Smartview Forms - Business Rule Execution

Users edit data within Planning, but don't see changes when refreshing in SmartView until a user executes business rules {Aggregation rule} on the Plan2 cube within Planning [via internet explorer].
Once the form where the business rule is attached is loaded/saved [set to both on the form / business rule property] - the data in SmartView has the calculation updated.
Do business rules NOT run from SmartView?

buiseness rule can be executed from smart view as well but before that i would like to tell you that smart view can be connected to
1)Essbase using the URL http(s)://<servername>:13080/aps/SmartView
2)Planning using the URL http(s)://<servername>:8300/HyperionPlanning/SmartView
here 13080 is the default smart view port for Essbase and 8300 is the default port for Planning.
Now if the user makes a connection to planning then he can view the data forms and the buiseness rules but not the normal grid view that was visible otherwise in essbase.
for Forms : Hyperion tab -> Forms -> Select Forms
for HBR/Calculation Scripts : Hyperion tab -> Calculation options -> Buiseness rule
if you are connected through Essbase then you can not view the HBR and forms but if you are using the calculation scripts for aggregation then they are visible
Hyperion tab -> Calculation options -> Calculate

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Calculate Data Form - Business Rule

I am a little confused on how the default "Calculate Data Form" business rule works which is available when we create a new data form.
When run, does it calculate the entire cube as in it works like - CALC ALL; ? Or does it just calculate the dimensions/members specific to the form. I always thought that it is specific calculation for the data form - which considers the selection that we have in our POV, Page and rows and columns and it doesn't calculate the entire cube. Please correct me if I am wrong.
If anyone has any resourse that has more about it, please share the link or information. It will be a big help.
Please let me know.
Thank you!
~ Adella

Thank you so much John for responding to my question.
So, if I understood it right you were telling me that it doesn't calculate the entire database, but it only calculates the subtotals for those specific member combinations that are there on the dataform and displays it on the form after the business rule is launched. Hope now I understood it right.
Actually, I am running into an issue where I am just changing two cells on my dataform, then running the "Calculate Data Form" to see the totals changing accordingly but it is taking way too long than expected and also it is not rendering the right result. I am not sure what is causing this delay if it were only to calculate things specific to the data form and show the results.

Can I pass the selected member at page dimension to form business rule?

I have a business rule which will be executed when the form get loaded, the business rule is very complex, so I want to narrow down the calculation by passing the selected member at page dimension to the business rule.
For example, I have year as page dimension, and I only want to calculate the selected year at one time? How can I do it?
I know runtime prompt, but I don't think it's a good way, since you need to select again.
Thanks
Tony

You can use a variable and a run time prompt.
You can set the business rule options in planning to "Use Members on Form" and "Hide Run time prompt"
This way the page/pov member will be passed into the business and into the variable.
Cheers
John
http://john-goodwin.blogspot.com/

Business rules execution error

Hi,
I am facing an error with business rules and forms.
We are having 6 folders and each folder relating to different departments and each department (folder) contains 5 forms.
The same environment is in UAT server and Production server.
The same UAT server is migrated to Production.
Here the problem is example: In each folder, form 2 is tagged with 3 business rules like rule1, rule2 and rule3.
These 3 rules are same for the form 2 in all folders, except the legal entity, code, prduct will be vary as per the user selection.
but the code is same.
In these 3 rules, the first 2 rules rule1 and rule2 are not working. While double clicking the rule, its says that, error while executing the calculation script. Please check the log file. The same error coming for form 2 in all folders with the same rules which are tagged.
But the same rules are working with the same form in UAT environment. I have tried to change the rules from UAT to Production.
After changing the rules also, the same error is coming while executing the business rule.
So can any one suggest me what to do and how to resolve this.
Thanks & Regards
RREDDY

The same error when executing the business rule after opening the form.
" Error executing the calculation script. Check log for details"
I have checked the log also, but its also showing the same sentence.
While validating the rule, I have checked the same thing and I have compared with the UAT settings also. Its all are fine.
Only these 2 rules with the same form in all the folders are getting the error.
I have done one more thing that copying the content of Business rule code in UAt and paste the same in Production and saved it.
I have checked all other settings they are remain same and no changes. Then I have detached the rules from web form and saved it and log-off from planning.
Again logged in and tagged the BR's to the form and tried to execute, even then also the same error coming.
thanks
rreddy
Edited by: user4483519 on Sep 21, 2009 4:39 AM

Composite Web Forms/Business Rules

In Planning, I've created a composite web form. Although I've selected the "Use Members on Data Form" box in the business rule properties with in the composite form, when I launch the rule the prompt box doesn't show the division that is represented on the current form, it pre-populates the last division that was used when launching a business rule in a normal web form. This works just fine when I'm in a normal web form, just not a composite. Any ideas of what might be going on? Is there a setting somewhere that I'm missing?

