Smart objects from PS CS5 being edited in AI CS4

I have both the CS4 and CS5 creative suits loaded on my machine.
Just recently when I edit smart objects in Photoshop CS5 it launches Illustrator CS4 to edit the objects. I am also seeing this in InDesign where it will choose AI CS4 when I select edit original.
Is there a way to change the default to use CS5 products?
Thanks,
Phil

Try changing the file association of the .AI file format from CS4 to CS5 through Windows, usually done by right clicking on a .AI file and choosing Open With->Chose default program

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http://www.notchill.com/tmp/CS5_SmartObject_Transform.mov
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Sorry, I guess I need to explain better.
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Jeff Schewe wrote:
pbfp wrote:
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JJMack wrote:
SAS_Creative wrote:
When we import something from illustrator or indesign as a smart object, for some reason the objects width and height will not keep their dimensions in proportion.
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I assume you used CS5 in both offices?
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