Smart quotes in section marker text

How do I insert a smart quotation mark (or the base font quotation mark) into section text? Right now, an apostrophe looks like a tear drop.

Either ALT + key code (don't know for english Indesign) or menu Type -> Special characters -> Quotation marks -> Single Left quotation mark.

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Combining smart quotes and inch marks?

Dilemma! I have smart quotes turned on because I need them. I also need to be able to use inch marks in the same document. I have searched the Help files with no luck. Can anyone tell me if there's a way to have both smart quotes and inch marks in the same Pages document?
Thanks in advance!
Powermac G5 & Powerbook 15" Mac OS X (10.4.8)
Powermac G5 & Powerbook 15" Mac OS X (10.4.8)

You can indeed combine smart quotes and the character that indicates inches, by using the appropriate inch mark character from the system-wide Character Palette. To do this, you will need access the Input Menu at the top right of the menu bar. If you don't have the Input Menu visible, go into the International System Preferences, in the Input Menu tab, check the "Show Input Menu in Menu Bar" option at the bottom of the panel, and check "On" for the Character Palette. This will put a little flag on the right side of your menu bar -- this is the Input Menu.
From the Input Menu, select the Character Palette. With the palette open, choose the Punctuation category. You will be presented with a wide array of punctuation characters, including proper inch and foot marks (which are actually "prime" and "double prime" marks, and are angled, unlike straight quotes). Select in Pages where you want the character to go, and then double-click it, and it will be inserted. The prime and double-prime marks are not considered quotes by the system, and so won't be curlified.

Smart quotes sometimes wrong way round after a question mark or comma

I'm finding that Pages frequently puts the direction of the final smart quote in a piece of dialogue the wrong way round. I use a single speech mark (apostrophe) at start and finish of speech. This seems to happen most after a question mark or comma. Anyone know why, or how to fix it? Doesn't happen in Word! Thanks.

Which language is your computer set to?
Have you set the system preferences for smart quotes?
System preferences > Language and text > Text
Here is what it looks like on my computer with Snow Leopard

Characters such as apostrophes and smart quotes turning into boxes or question marks

We recently upgraded from CF5 to CF7 and are having a problem
with previously saved text that no longer displays correctly. Some
characters (apparently, non-ASCII characters such as curly
apostrophes and smart quotes) are rendering as boxes or question
marks. We recently upgraded to Oracle 10g from Oracle 8i, but this
problem appears to be independent of the database that the text is
stored in. Here is sample code that will illustrate the problem:
<CFSET string1="Department’s">
<CFSET string2="hey—there">
<CFOUTPUT>
string1 is #string1#
<BR>
string2 is #string2#
</CFOUTPUT>
output looks like this:
string1 is Department?s
string2 is hey?there
These are rendered as boxes when viewed in Internet Explorer.
(They show up as question marks when I copy and paste them here.)
The Demoronize UDF helps *some* of the time, but this is
still happening with a lot of text, especially text that gets
pasted from a website into a form, then saved to a database. Does
anybody have a solution for this? This is breaking my applications
and is incredibly annoying. I'd like to either replace the
problematic characters at the time they are displayed, or replace
them when they are input in the database in the first place (and go
back and update all the previously saved data to replace the
problematic characters with plain text equivalents).
Any suggestions appreciated.

I finally isolated the problematic characters so I edited the
DeMoronize UDF (available at cflib.org) by adding the following
text replacements at the bottom:
text = Replace(text, chr(8208), "-", "ALL");
text = Replace(text, chr(8209), "-", "ALL");
text = Replace(text, chr(8210), "–", "ALL");
text = Replace(text, chr(8211), "–", "ALL");
text = Replace(text, chr(8212), "—", "ALL");
text = Replace(text, chr(8213), "—", "ALL");
text = Replace(text, chr(8214), "||", "ALL");
text = Replace(text, chr(8215), "_", "ALL");
text = Replace(text, chr(8216), "‘", "ALL");
text = Replace(text, chr(8217), "’", "ALL");
text = Replace(text, chr(8218), ",", "ALL");
text = Replace(text, chr(8219), "'", "ALL");
text = Replace(text, chr(8220), "“", "ALL");
text = Replace(text, chr(8221), "”", "ALL");
text = Replace(text, chr(8222), """", "ALL");
text = Replace(text, chr(8223), """", "ALL");
text = Replace(text, chr(8226), "·", "ALL");
text = Replace(text, chr(8227), ">", "ALL");
text = Replace(text, chr(8228), ".", "ALL");
text = Replace(text, chr(8229), "..", "ALL");
text = Replace(text, chr(8230), "...", "ALL");
text = Replace(text, chr(8231), "·",
"ALL");

How do I force straight quotation marks to turn to smart quotes?

