Smart objects and filters in elements 10-how to?

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The main use of Smart Objects is to embed an image file into a PSD so that it can maintain resolution independence. This means you can non-destructively transform (scale, rotate, skew) the layer without losing the quality of the orignal file. You can still change the opacity or blend mode of a Smart Object layer and apply Layer Styles from the Effects panel as well. So Smart Objects allow for true non-destructive editing in Elements, but not with the sophistication of Photoshop CSx.
Whether or not Viveza works with Photoshop Elements 10 is up to the manufacturer of the plug-in.

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How can I duplicate a smart object and then edit it, without affecting the original?

I have a vector element from illustrator that I am placing in a tshirt mockup in photoshop. I have the layout essentially how I would like, but I am trying different color variations. I would think to just duplicate the first placement and then edit the color of the resulting copy, but this affects both the copy and the original. I looked into it a bit further, and found that I should try the "replace contents" option under smart objects, and that this would change the copy. So I go back to illustrator, made a copy of the original vector, and then made the color change I had in mind, and then saved it as a separate document that I could then use in replacing the contents of the copied. This however, is still affecting both smart objects!
I have tried this as both linked smart objects and embedded smart objects without success.
Ultimately, I simply want to maintain the position of the original layer with the duplicated and edited layers. If you know of a better way, please share!

I'm on CC on a Mac.
What 21 is talking about is making some sense.
I am able to create new smart object via copy, then create a variation on the original file linked in the parent smart object. Then I save that from illustrator with a different file name. Then I go back to photoshop and replace contents of the new smart object, linking it to the newer illustrator file.
This gets around the problem, but it takes a few more steps than the same thing did it in earlier versions of photoshop.

How can I convert a layer into a smart object with Adobe Photoshop Elements 10?

How can I convert a layer into a smart object with Adobe Photoshop Elements 10?

That feature is only in PS. Elements as you buy it has only limited support for smart objects. If you use File>Place to add something to your image it will come in as a smart object (within the limits to which PSE understands smart layers). However, if you know someone who can write an action for you in PS you can install it in PSE, or you could look into something like elements+ from simplephotoshop.com.

Smart object layer from PS to AI. how to use??

I successfully work AI vector objects as placed objects into PS by copy pasting or file/place into a smart object layer in PS, I find value in making changes to my vector object dimensions in AI and seeing them updated in PS,
but I don`t know how to do it the other way, meaning a PS jpeg on a layer to AI as smart object, I choose an image on its own layer in PSCS4 and convert to smart object, I (right click) export the contents as jpeg smart object, and then back in AI go file/place the smartobject jpeg, when I make changes to the PSsmartobject in PS like colour shift or dimensions change nothing happens in AI,
I would like to have an image pasted from PS into AI whereby I can change colours and dimensions or add pixels like paint on that smartobject layer in PS and then have it update in AI...

To my knowledge Illustrator does not support smart objects. However it does support image linking. Which means if you update a image in photoshop, Illustrator will know the file has changed.
When placing the file, you will see a checkbox at the bottom of the open dialog box for link, make sure it is checked. When you update the file when Illustrator is running with that file opened, you will get a promt telling you the file has changed and asked you if you want to update the image.
If you choose not to update the image at that time, you can click on the linked file text in the top tool bar and update the image from there.
If the file is not open or Illustrator is not running then the file will update the next time you open the file.
Also you will find a edit original button in the top tool bar to take you back to what ever image editor is assigned to that file format.
To assign a file format to photoshop:
For this example we will use jpeg extention
1) Open windows explorer
2) Menu options tools>folder options>File types tab>scroll to jpeg and click on it
3) Click the advanced tab
4) see what actions are listed odds are only open and printo are listed
5) If Edit is not listed, click on the new button
6) For the action type EDIT
7) For the application used to perform action click the browse button
8) Browse for photoshop.exe
9) The following should now be in the application used to perform action box:
"C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CS3\Photoshop.exe" %1
The above file location is assuming you have CS3 and you used the default installation edit original button in Illustrator and the right mouse button menu in windows explorer will take you to photoshop to edit the file.
10) After you click OK you will see the new EDIT action in the list
11) Click OK and then click close to get out of all the dialog boxes
The action can be removed at any time or edited to use another application.

Can I place a smart object and specify a layer comp?