I would be careful using business rules in composite forms. There are a bit unstable as composite forms are quite buggy. What you can do is try to apply the 9.3.1.1.8 patch release and see if this does not resolve your issues. This patch covers alot of bugs in 9.3.1 (which I assume is your version) including business rules stability with composite forms and substitution variable usage. Hope this helps point you in the right direction.
best of luck

Display of data after Business Rule Execution

Hi Gurus
We are using 11.1.2 and experiencing few problems with some of out Business Rules. The problem is, BR executed successfully and the resultant data is not displaying in the target form. As a workaround, we put a dummy value in any of the target's combination and re-execute the BR, this time BR gets populate the target cell. Pls advice what sort of problem is this???
Thanks in advance,
SNK

It could be down to the business rule not creating blocks, by entering dummy data then you are creating the blocks and the rule will run as expected.
Have a look at this post :- Re: Busines rule Issue
Cheers
John
http://john-goodwin.blogspot.com/

Business Rule Execution

Hi
We have a aggregation Rule which works on 3 dimensions. It was taking too much time for execution, for this we have removed number of records from 2 dimensions and the size of dimension reduced from 11000 members to 100 members. But still same business rule taking same time for execution.
Any Idea, how can we improve performance of Business Rule??
Thanks
Jiya

Hi,
It depends upon the hierarchy to be aggregated, since you have reduced the members to very few, you can do like:
1.Try to aggregate the dimension using single AGG command.
like AGG(DIM1,DIM2, DIM3) rather than writhing separate AGG commands for each dimension.
2. SET CALCPARALLEL n; for parallel calculation if you are just aggregating the dimensions.(n is the number)
Hope this works as pointers for your issue..
Thanks,
Sourabh

Error in Business Rule execution

Dear Gurus,
I have two base planning applications whihc are having lot of business rules. I have created Duplicate application for those two application by using LCM and EPMA. I have migrated each and every artefact.
I am able to see all the Business Rules in planning application and able to launch those but one business rule is giving problem.
That business rule is having 6 runtime prompts but in error it is stating only one RTP name.
The Error is - Unable to retrieve variable RTP_LAST_ACT_WK deployed in application PROPTEMP in Planning instance Default
I am clue less why the application is throwing this error.
Thanks
Giri Prasad

Hi Rahul and Endy,
I have created another duplicate application now and migrated all the artefacts and I set the default value for RTPs which i got from validation of particular business rule. Now its running fine with default instance.
The problem is i have created some more applications on different instance than the base application where the business rule validation is throwing different error.
I can stongly say that the instance is making the difference.
can you please let me know how to change the instance of existing planning applications.
Thanks
Giri

Changing Business rule execution time

Hi,
I'm working on EPMA 11.1.1.3 when i'm launching BR on dataform after certain time the dataform is opening in a new window.when i'm looking in logs it shows that
BR launching execution time has exceeded now the BR is running in the background.
can you gurus tell me where can i change the default BR execution time.....
thanks in advance
Edited by: kailash on Sep 14, 2011 4:15 PM

Have a read of - http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E12825_01/epm.111/hp_admin/ch02s07s06.html
Cheers
John
http://john-goodwin.blogspot.com/

Business Rule Attached to Composite web form not running

Hi
I created a composite webform and attached a business rule.Rule is supposed to run on save.But its failing to do so.Version is 11.1.2.3.I also tried attaching BR to the individual webforms along with the composite webform.Still not working.
Please give your valuable advice on this.
Thanks in advance.

Did you select Run "Rules from Form XX" in composite Form Business Rule section and select Run on save option ? Can you please provide screenshot of your BR section in Composite form and simple form ??

Error seeing business rule ( to be assocated with)in Manage Data forms list

HI,
I have a business rule, I see it in EAS console, but when I try to associate it with my Data form in Planning, i do not see this business rule in the list fo business rules that appear in Manage Data forms-> business rules tab. I hae associated thsi Business rule with my planning applicatiosn outline still I am not seeing it. Can someone please help.

How does this relate to the Oracle Forms product?
Craig...
Edited by: CraigB on Feb 15, 2012 8:43 AM

Business rules security in task lists

Hi experts,
I have question regarding security in business rules, the problem is that we have, lets say, 10 users who have all access to a tasklist, but not all of them have access to the same forms / business rules. The ideal would be that if a user has no access to a form, it doesnt show in the tasklist, but he gets to see the form in the tasklist and when he opens it he receives an error message. We can get the user to accept that. But with business rules, the case is different: when a user clicks on a business rule on the tasklist he has no access to, instead of receiving a message denying access, he gets a screen with all the business rules he does have access to, and checkboxes to select the plan type the BR will run on, which is unacceptable and confusing. There are many users and creating custom tasklist for each one of them would be too hard to mantain. Is there a way to achieve a better solution for the user? Thanks in advance for your comments.

