Smudges "Inside" 20" Cinema Display

There seem to be smudges inside my screen. I cannot clean them off (or at least what I have tried has not worked), and they truly appear to be "inside" the screen, behind the surface I can clean. The marks almost look like a water droplet making a trail down the screen.
Any ideas on how to fix this?
Thanks

Take it to an EXPERIENCED repair shop.

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Hi MFG,
Welcome to the discussions.
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Perhaps it's just the way of flat screen monitors, but I just bought a 20" cinema display and I have to say it's pretty disappointing. Graphics look pretty good but text looks like somebody smudged it with their thumb. Even the Apple logo that comes on when you boot up looks really low res, especially compared to my old VGA monitor. Plus -- you'll probably think I'm crazy -- but the whites are so bright it hurts the eye after a while to look at it, like staring at a light bulb. I wish there was some way to tone down the brightness. Anyway I went to Best Buy and looked at other displays and none looked all that sharp, so I guess that's the way of the world these days.
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