjustments to my layers below after have created a Shadow/Highlight layer.
Seems impossible.

You can stack SOs pretty much for ever. Just right click the SO with the Shadow/Highlight adjustment, and turn it into a Smart Object. Then you can add a layer mask to make parts of the underlying layers visible. But you mainly need to manage your workflow to avoid this situation, or use the SO as a new Background Layer, and carry on working from there. That is how I tend to work.
Incidentally, as you have CC, do consider using Camera RAW as a filter, on a SO layer, in preference to Shadow/Highlight. S/H was always portrayed as Photoshop magic, but in actual fact it produces nasty artefacts and makes an image look unreal and plastic. When the Camera RAW engine was updated with the Process Version 2012 (PV2012) with version 7.#, it took a big step forward, and allowed drastic use of the sliders without the nasty artefacts this would have cause with earlier versions. AFAIK S/H was not updated, and IMO should have a little skull and crossbones next to it in the Image > Adjust menu. Or better still, removed altogether.

Rasterizing smart objects, 3 methods?

Hi folks. There are 3 ways to rasterize a smart object.
With the smart object selected in the layers palette:
1) Layer > Rasterize > Layer
2) Layer > Rasterize > Smart Object
3) Layer > Smart Objects > Rasterize
There is of course a 4th possibility directly from the layers palette, which - being another location - is justified, but 3 menu items ?
Question: Are the 3 menu items identical (CONCERNING smart objects! ... I know someone will try to point out that rasterize > layer is a more general case)? If no, what exactly is the difference? If yes, shouldn't the menu be more streamlined then (in CS3 in my case) ?

I personally see no problem in the multiple locations:
For the Rasterize-menu-item to display which kind of layer one is dealing with seems no bad idea.
And the Smart Object-menu-item not offering the option would seem strange.
But the result would indeed appear to be the same.
Anyway You could always turn them off under Edit – Menus.

Trying to crop layer, getting "Can't complete because smart object not editable" message

Using PSE v9 on a Mac
I have a layer with an image that I want to crop around an element on the image. I've selected the area and inversed, then hit delete (why isn't there just a 'Crop' command?) and am getting a message that says:
"Could not complete your request because the smart object is not directly editable."
I'm not clear what a smart object is and whey they're not editable, and how I can make this editable, and how does that change the image.
Thanks
doug

You don't won't to crop the whole photo, just delete the area from the layer
that you've selected?
Two ways:
1. Go to Layer>Simplify Layer before using delete.
2. If you want to keep the smart object, select the area you want to keep, not
delete, then hit the Add Layer Mask button at the bottom of the layers panel.
A smart object is usefull for resizing an image layer over and over without losing
quality (the image doesn't pixelate like it does on a non smart object)
If your not planning on doing lots of resizing or transforming on the layer, then removing
the smart object by Layer>Simplify Layer won't make much difference.
MTSTUNER

Very new to photoshop I am trying to make changes to a photo and set it up as a smart object but after selecting smart object, the checkerboard appears and my photo dissppears

Very new to photoshop I am trying to make changes to a photo and set it up as a smart object but after selecting smart object, the checkerboard appears and my photo dissppears

Hello, thank you so much for your response! Here are some screenshots of my steps taken

Why can't I open the filter gallery in Photoshop CC 2014? I've converted the photo layer into a smart object, but the filter gallery selection is still grayed out.

Why can't I open the filter gallery in Photoshop CC 2014? I've converted the photo layer into a smart object, but the filter gallery selection is still grayed out. How do I make it active?

Please go to Help, System Info and Copy then paste here.
Benjamin

Smart Object - Cropping on a Layer via Select- Inverse- Backspace

OK, I have learned that you can't "Crop" on a layer, but instead should use the Select->Inverse->Backspace procedure to essentially "crop" a photo. But this procedure does not work on a Smart Object photo.
I have also found out that if you Simplify the Smart Object, the above cropping procedure works.
So now I need some help on understanding what I lose when I go from a Smart Object to a Simplified Object. It appears that I can still resize, rotate, etc. the photo, so what am I missing.

