Snapping of Audio Regions

Good Day Everyone,
My primary tool for audio editing for the last 8 years has been Pro Tools TDM on a Mac G4. I have begun using Logic Pro as an additional editing environment, but I'm hitting a few snags (my own ignorance, of course) when dealing with moving and snapping audio regions.
In Pro Tools, I constantly perform these functions:
Snapping start of region to marker position.
Snapping end of region to marker position.
Snapping start of region to end of another region on another track.
Snapping end of region to the start of another region on another track.
Creating sync points on region, so other regions can snap to it.
I am having problems performing these editing functions in Logic Pro.
Any advice or examples would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Albert.

as long as you're happy to work slightly differently, you can do all of these functions easily and often more quickly in logic (sometimes not).
you will need to assign key commands. can i just say; it is with key commands and the various editing methods that make logic really powerful. take a while to really go through the key commands and check what you can assign. an awful lot of functionality is locked up in there, not accessible through the menus.
Snapping start of region to marker position.
assuming you know how to set markers in logic, set a key command for "goto marker #" or "next/previous marker".
set a key command for "pick-up clock; move event to song position line".
simply hit the marker you want, select the object (or event - it works with almost everything) and hit your pick-up clock key command.
Snapping end of region to marker position
do the above, then open the sample edit window (double click or set a key command). drag the anchor point to the end of the region * (you may want to set key commands for zoom levels as you may not see the end of your region and dragging the sliders all the time can be...well...a drag)
Snapping start of region to end of another region on another track
if you have "smart snap" enabled, the SPL will snap to the end of the region. you can then use the above techniques to move your other region there. *
Snapping end of region to the start of another region on another track
you can set a key command (also very useful) "goto object event" which will move the SPL to the beginning of the note/region/whatever. you can use this in conjunction with the other techniques i have mentioned or again just use "smart snap". just drag the SPL along the object and it will snap to beginning ends and anchor points.
Creating sync points on region, so other regions can snap to it
you can only create one sync point per region which are called anchors. so if you have a spot in the region you want other files to sync to, move the anchor point there, snap the SPL to it and then you can use the pick-up clock command to move the objects to the SPL/sync point.
other ways of moving regions/objects is by dragging, control-dragging, shift-control-dragging, for ever increasing resolution. try these they're great. also use all of this in conjunction with control-drag enclose to select an area to zzoom up on and control click the background to zoom back to normal.
* bear in mind that logic is a music programme and so is designed to be used in a musical way. therefore it is much easier and designed to be used in terms of bars and beats, rather than beginnings and ends of regions. if your audio files were recorded in a musical way and match the underlying tempo, then moving your audio files would be as simple as moving to the right spot in the bar.

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