Smart Playlists still not updating on ipod?

Sorry to pull up an old topic, but any news on the smart playlist problem? My 2G mini doesnt update SPLs, can't say the same for any other models. Is the best solution still to use an old update?
Thanks in advance.

This is the latest update.
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=1246954#1246954

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