Michel- I guess everything is not as good as I thought. I guess I mis-read the "Copy to Layer" (cropped) image as still being a Smart Object (when my wife did it), but this morning when I repeated the procedure, I ended up with a Simplified cropped image.
So the effect is the same -- i.e. either way you end up with a Simplified cropped image (whether you do a Layer->Simplify Layer and then do a Select->Inverse->Backspace OR you merely outline the area you want cropped with the rectangle and then do a "Copy from Layer).
And even I can see if I want to do any significant resizing (enlarging that is), I need to be working with a Smart Object because the Simplified start pixilating very quickly when enlarged.
I also think I finally figured what the little boxes in the lower right corner of the Layer palette icon is -- it indicates Smart Object, right. I didn't see that explained anywhere. Also, more education is needed in the Help Documentation about Smart Objects. Thanks for your initial response -- and these forums are life savers.

Manually set height of selected objects / smart objects

This might be a dumb question, considering how many years I've been using Photoshop, but ....
I was lining up and resizing these smart objects, each on its own layer. Typically I simply layout a guide and drag it but I was wondering if there is a way to set an exact height? When you first drag an object you see the height adjusting as a percentage, but once done you see it at 100% if you click again. Just wondering if I could set an exact height numerically somewhere.

Thanks. You'd think after all these years I'd have known. Maybe I did at one time (getting old). When there are many ways to do a thing you sometimes 'work around' a gap in knowledge to 'just get it done' and forget to ask the question "is there an easier way".

Open as Smart Object as Layers in Photoshop?

I apologize if this has been addressed already, but I am looking for a way to open Smart Objects as LAYERS. I do compositing work and would like to retain as much information as possible by using Smart Objects PRIOR to going into Photoshop. My current workflow is to highlight the photos in Lightroom CC > Open as Smart Object in Photoshop CC > Manually Drag layers from each open file in Photoshop to main PSD.
Edit - Opening as Layers in Photoshop then applying the Camera Raw Filter is not a good work around, information is lost.

davepinminn wrote:
I must still be doing something wrong here..............
You have the wrong expectation—namely because you don't grasp the concept. A smart object is not a linked file. It's a new file all on its own (in PSB format) with no connection to the original file at all.
davepinminn wrote:
…I can open my raw (.dng) into Photoshop as a smart object. And in PS, I can open the smart object into ACR. Works fine. And I can change stuff. For example, if I change the exposure from -.25 to +.20, it changes perfectly in PS, as I'd expect. But, I'm still not getting the changes back to the original raw (.dng) file…
There is no reason why the changes made to a Smart Object oject should be refleftef to a totally unrelated file.
davepinminn wrote:
…Do I need to do something different to get the changes back to the original file…
Yes. you have to go back to that original file and apply the changes directly to it. In a previous post, Jeff Schewe told you of a shortcut to achieve that:
Jeff Schewe wrote:
When you are in the Camera Raw SO with ACR open, go to the main flyout menu and select Export settings to XMP. This will write the new image settings from the SO to the xmp metadata. Then in Lightroom, select Read metadata from file in the main Metadata menu. That will bring in all the settings of the raw SO back into Lightroom. So, while not automatic, it's not as bad as writing down the settings and entering them by hand.

How to change default HDR toning with 32 bit smart object - 16 bit, when not merging

Suppose I have just done this:
Opened a RAW file as a 16-bit smart object through camera raw, so I can easily go back and change raw parameters if needed
Converted the document to 32 bit mode
Set 32-bit preview mode to Highlight Compression
Added a Curves layer and fiddled with the sliders until satisfied
So far so good.
Now what I would like to do is envelope/convert these two layers into a smart object, and then change the mode to 16 bit with a Highlight compression method, but WITHOUT merging the smart object. Merging leaves me with one flattened non-smart layer. Obviously I don't want to merge, because all the smartness of the previous (32 bit) smart object, and I cannot go back to the equally smart raw file.
For a demonstration: http://tv.adobe.com/watch/russell-brown-at-photoshop-world-2011-orlando/smart-object-32-bi t-hdr-editing-techniques/
After chosing "merge layers", an impressive dialog box is displayed with 4 toning methods. When NOT merging, nothing is displayed, and Exposure/Gamma seems to be silently used. Fine in some cases, but not now. It seems one cannot change that, or choose another one of the 4 methods. But perhaps someone has figured out a way to "will" it in another direction?
Thanks for your help!