Our ID prefs are set to use smart quotes but there are times when we get text documents that refuse to toe the line. We fix that by doing Find/Change and forcing all straight quotes to change to smart quotes. Is there a way to tell InDesign to change all those by itself whenever any straight quotes is placed on a page? Note that we are mostly editors who have to do layout by ourselves. We also have guys who only do layout but they don't really understand InDesign, so we want to make things a lot easier for them. We are all using InDesign CS5.
Thank you.

Yes, it's checked in all our machines (all iMacs, btw). Any other solution? Any suggestion about how to make a shortcut so that when I press just one key combination, all the straight (stupid) quotes would become smart quotes?
I did read Sandy's Quick Start Guide when we were still using ID2. I also bought the book by David Blattner and Steve Werner for ID3. But I stopped using ID regularly after a career change. Now I'm again helping the guys I left earlier.

Smart quotes in languages other than English

Hi to all,
As a technical writer, I deal with texts in several languages. One of the problems I have with FrameMaker, is that French and German "smart" (or "typographic") quotes are not entered automatically. Quotation marks remain in the English format. The solutions offered in Adobe's Knowledge Base are less than optimal:
- Replacing the way FrameMaker writes smart quotes in the Maker.ini file is made on a general base, and not per language.
- Manually entering all quotation marks cannot be done easily when you receive a text from others.
Is there a viable solution to this problem?
Paolo

Paolo,
One way would be to create a small custom config file for each specific language that modifies the definition of the standard double-quote characters used for the Smart quotes. The definition for the standard characters in cmds.cfg (in the \fminit\configui folder) is:
<Command CharLeftDblQuote
    <Label Left Double Quote>
    <Definition \xd2>>
<Command CharRightDblQuote
    <Label Right Double Quote>
    <Definition \xd3>>
where the Definition parameter specifes the hex value (i.e. character in the FrameRoman encoding) to use for the character that you wish to display in FM.
For the French, version create a file with those two entries (call it French_smartquotes.cfg) and change the hex values to the appropriate language-specific quote, i.e. guillemotleft is \xc7 and guillemotright is \xc8. Likewise for the German.
Then, when you need to work in any of theose languages, use View > Menus > Modify... and select the appropriate .cfg file. This will then temporarily change the mapping for the double-quote characters such that when you enter them from the keyboard, the appropraite language specific quote will be used. To switch languages, simply select another .cfg file using the View > Menus > Modify... The setting only persists for the current FM session.
The alternative is to edit the maker.ini file to enable the language specific smart quotes, listed in the [Spelling] section. The entry is:
; Smart Quote Characters
; SmartQuotes \xd4\xd5\xd2\xd3 ) English curved quotes
; SmartQuotes \xe2\xd4\xe3\xd2 ) German-style quotes with base quotes
; SmartQuotes \xd5\xd5\xc7\xc8 ) French-style quotes using guillemets
; SmartQuotes \xd5\xd5\xd3\xd3 ) Swedish- and Finnish-style quotes
; SmartQuotes \xd4\xd5\xd2\xd3 ) Italian curved quotes
; English curved quotes:
SmartQuotes=‘’“”
Delete the ";" at the front to un-comment the appropriate entry and add a ";" to the english one.
However, this route requires you to close FM every time yo uwish to make a change.

Preview and "Smart" quotes

I am trying to search through a PDF document that contains some (unfortunately named) "smart quotes". The term I am searching for is "Dean's", however the document contains "Dean’s". The quote mark in the second word is actually a multibyte Unicode character.
Is there a way to configure Preview, or the Mac in general, to ignore these differences when performing searches? That is, to find "Dean’s" even when I'm looking for "Dean's"? As a human, there's essentially no difference between the two.

Is there a way to configure Preview, or the Mac in general, to ignore these differences when performing searches?
I think not, they represent two different character streams. You probably need to search for both if you don't already know which of them the text uses.
But some apps may do this automatically. I think Pages, for example, may find both kinds of punctuation when you put either in the Edit > Find dialogue.