I have many buttons, each as a layer comp, in a single file.
I do this because there are many common elements: layers for the button base, shared features, button gloss, etc.
What changes is the icon on the button, and possibly a supporting label.
I want to place these buttons on objects in other files.
So, I'd like to Place the file as a smart object AND SPECIFY THE LAYER COMP for the proper button.
Anybody?
Or maybe there is another approach?
Much obliged!
Dave

I'm on CC on a Mac.
What 21 is talking about is making some sense.
I am able to create new smart object via copy, then create a variation on the original file linked in the parent smart object. Then I save that from illustrator with a different file name. Then I go back to photoshop and replace contents of the new smart object, linking it to the newer illustrator file.
This gets around the problem, but it takes a few more steps than the same thing did it in earlier versions of photoshop.

Bitmap smart objects and anti aliasing, Photoshop CC

Photoshop CC is doing a poor job of rendering bitmap smart objects, and I saw Chris Cox mention the checkbox to enable anti aliasing for placed smart objects. This works with vector smart objects, but this box is grayed out for bitmaps that I've converted to smart objects. The smart object bitmap renders poorly when manually rasterized too. I don't recall having this problem in previous versions of Photoshop. For now I'm going to avoid converting bitmap elements to smart objects so I get decent transforms.

There are no jagged lines in that example - you're just rasterizing at a REALLY low resolution.

Smart Object and blend mode issue

I have an object that I moved from another image and needed to resize. The object is an image of a bottle and glass, with both the bottle and glass having reflections from their base. They both also have some layer masks with the reflections. I grouped the glass and bottle and created a smat object before the move to the new file). Anyway everything worked fine, except the reflections are much stonger in the new file (they are sitting over the same colored backgrond as in the original. If I open up the smart object and put a background behind the images and the reflections (background is transparent)everthing looks as they should. The reflections have a blend mode of multiply).
So why does the smart object not render the reflections properly (without lowering the opacity more within the smart object group) they appear almost at 100% in the new file. Any suggestions?
Can't post the files as this happened at work.
Thanks
Jeff

Anything to do with soft proofing? Does the new document have the same colour space as the original?

Photoshop, smart objects and dynamic filters performance issues

Hello,
I am quite new to Photoshop, after several years with Capture NX 2 to process thousands of NEF and RW2 files (RAW from Nikon and Panasonic).
I use Photoshop to read RAW pictures, convert them to a smart object, then apply several dynamic filters, mainly from the Nik Collection (Dfine, Color Efex Pro, Sharperner Pro), sometimes Topaz Denoise. I do that with actions, so I can batch process many pictures.
But sometimes I have to manually adjust some settings, and this where I do not really understand the way Photoshop works. If I have to adjust let say the last filter on the stack, Photoshop reprocesses all the filters below, which can be very tedious as this takes lot of time.
Is there a way to tell Photoshop to keep all intermediate data in memory, so if you have to adjust one of the last filters the process starts immediately?
Any help would be greatly appreciate.
Frederic.

Thank you Chris.
I am surprised, as for years there has been a lot of discussions about Capture NX2 which was supposed to be slow. In fact, when using the same filters (+ Nik Color Efex), NX2 is much much faster than Photoshop, and when you have to make an adjustment in any of the setttings, you can do that immediateley.
Of course, Photoshop is completely opened and NX2 totally closed (and now not supported anymore).
But, I really don't know how to adapt my workflow, except buying the most powerful PC possible (I already have 2 which are quite powerful), and this will still be far from being comfortable. I am used to tune manually many many pictures (adjust noise reduction, sharpening, light, colors ...), and this was quite fast with NX2.
I am probably not on the correct forum for this, and I will try to investigate elsewhere.
Anyhow, thank you for your answer.
Frédéric

After loading a JPEG file into adobe CC as a smart object and trying to resize image I get big jagged edges around the picture.

Also, the anti-aliasing box isn't checked but is greyed out so I can't check it. How can I fix this issue? Thanks for any help!

Smart object layers transform like pixel layers. The resize may be using your default interpolation method. If you left it at Adobe default setting Bicubic Automativ and you are down sizing a sharpen image it may be using Bicubic Sharper. When Bicubic Sharper is used on sharpened image jagged artifacts may happen. Try changing your Photoshop Interpolation preference to plain bicubic. I'm not a fan of Bicubcr Automatic or Bicubic Sharper. I will use Bicubic Sharper when I re-size my soft unsharpen images for the web.