Yes sorry about that, I may have been a bit brief indeed:
I'm using Photoshop CS5, x64, latest patch (12.0.4). And ACR 6.4.1 to open a Raw file as a smart object in Photoshop.
Step 2: correct, I used Image->Mode->32bit
Step 3: I set the 32bit preview mode by clicking View->32-bit Preview Options->Highlight Compession
Setp 4: I'm mistaken here, I added a Levels layer, because Curves are indeed unavailable in 32 bit mode.
While I'm at it:
Step 5: Then, I would select these 2 layers in the layers pane and convert them to a smart object (right click in layers pane -> convert to smart object)
Step 6: Next step would be Image->Mode->16-bit. It would then ask to have the layers merged or not before changing bit depth. Only if you choose merge, the HDR toning dialog box would appear, from which you can select Exposure&Gamma, Highlight Compession, Local Adaptation and so on.
I don't want to merge, because it will destroy the smart object containing the Levels layer and the original raw file (in a smart object)
So I select "Don't merge". It doesn't show the HDR toning dialog, and goes straight in 16-bit mode. But what toning mode did it choose? By comparing the result you get when not merging, to the result when one does merge, it appears a default toning mode of Exposure&gamma is chosen. That's not what I want, because I would like to have Highlight Compression.
But where can I change this behaviour?

Smart Object import from Illustrator to Photoshop ( CS5 )

Hello !
Here's the thing:
I have an icon in Illustrator and I'm designing a website in Photoshop so I copy and paste that icon as a Smart Object in Photoshop and everything is perfect but when I resize that Smart Object is not perfect anymore.
*The document is 200 %
-The first icon is the original file I import from Illustrator and It's 100%
-I resize the second icon to 70%
Now look at those gray light lines around the second icon. Why is that happening ? How can I fix it ?
Thanks !
PS: Sorry for my English I just speak a little bit.

Hi, again, Sunniess.
Now look at those gray light lines around the second icon. Why is that happening ? How can I fix it ?
You may be sorry you asked. I didn't have time to bore you with the answer to that earlier.
The gray lines are being generated in Ps, so this should be of interest to anyone who works with small images in Ps.
When you export from Illy using the clipboard, Illy rounds to the nearest whole pixel. A rounded rectangle is created in Illy measuring 73x30 pixels. If you scale the rectangle 70% in Illy, the new rectangle measures 51.1 x 21 pixels. But it pastes into Ps as 51x21 pixels.
If you import the 73x30 pixel image into Ps and scale 70% , instead of 51x21 pixels, you will get either 52x21, 53x21, 52x23 or 53x23 pixels, depending on where the Reference point locator (highlighted below) is set in the Transform Toolbar. The gray lines are the extra pixels.
Why the extra pixels? The extra pixels are a form of dithering. When you scale the 73x30 imported image 70% in Ps, you get 51.1 x 21 pixels, same as in Illy. But Ps doesn't round to the nearest pixel. It creates fractional pixels. In the screenshot below, the rectangle is rendered 52x21. The lines at top and bottom are sharp because the pixel height is a whole integer, 21. But the width is 51.1. There's a decimal fraction. The gray vertical bar at right is how Ps represents fractional pixels. The .1 of 51.1. Ps can't actually make .1 of a pixel black. So instead it makes 1 pixel .1 black by assigning 10% opacity.
If the Reference point locater is set as below, you get a different result. Now the rectangle renders at 53x23 pixels. You now have gray rows of pixels at top and bottom, as well as both sides. The height is still really 21 pixels, but since it is transforming from the center and it's an odd number, Ps splits a pixel, assigning .5 black pixels at the top, and .5 black pixels at the bottom, which it represents with 2 rows of pixels at 50% opacity. Similar thing with the ends, except they are lower opacity because they represent smaller fractions of a pixel. This pretty much reproduces what your icon looks like.
Below is a closeup of the above rectangle over a blue background. The rows of pixels aren't actually gray. They are semi transparent black.
The point is, how the Reference point locator is set can have unexpected influence on the results, particularly when downsizing small images. And will be most noticable on straight vertical or horizontal edges.
As if that weren't enough, there are options in your General Preferences that affect the results of resizing images.
I copied and pasted your icon into Ps, then scaled it 70% at two different settings.
The top is Bicubic, the botttom is Nearest Neighbor.
A significant difference. And this interacts with the Transform Locator setting to further confuse the issue. But if you resize in Illy you avoid all this.
If you resize in Ps, it's good to be aware of this stuff. This all happens in Ps. It really has nothing to do with Illy. If you must scale in Ps and get noticable rows of fractional pixels, it's easy enough to select the rows and just delete them. Or fill them. That's essentially what Illy does when it copies to the clipboard.
Your English is fine. I hope mine makes as much sense.
Peace,
Lee

