Smart playlist discrepency with iOS7

I found a weired discrepency when I sync one smart playlist on my iOS7 iPhone 5.
A smart playlist is like this,
- Last Skipped is not in the last of (10) (days).
- Limit (100) among (Mostly played)
What happen is every songs synced but only few songs are in the playlist in iPhone. In my iTune, all 100 songs are in the list with no issue.
I analyze what the problem is, and found out that
- iTunes for Windows count songs that don't have a value of Last Skipped, which means "never skipped".
- Music App in iOS doesn't count songs that don't have Last Skipped, which is WRONG
For example, I have 100 songs in the playlist, and if only 5 songs have been skipped before, there will be only 5 songs in the playlist, but other 95 songs are also copied to iPhone.
Anyone has a similar issue or can reproduct it? It should be fixed.

You won't like the answer, but if using the iCloud, your system doens't work anymore. I spent a lot of hours on the phone with apple support and basically, here is the fix...
Go into your smart playlist, remove the check mark on "live updating" and the problem will stop.
Here's the crappy part. That means when you rate something, it will not remove from your playlist until you sync to your itunes database and manually update the list again. Basically, smart playlists are broken. I don't know when this happened, but I used to do exactly what you did and now it doesn't work.
Wish I had a better answer for you. I am also disapointed.

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I am hoping Mac represtentatives will read this.
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2) add a "playlist is Music" rule to the playlist (in addition to the ones you have now).
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Problem with smart Playlist after Upadte to 10.6 - PLEASE UPDATE SOON, Backup not possible

Apple, Apple, Apple... (again)
Is it so difficult to let things, that are quite good, just there where they are??
After updating my iTunes, OS Lion and some other stuff 2 days ago, I have now a big problem with a smart Playlist in iTunes 10.6. Before updating all things was right.
The problem: Now, AFTER UPDATE, my Playlist ist totally empty!
Before they were over 2000 songs in it.
And because this is my major-smart-Playlist, which is established to my whole other Smart-Playlists, the other ones are also empty.
And this is not the first time Apple.
It´s good, if you - apple guys - just added something like new categories to sort of music (like "iCloud-Status" or some others).
BUT WHAT DID YOU THINK, WHEN YOU DELETED THE OPTION "VALUATION" - mh??? (I hope in english this is the word that used in Itunes - my iTunes is in German)
So I don´t mean the "lines" - I don´t know the right english word - when you see the music. There you can fade in "Album-Valuation" - new - AND "Valuation" - old.
But I mean in the options of the smart-playlists - THERE ARE ONLY "Album-Valuation"!!!!! What the heck....
EVERYONE NEEDS THE NORMAL Song-"Valuation" - and not the album (because normaly you decide by each track how good he is and not by the whole album).
You can let the Album ones in it, BUT PLEASE BRING THE NORMAL ONE BACK.
So, in my case, I tried to go back to iTunes 10.5.3 with my nice Time-Machine-Backup. So, but I couldn´t because there came a bug-message that said something like "It is not possible because OSX need the Programm".
What is that?
I also couldn´t delete the iTunes app from my app-folder.
So, and now?
I had to totally restore my volume !
What is that for a solution?!
So please think before you delete any functions, who is needed by many people.
And if you did, maybe ask some users, that uses for example smart-playlists alot, if there is a problem about some changes, you want to add.
I hope anyone from Apple read this and also answer me. Because I´m upset about that.
In every iTunes-Update I am concerned about what will be after the update.
For example in the past, there was more than one changes in iTunes with the Valuation. First, there was just whole stars to set for every song. Than, after a long time, Apple decided to give the options for also half stars. So I said to myself - hey that´s great, that I don´t have to use external apps anymore to set these. So I did this to many of my songs (and that´s many).
Than - after an Update - wow, all half stars rating are gone ! Great Apple, really great.
I was VERY upset.
So after an other update, the opportunity to give half stars are back.
I thought, my god, it is so difficult to talk with other guys, that worked before on iTunes if I am new or just to look if there was already a change in that part of the app???
So, apple guys, please don´t think that I want to attack you. But please be more carefull in the future. I hope that I don´t have to worry too much about so stuff. I really have better things to do with my time.
So, have a nice weekend.
Greetings from Germany.
Marco Blum

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