Smart Playlists - too smart for me

Hi!
I've encontered a problem when creating y new smart playlist: I want to add all songs I've added the last 60 Days without some songs. Say I don't want to add the whole Nevermind-Album (I put albums into playlists for easier burning) but just some songs I added to another playlist. When trying the smartlist-settings "playlist is not Nevermind" and "added since..." then no song from Nevermind is appearing, even if the time-criterion is fitting. (Hope I made myself cear - I'm using the german version of iTunes)
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks in advance,
Burchi
iMac G5 iSight Mac OS X (10.4.4)

After playing around, my assumption was correct. If I try to make a playlist that excludes a playlist containing all the tracks on an album with a playlist that contains some of the tracks on the album, the exclusion condition rules and none of the tracks on the album appear in the final playlist.
One way to leave out some of the tracks is to uncheck them.
Other than that, you need to find something common about the tracks you don't want to appear and build a condition based on that common element. For example, you could add a keyword in the Grouping or Comment field and then, instead of "Playlist is not Nevermind" you would use "Grouping is not <keyword>".

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