Photoshop Smart Object

I've been studying photoshop and as I walk through one tutorial, it starts with Select "Convert to Smart Object". I have PSE8 and an iMac. I can't seem to find that function. Doing a Goggle search, I'm thinking that Smart Objects are for the CS Version and NOT PSE(8). Is this right ... or .. am I missing something.

Barbara ... I was just following a number of examples provided in a Digital Wedding Photography book. The example was on the simple "shadows and highlights". I know how to do that by going to Enhance > Adjust Lighting > Shadows/Highlights. But when the Step 1 stated Select6 "Convert to Smart Object", it just threw me. Now I know why I didn't connect with it.
Thanks for your help

Open as linked smart object

Hello,
iam looking for a solution to open files in a folder
and copy then into a document.
Its working good, but i need the files to be linked smart object.
Anyone knows a solution ?
Here my Code so far:
See in line 33. Convert to smart object: ?
var file = new File('C:/User_MY PATH.PSD'),
docRef = open(file);
// Use the path to the application and append the samples folder
var samplesFolder = Folder('C:/USERS_MY FOLDER');
//Get all the files in the folder
var fileList = samplesFolder.getFiles()
// open each file
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if (fileList[i]instanceof File)
open(fileList[i])
// use the document name for the layer name in the merged document
var activeDocName = app.activeDocument.name;
var targetDocName = activeDocName.substring(0, activeDocName.lastIndexOf("."));
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//convertToSmartObject(); THIS ISNT WORKING - CONVERT IT ?
app.activeDocument.selection.copy()
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app.activeDocument.close(SaveOptions.DONOTSAVECHANGES)
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doc.activeLayer = doc.artLayers.getByName("bgr");
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app.activeDocument.paste()
app.activeDocument.activeLayer.name = targetDocName

Use scriptlistener:
var idPlc = charIDToTypeID( "Plc " );
    var desc2 = new ActionDescriptor();
    var idnull = charIDToTypeID( "null" );
    desc2.putPath( idnull, new File( "C:\\Photos\\myPhoto.psd" ) );
    var idLnkd = charIDToTypeID( "Lnkd" );
    desc2.putBoolean( idLnkd, true );
    var idFTcs = charIDToTypeID( "FTcs" );
    var idQCSt = charIDToTypeID( "QCSt" );
    var idQcsa = charIDToTypeID( "Qcsa" );
    desc2.putEnumerated( idFTcs, idQCSt, idQcsa );
    var idOfst = charIDToTypeID( "Ofst" );
        var desc3 = new ActionDescriptor();
        var idHrzn = charIDToTypeID( "Hrzn" );
        var idPxl = charIDToTypeID( "#Pxl" );
        desc3.putUnitDouble( idHrzn, idPxl, 0.000000 );
        var idVrtc = charIDToTypeID( "Vrtc" );
        var idPxl = charIDToTypeID( "#Pxl" );
        desc3.putUnitDouble( idVrtc, idPxl, 0.000000 );
    var idOfst = charIDToTypeID( "Ofst" );
    desc2.putObject( idOfst, idOfst, desc3 );
executeAction( idPlc, desc2, DialogModes.NO );

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