Convert smart quotes and other high ascii characters to HTML

I'd like to set up Dreamweaver CS4 Mac to automatically convert smart quotes and other high ASCII characters (m-dashes, accent marks, etc.) pasted from MS Word into HTML code. Dreamweaver 8 used to do this by default, but I can't find a way to set up a similar auto-conversion in CS 4. Is this possible? If not, it really should be a preference option. I code a lot of HTML emails and it is very time consuming to convert every curly quote and dash.
Thanks,
Robert
Digital Arts

I too am having a related problem with Dreamweaver CS5 (running under Windows XP), having just upgraded from CS4 (which works fine for me) this week.
In my case, I like to convert to typographic quotes etc. in my text editor, where I can use macros I've written to speed the conversion process. So my preferred method is to key in typographic letters & symbols by hand (using ALT + ASCII key codes typed in on the numeric keypad) in my text editor, and then I copy and paste my *plain* ASCII text (no formatting other than line feeds & carriage returns) into DW's DESIGN view. DW displays my high-ASCII characters just fine in DESIGN view, and writes the proper HTML code for the character into the source code (which is where I mostly work in DW).
I've been doing it this way for years (first with GoLive, and then with DW CS4) and never encountered any problems until this week, when I upgraded to DW CS5.
But the problem I'm having may be somewhat different than what others have complained of here.
In my case, some high-ASCII (above 128) characters convert to HTML just fine, while others do not.
E.g., en and em dashes in my cut-and-paste text show as such in DESIGN mode, and the right entries
    –
    —
turn up in the source code. Same is true for the ampersand
    &
and the copyright symbol
    ©
and for such foreign letters as the e with acute accent (ALT+0233)
    é
What does NOT display or code correctly are the typographic quotes. E.g., when I paste in (or special paste; it doesn't seem to make any difference which I use for this) text with typographic double quotes (ALT+0147 for open quote mark and ALT+0148 for close quote mark), which should appear in source code as
    “[...]”
DW strips out the ASCII encoding, displaying the inch marks in DESIGN mode, and putting this
    "[...]"
in my source code.
The typographic apostrophe (ALT+0146) is treated differently still. The text I copy & paste into DW should appear as
    [...]’[...]
in the source code, but instead I get the foot mark (both in DESIGN and CODE views):
I've tried adjusting the various DW settings for "encoding"
    MODIFY > PAGE PROPERTIES > TITLE/ENCODING > Encoding:
and for fonts
    EDIT > PREFERENCES > FONTS
but switching from "Unicode (UTF-8)" to "Western European" hasn't solved the problem (probably because in my case many of the higher ASCII characters convert just fine). So I don't think it's the encoding scheme I use that's the problem.
Whatever the problem is, it's caused me enough headaches and time lost troubleshooting that I'm planning to revert to CS4 as soon as I post this.
Deborah

Problem with javascript/PHP/ oracle 10g smart quotes

I have a problem with my php form that passes the text field to a javascript object. When I copy text from MS Word that includes smart quotes, the form inputs that into the database as ? (upside down) marks. The charset of the DB is WE8MSWIN1252. How do I store these smart quotes as regular quotes? And also if I can do any conversions on the front end (js or php). I tried doing some conversion but to no avail. Any help would be appreciated thank you. “double”

Decide if you want your HTML pages in Windows code page 1252 or Unicode UTF-8. Then, make sure the pages are properly tagged as either "text/html;charset=windows-1252" or "text/html;charset=utf-8". Use HTTP header Content-type or the corresponding <META HTTP-EQUIV=...> tag. Then, set NLS_LANG environment variable for your PHP engine to either AMERICAN_AMERICA.WE8MSWIN1252 or to AMERICAN_AMERICA.AL32UTF8, depending on which encoding you selected for your HTML.
-- Sergiusz

Smart quotes interrupting typing?

Hi—
Since upgrading to Yosemite (10.10) I've noticed that (especially in Mail [8.0 (1990.1)], though it's possible it's happening elsewhere in the OS) whenever I'm typing quickly and include an apostrophe, the cursor jumps back when I type the next space or punctuation mark, creating undesirable results. Whenever I type the contraction for "will" (e.g. I'll, you'll, she'll, we'll), the cursor jumps back to between the two L's, so the second L trails whatever I'm typing until I realize it and fix it:
You’lfind this very annoying.l
I’lsee if I can figure out what went wrong.l
She’loffer a suggestion.l
We’lfix this eventually.l
A few more examples show that the cursor seems to jump back to the character after the "smartened" apostrophe, even if there are several characters between the apostrophe and the space (as in "S'wonderful"):
I’mtyping quickly.
There’snow a trailing space on this line.
S’wto know that this happens every time.onderful
And just for the sake of troubleshooting:
I wondered, “Does this happen with double quotes too?"
No, it doesn't seem to.
Has anyone else noticed this? Other than turning off smart quotes in Mail (which probably wouldn't be a bad idea, now that I think about it), is there a way to keep this from happening?
Thanks,
David

No, you're doing it right. Try the exact same procedure in TextEdit, which also relies on OS X's text substitutions mechanism for this, and you'll find it works exactly as you expect. This is a lingering bug in Pages 5.

