Smart playlist keeps copying to ipod although it's not selected

I've tried changing the name. I've made sure it's not selected to copy to the ipod. But a particular "smart playlist" that I've created keeps copying over to my ipod touch.
Any idea what I can do to stop it, aside from totally deleting the playlist?

Thanks for the response. I had thought of that and "no" I do not (and did not).
I'm really puzzled about this one and prefer not to scrub everything and start over. I imagine deleting a file or something may help to create preferences or something. I just have no idea at this point.

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Can you increase the song number above 25 on an iPod touch when you create a smart playlist directly on the ipod
Have you followed the notes I gave you two days ago? Although your question then did not refer to changing the Playlist directly "on the iPod", I did let you know what you have to do.
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I was in the same boat and 20 minutes on the phone with an Apple Product Specialist and we figured it out.
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Smart Playlists are fixed with iPod Updater 2006-01-10

Hello Podders, Resident Furball here...
iPod Updater 2006-01-10 restores dynamic updating of Smart Playlists on the iPod
iPod Updater 2005-06-26 disabled the onboard dynamic updating of Smart Playlists on iPods older than the Nano and Gen5. This feature can now be restored using iPod Updater 2006-01-10.
We held lengthy debates about this issue on Discussions (here, here and here), as well as the iLounge thread that sparked a dedicated website.
However, we are glad to confirm that the latest iPod Updater resolves this issue, as I was informed by email from Apple Level 2 Support, and as tested by some of our long-suffering Gen4 and Pod Photo users. The Apple KB article on Smart Playlists has also been updated.
Since the threads that I started have now been locked down to reflect resolution, I'm posting this just to confirm that everything now appears to have been resolved, and I would like to thank everyone here on Discussions for their patience and excellent troubleshooting in diagnosing this problem. Thank you to everyone who posted Feedback, those of you who took the time to phone Apple, and also to Apple Level 2 Phone Support for their assistance in escalating this matter up to US Engineering.
Happy Podding everyone!
Kind regards,
Gopha.

Hello folks, Resident Furball again...
Many folks have now reported that Smart Playlist functionality has been properly restored to the iPod.
However, some folks have been reporting that Smart Playlists containing Podcasts are still coming to grief.
From what I have seen reported, the firmwares prior to the Updater 2005-06-26 that broke Smart Playlists had the ability to dynamically update Podcast-containing Smart Playlists, but this functionality has not been restored in the latest 2006-01-10 that has fixed 'simple' Smart Playlists.
I don't use Podcasts myself, so if you would like to know more, please refer to posts from Vibeeen and Tutackhamen who have described the continuing issue in detail.
In the meanwhile, I have drawn the attention of Level 2 Support to these reports, and recommend that you continue to submit appropriate Feedback if you are affected by this quirk.
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Gopha.

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edit - correction, I played it from an On-The-Go playlist. The On-The-Go playlists got synced back, but not the track playcount.
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ITunes says songs are copied to iPod, but they're not there

I'll preface this by saying I'm a newer iPod user (since March of this year).
I added a bunch of songs to iTunes tonight on our other computer that has XP. It said the iPod was updated and could be removed from the USB (first time it's ever said that, usually it says "iPod Update Complete" on iTunes, but "Do Not Disconnect" on the iPod). I go to listen to my iPod tonight, and none of the songs I added to iTunes are there -- not one. I'm not sure if this is related, but a couple days ago half of my songs in iTunes had the exclamation point next to them indicating the file was gone; search of the computer turned up nothing (most of the songs I added tonight were the ones lost).
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Hello,
I am not sure, but please have a try
f your iPod shows up in Explorer under 'my computer' try changing the drive letter:
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-- Safely eject the iPod
-- Reboot the PC

All of my playlists made on my Ipod touch 3rd gen keep disappearing when I sync it to itunes. Drivng me crazy. All software up to date on both itunes and Ipod. Help please.

All of my playlists made on my Ipod touch 3rd gen keep disappearing when I sync it to itunes. Drivng me crazy. All software up to date on both itunes and Ipod. Help please.
I tend to make my playlists right on my ipod. This did not happen for the last 2 years. Just started recently. Did get a new computer recently.