Smart Folders and Filtering based on Focal Length

Can we please be given the ability to create Smart Folders and be able to Filter images based on focal length?
Doing so based on Lens alone does not take into account that more and more people rely on zoom lenses. When you have 16-35, 27-70, 35-135 and 70-200 lenses, one could benefit from having the ability to search for images created in wide-angle, normal, zoom and tele-zoom ranges.
Providing this feature would be greatly appreciated.
Regards, JML

Thanks Colin, I will try it.
Sounds like it may work - however bit awkward solution in otherwise ergonomic LR environment :-(
I really do not understand why this value is not among the filtering metadata when LR recognizes it and shows it on every corner. Especially considering the fact LR is supposed to be full WF solution and certain development settings cannot be effectively applied without selecting images only with certain focal length values.
The very last feature I am missing on this SW designed to cover entire WF (since LR1) is the distortion/perspective control and ability to apply corrections based on lens/focal length used.
b Does anyone have an idea if Adobe plans to eventually implement this feature?
I do not want to be forced to use DxO which always means interruption of the WF and inevitably generated new files on disk.

Smart objects and rasterizing

I open most of my photos as smart objects, but over the last little while I have started using tools that require me to rasterize the photo. Will I lose significant quality in the photo itself by doing this? Or should I look at a different way of opening the pictures?

Where there was nothing, there will be nothing. You can't possibly destroy info that the source pictures didn't have in teh first place and a pixel remains a pixel, smart or rasterized. I mean, once you save the final result to another format, any SO will be rasterized and its result "baked" into the pixels of the file, anyway, so what do you even hope to achieve by opening them as SOs instead of inserting them as normal layers? SOs make sense, yes, but only if you do quite a bit of warping and transforming and one may need to replace layer content, but otehrwise that sounds like you are only complicating your workflow and misunderstanding something that would only apply to vector artwork as being relevant for pixel data....
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Smart objects and convert color profile behaviour

I get different results when converting to the same color profile before and after converting to smart object. Why?
Do the following:
1. create a cmyk document with color profile 'Euroscale Uncoated v2' and fill the document with the color 86, 32, 14, 0
2. change the color profile to 'Euroscale Coated v2' -> the values change to 73, 29, 16, 0, no color change on the monitor
3. create a smart object -> the values stay the same, no color change on the monitor
4. create a second document like in step 1
5. create a smart object -> the values stay the same, no color change on the monitor
6. now change the color profile to 'Euroscale Coated v2' -> the values stay the same, this time we have a color change on the monitor
Why don't I get the same result?

I found this topic looking for an answer to this exact same problem.
Many of you refer to it as a bug / unexpected behaviour, which i thought it was either. But after some tests, it seems very logical behaviour actually to me now.
It simply follows the rules in the color settings.
In "Color Management Policies", when CMYK is set to "Preserve Embedded Profiles", it keeps the CMYK numbers for smart objects. Setting this to "Convert to Working CMYK" would make the color conversion as expected.
However, i don't think this would be a good idea (depending on your workflow offcourse). For example, pasting a 100K shape from a coated.icc illustrator file into an uncoated.icc photoshop file, as a smart object, would convert the 100K (not keeping the CMYK numbers).
I guess the workarround with a CMYK smart object into an RGB smart object (or maybe LAB), is ok to use when CMYK to CMYK conversion is really necessary for smart objects.

Smart objects and auto update

I have a stack of screenshots to maintain, where what changes most often is the release information: so, I've made a separate .psd with the header and used File > Place to add it as a smart object. What I'm not having any luck with, is changing that single .psd file and seeing the update ripple through to all the screenshots. Tell me what I'm missing!

Maybe this is of interest to you.
http://www.ps-scripts.com/bb/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=3045&sid=70f368dca9bfd96f3c974ee11b798f9 7

Anti-Alias, Smart Objects and Photoshop

I'm using photoshop to create a poster for a client of mine. I placed vector graphics from illustrator into my photoshop document, creating smart objects. As you can see, below, it looks like an Anti-Aliasing issue, where jagged lines are EVERYWHERE. However, you can also observe that the text (created in photoshop) also appears to be fuzzy/jagged.
This issue can be seen on the print out, as well, so it doesn't appear to be anything in the preview...
The Anti-Aliasing option in the transform toolbar is greyed out for me. I've gone through all the settings and i can't seem to find anything that may do this to my file (and it only seems to be affecting this one file).
Version is as follows: 14.2.1 x64
Any and all help is greatly appreciated.

There are no jagged lines in that example - you're just rasterizing at a REALLY low resolution.

Smart Object And Action Question

I have a smart object layer in one document and I want to drag it over to another document and record this in an action. If I just drag it over, the action records it as select previous document. Copy and paste doesn't transfer the layer as a smart object.
Is there any way to do this in an action?
Thanks!

The place suggestion worked. It's too bad that it has to be so wasteful on space though. It looks like placing a file makes it a smart object which then contains the original smart object I wanted to transfer over.
Thanks!

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