Smart quotes messed up from ipad

question: it appears that in the round trips between pages osx and pages ipad, anything entered with apostrophe's or quote marks on the ipad does not use curly quotes (smart quotes). is there a simple way to globally change all marks in the file to the smart kind on the computer, and is there a way to get smart quote marks from ipad entered text?

i do understand how to set the preference on the laptop, but that doesn't change the straight quotes that already were entered back to curly, unless i go and delete each mark and reenter it.
i don't see any preference pane for the ipad version of pages to control smart quotes; the global preference for 'auto correction' might control smart quotes on the ipad, but that would be unworkable, since i routinely use words it doesn't recognize (languages not english, and just unusual english words). hopefully there is another way, or will be soon...

MS Word smart quotes don't paste the same into Forms 10g as Forms 6i

Hi all,
I have users who write text in Microsoft Word and then cut-and-paste it into Oracle Forms.
After some prodding by the developers, the users have switched to using the 10G version of their application instead of the 6i version.
As a background you should know that Microsoft Word uses Smart Quotes by default, which you can turn off. Smart Quotes are different ascii characters than the ascii 39 single quote and ascii 34 double quote.
When the users cut-and-paste the Microsoft Word text into the Forms 10G field, the single apostrophe smart quote does not convert to ascii 39. I wouldn't be surprised about this except that in Forms 6i the form does convert the single apostrophe smart quote into ascii 39.
So if the users use the 6i Form they can cut-and-paste and the form/database has the character as ascii 39. If the users paste into Forms 10G then the database shows the character as ascii 191 (hex 0xBF), which is an inverted question mark.
Does anyone know of any settings in Forms 10g to revert back to 6i functionality for this?
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I am afraid that Jan is right.
And this might be a bit of a hassle, since it might affect your forms. If you are using some standard Windows lettertype in your forms, though, you should be OK.
Bare in mind, that you the NLS_LANG.characterset will have to be compatible between database and forms (the latter at both compiletime and runtime).
Good Luck!
Remco

Pasting smart quotes and apostrophes in code view.

Sine upgrading to Dreamweaver CS5, I haven't been able to copy/paste smart quotes and apostrophes into code view without them automatically being converted to straight quotes.
For example, the following sentence (notice the curly quotes):
John’s new song is called “DW Blues”
would get pasted into Code View as:
John's new song is called "DW Blues"
Notice the smart quotes and apostrophe are replaced with single and double ticks, or "straight quotes." While this seems like a minor detail, it's extremely important to our writers and editors to have them appear on the website exactly as typed.
If I do the same copy/paste in Design View (doc type is XHTML Transitional), it appears as:
John's new song is called "DW Blues"
The characters are still replaced, and the straight quotes are then entity encoded (as expected).
This doesn't happen with other valid UTF-8 characters like ™, ®, —, etc., or with any other code editors I've used, including DW CS3.
Is there a hidden preference somewhere to disable this "feature," or is it just a bug?
Please help!