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I have an 80GB 5th gen ipod and want to delete a playlist from it - even if I uncheck the box it is still there - empty! It has a warning sign next to it on iTunes and it tells me it cannot delete it because it is dependent upon another smart playlist which no longer exists.
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Oh dearie me. This is another major blunder for iTunes 9 - which I cannot see anyone else has noticed yet (but sorry if I couldn't find an existing related post).
Since upgrading to iTunes 9- almost all of my smart playlists (whick worked perfectly before) have disappeared from my iPod. They have also removed themselves from the list in iTunes where I choose which playlists to sync. Yes- I use the 'sync only checked songs & playlists' option (but please don't suggest I manually manage music, as I've been there before).
The problem seems to happen when a smart playlist references 2 or more other (smart or normal) playlists in iTunes. This excludes about 95% of my playlists from syncing in iTunes 9.
Before the upgrade I noticed that iTunes posted an exclamation mark next to any playlist on my iPod that had a rule referencing a playlist in iTunes- but they still sunc perfectly for years. I mean if Apple allowed us to make our own smart playlists only for the iPod- then I would understand- but its the only way I can see to have a playlist for example that plays all favourite but not recently played dance music (regardles of actual genre); nor anything I have moved to a manual playlist called 'not for syncing'.
As a test, I tried an experiment with a new smart playlist which said so long as the song appears in (all) 2 smart playlists- to see when it would become 'syncable'. As would be expected- it was not available to sync. As soon as I deleted the 2nd playlist rule- ie it only had to be in 1 playlist, it became 'syncable'. As soon as I added a 2nd rule again- be it a smart or normal playlist- it became 'unsyncable' again (disappeared from the sync list).
Apple please fix this ASAP. I cannot see this as being desirable behavior in any way, shape or form.
And while you are at it with the new improvements with iTunes 9 playlisting- please add an option to exclude certain 'match' parameters- eg match x and y, but exclude anything that matches z. Besides allowing for much better playlisting, that would (to a degree) also provide a workable workaround to the problem above.
Yours faithfully,
Mike

Cheers for chiming in- but I don't think that will solve this problem. I have no podcasts on my iPod- only mp3s. My problem is I have way too much music in my library- over 300GB. So I have all my iTunes smart playlists- eg genre Dubstep- but then I have an iPod version of each of these eg Dubstep iPod- which says match both criteria- playlist is Dubstep, & playlist is not 'Master not sync'. Every smart playlist on my iPod revolves around this playlist- whose rules are if any of the following 2 criteria match: rating is not between 1&2 stars; playlist is not the normal manual playlist called 'not for iPod sync'- where I drop any mp3s that I don't need on my iPod. This scheme worked perfectly before.
But I am gonna chew on what you said today- maybe there is a clue in there or maybe if I experiment with the 'music' rule. Either way- this is not an improvement- it's about 200 steps back. I still maintain that the problem I am seeing is not intentional coding. Something broke in the codebase & now iTunes 9 has playlist / syncing bugs which need fixing.
Either that, or Apple need to finally release a 500GB iPod- so I can get rid of my iPod specific playlists & sync all my iTunes playlists. Then I would even consider putting podcasts on there as well...;) Heck maybe even some video... crazy idea, I know.

Tip for creating auto-updating Smart Playlists for iPod

Short Answer:
Don't use Smart Playlists that use rules with nested playlists which aren't completely on iPod.
Long Answer:
If you're like me and use nested Smart Playlists, make sure that any Smart Playlist you want to have auto-update on the iPod doesn't use a rule which uses as a criteria a playlist that isn't fully present on iPod (exclamation point next to the Smart Playlist in iTunes when connecting iPod to your Mac).
For example, I have Smart Playlists to exclude certain tracks in other Smart Playlists (Streams, Spoken Word,tracks under 1 minute, etc.). These are tracks that I usually want to exclude in other Smart Playlists but don't want to add those rules each and every time.
The problem is that iPod looks to see if that 'excludes' playlist is present, which obviously it isn't because by it's nature it's designed to exclude tracks. If a nested playlist isn't present it seems the auto-update will not work.
My solution was to create a new Smart Playlist specifically for the iPod, which contained all the rules of my "master exclude" Smart Playlist and any other I wanted specifically for the iPod.
My beef with Apple here is that I can't duplicate a Smart Playlist, which is possible in iPhoto. Being able to do that would make things much easier.
I have since gone about creating 'excludes' playlists so that the playlist itself excludes tracks; previously I was creating a Smart PLaylist that contained (included) all the tracks I wanted to exclude, then using that as a rule (Playlist is not 'Excludes') in other playlists. The second method worked fine on iTunes, since all the tracks are present, but it creates problems on iPod.

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Smart Playlists and the Fifth Generation iPod

Does anyone know if the issue of Smart Playlists not auto-updating has been addressed in the 5th gen. iPod?
For more info. / background, please see:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301910

You may be interested in our Smart Playlist discussion here:
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=1514307#1514307
Podcast-containing Smart Playlists are still coming to grief, and do not update dynamically:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=1536677#1536677
and Level 2 Support have been notified about this:
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=1683550
Kind regards,
Gopha.

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ITunes 11.1.2 and iOS 7.0.3 Smart Playlists not working

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If you are syncing automatically, resync content to the iPhone by unchecking "Sync Music" and click "Apply," then check "Sync Music" and click "Apply" again.
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http://support.apple.com/kb/PH12113
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