Hi,
I don't think of any other way.
The user have access to task list so it will show all tasks, and if the user don't have access to any particular web form it will throw an error informing same only once user open the web form.
For Business Rule it will show all rule/calc scripts for which user have access too, if the user don't have access to rule attached to that task.
I had same requirement and then after trying for some time, we provided education about the same to the users.
Regards,
-SM

Business Rules or Form Refresh timeout - SmartView

Hi,
We have users using Smartview which get the following error: "The request timed out. Contact your admistrator ro increase netRetryCount and netRetryInterval." It appear that everytime a user execute a business rule or refresh a form, if the business rule or the form takes more than a minute to complete, the user will get the timeout error. If it is only few seconds to run, then the user will not get the timeout error.
We use Hyperion Planning 9.2.0. Is this something to do with the setting in HBRServer.properties? We have the following settings at this moment:
HBR.maxconn=20
HBR.timeout=30000
HBR.catalog=HYPSVR01
#embedded server timeout in minutes
#HBR.embedded_timeout=10
#HBR.css_refresh=30
HBR_APP_NAME=orclrddb01
PLUGIN_DATA_REFRESH_RATE=30000
====
Could anyone advise the meaning of the above entries or where can I get the information about the entries?
Do we need to use: HBR.embedded_timeout or HBR_DB_CONNECTION_TIMEOUT setting?
Thanks for your help.
Regards,
Lian

Hi John,
Thanks for the reply.
As advised by Hyperion, we add :8300 (port number)
into the smartview connection string, this appear to have solve the problem, e.g.
http://planningserver.servername.com:8300/HyperionPlanning/SmartView

Get cell value in Planning Data form and using it in a business rule

Hi Everybody,
if i set the data type of an Account Member as text, is there a way to get the value inserted by the user in a dataform, turning it as dimensional member and using it in a business rule?
So, if the user insert the value "USA" in a cell, can i use any functions to tell essbase that "USA" is a dimensional member and then using it in a business rule, for example in a cross-dimension like Period1->FY12->USA?
I tried to use the function @Member and it doesn't work, but i'm wondering if there is a way that can let me get the value inserted and use it just like a dimensional member. What are the ways that can let user input value that can be used in a business rule? I think one is by using SmartList, is there any other ways? Maybe using variables?? As an alternative i tried to use Prompt Variable but there are too many members on which the rule must run.
Please help me, i wanna know if i can or not let the user input the member on which the rule must run...
Thank all guys
Bye
Maurizio

Thanks EW for your answer,
YesI could use SmartList even if i think it's very tough to handle. My experience on using SmartList in caclc script is not so good. I try to enter in details of my requirement:
I have 500 account members.
For each one, I have to calculate the monthly budget by sharing the amount among the months. The user wants to calculate it on the basis of the actual flow(over the months) of an unspecified account of the prior year. The unspecified account must be inserted in a data form.
So, i could use a Smart List but it colud be of 500 elements and then i should make a rule with as many IF as how many are the accounts. Or im wrong? The only way to use smart list dynamically in a business rule is by referring its values in a IF condition. Or i'm wrong.
I tried to use execution variable ma it seems don't work. In this case the user must pay attention to write the account correctly, otherwise as you say the rule doesn't work.
The value in PD0A020 is "PD0A000" (that is a dimensional member). The value in PD0A000 is "hello". In PD0A040 the rule returns "PD0A000" and not "hello" as i would. The function @Member appears to be not able to catch the dimensional member by the value in PD0A000.
{Example}="test"->"Input"->"Scenario_test"->"FY12"->"PD0A020";
Fix("test1","Input","Scenario_test","FY12")
"PD0A040"=@Member({Example});
endfix
So, my doubt is: is it possible for Essbase/Planning to use the value inserted in a data form and to turn it in a dimensional member? What are the practicable ways to let the user input/choose the member on which makes the rule run?
Thank you Ew, thank you guys
Maurizio

Business Rules not visible sometimes-via web and smartview

We use EPM 11.1.2.
we have a unique problem-Business rules (associated with forms)sometimes fail to appear either via web or smartview for our users.After logging out and back in,sometimes they appear again.
If we explicitly 'disconnect all' from smartview, close Excel, and go back in again, then the rules are visible.
It is becoming hard to tell when the users can or cannot see the business rules.
All users have the right provisioning-interactive user.
Has anybody seen this kind of behavior before?
We had a similar issue a while back-with eas web versus eas desktop client. Oracle gave us a specific fix for the eas business rules problem.
Edited by: 784749 on Sep 26, 2011 11:59 AM

Thats the strange thing; We use (native) groups to provision. This works fine for the other 5 users.
But even if I provision this one user for the Business Rules, they remain invisible to this user. (in Planning)
I discovered this morning that this user can create a new BR, but when I try to open it in AAS console I get an error
"Exception occured, Please check your log file for details."
Unfortunately, the log doesn't provide any more details. (even if I set the level to Debug)

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