It's now 4 years since jsparacio posted this, and I just wanted to let everyone know that I had -- and am still having -- the exact same problem with Dreamweaver CS5 (running first under Windows XP, then Windows 7, and now again with Windows 8.1). So it's not just Macs that are affected.
FWIW, I have set my DW CS5 Paste preferences to the 3rd of 4 options available
    1 - Text Only
    2 - Text With Structure
    3 - Text With Structure Plus Basic Formatting
    4 - Text With Structure Plus Full Formatting
in the EDIT > PREFERENCES > Copy/Paste Preferences dialog box.
But the Paste Special command ignores this setting, giving me only the first 2 options from which to choose, with option 2 the default selection for Paste Special operations (options 3 and 4 are grayed out, and can't be selected).
According to David Sawyer McFarland's _Dreamweaver CS5: The Missing Manual_ (O'Reilly Media, 2010), the reason these are grayed out is because I am pasting unformatted ASCII text which I generated in a program editor called "UltraEdit":
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Regardless of such restrictions, standard copy-and-paste (CTRL+C followed by CTRL+V) works just fine for me using Dreamweaver CS4 (i.e., I have never needed to use the Paste Special command), but with DW CS5, neither Paste command (CONTROL+V or CTRL+SHIFT+V) works properly with typographic/curly/smart quotes.
All typographic quotes -- ASCII-0146 and ASCII-0147 (double quote marks); plus ASCII-0145 and ASCII-0146 (single quote marks, for quotes within a quote) -- are converted to inch (" is entered in the code) and foot (' is entered in the code) marks when I copy-and-paste text with these characters into Dreamweaver's Design View.
When I copy this same plain ASCII text directly into the code (rather than using Design View), typographic double open & close quotes are converted to the inch (") mark, and typographic single open & close quotes are converted to the foot (') mark.
The beginning of this week, I installed Dreamweaver CS5, ver. 11.0, Build 4909 under Windows 8.1 OS on my new Ultrabook. I was hoping that under Windows 8.1, DW CS5's handling of typographic quotes might improve so that I can actually use this program that I purchased 4 years ago. Alas, no such luck: I continue to have the same problem I had when I first upgraded to Dreamweaver CS5 back in August 2010 (then running under Windows XP on my desktop computer).
Back in August 2020, when I first asked about fixes, I was told to change the Title/Encoding setting of Page Properties to "Western European" -- which I tried, but it didn't work then, and it doesn't work now ... and even if it did, it wouldn't be a proper fix for the problem as I have plenty of good reasons for wanting my HTML page Title/Encoding set to Unicode (UTF-8), not Western European ("charset=iso-8859-1").
The ability to copy-and-paste typographic quotes is such a big deal for me that I chose back in August 2010 to revert to Dreamweaver CS4, which I've been using ever since.
It is *very* frustrating that, 4 years later, I still can't use this program, and shall be reverting to DW CS4, yet again.
I continue to be completely flummoxed by this. Every other program with which I am familiar converts non-typographic quotes to typographic/curly/smart quotes ... never have I seen the process automated in reverse!

"Smart Quotes" and Extensions

I'm working on a text processing extension and want to implement a "Convert special characters to safe HTML entities" (that's just a working title!) menu option. When I copy and paste some blocks of text from Word into the editor, then right-click my selection and choose my extension to process that text, the text that gets sent via the xml packet to my handler converts (in this case) Word's smart quotes (&#8220 and &#8221) to question marks. This is before my handler processes anything. I'm just using cfdump to look at the data. Am I missing some intermediary processing that needs to be done somehow? I can't figure out where it would be done since I don't have any control over the selected editor content until my handler is fired.
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The encoding is utf-8 (which is the default in CF 9 (and maybe CF 8 too), but I explicitly set it anyway, and still no luck. It seems like Word Smart Quotes are actually seen by ColdFusion as 3 different characters. I don't know that Smart Quotes are actually representable as specific entities, though. When I copy a closing smart quote out of Word into a cfm file and so something like <cset q = "{smart quote here}">, and then loop over that variable one character at a time and output the ascii values, I get 3 values: 226, 8364, 65533.
Here's a test that contains Smart Quotes that I just copied from MS Word into this editor, it will be interesting to see how they are represented after I post this message:
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Andy

Smart quotes stored in DB are displaying as ? after jdbc select

I originally posted this to the general forum, but it was suggested that I post it here where Sergiusz Wolicki from Oracle might be able to help.
I have an Oracle 10 DB set up with the following character set
NLS_LANGUAGE AMERICAN
NLS_CHARACTERSET WE8MSWIN1252
NLS_NCHAR_CHARACTERSET AL16UTF16
I am connecting to the database using JDBC thin client. I have a web page that is encoded using
<%@ page language="java" pageEncoding="Windows-1252" contentType="text/html;charset=Windows-1252" %>
The scenarion I am having problems with is the following. In an input field the user copies a so-called smart quote from Word and submits. I then update the corresponding database field and then return to the page and display the result.
If I display the string that I wrote to the database back in the page, without selecting it from the database, it displays correctly. However, if I select it from the database and then display it in the page I get a question mark ('?') - note that this is NOT the upside down variety.
I believe it is inserting it into the database correctly. I can go into sql plus and do a select on the field and it appears to be correct. I can also use the ascii function and it shows the character as character 145. Here is what I did:
select middle_name from employee where employee_id=100;
MIDDLE_NAME
select ascii(middle_name) from employee where employee_id=100;
ASCII(MIDDLE_NAME)
145
So my problem is getting it out of the database and into a java string properly.
I know I can solve this issue by changing the database character set to UTF-8, but I am not in control of this and it is not an option.
Thanks in advance for any help on this.

I suspect this may be the result of bug #4659157. Upgrade your JDBC driver to 10.2.0.4 or to any 11g driver and retest.
-- Sergiusz

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