Snow base station and windows vista

I have a Snow airport base station which has been happily sending its wireless signal to my 4 Macs for the past several years without any significant problems. Recently, I came to inherit a Windows notebook running Vista that I cannot connect to my wireless network despite my best efforts. The notebook is able to see the network without difficulty but cannot connect wirelessly to the internet.
I also have an Airport express which I use to extend to range of the network, but this is not recognized by the notebook either.
I have been able to connect this notebook without difficulty to a wireless network at my local Apple store, as well as at my neighbors, where at each an Airport extreme serves as a router.
I suspect that the Vista notebook is not recognizing the Snow airport router and that if I want to connect to the internet, I will ultimately have to upgrade to the Airport extreme. I post this to see if anyone has had a similar problem and can give directions for a fix before I buy an Airport extreme as a last resort.

Hello adharris. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
I suspect the problem is with wireless encryption. I assume, since your using a Snow base station, that your Snow's wireless network is encrypted using WEP ... correct? If this is so, please try (temporarily) disabling wireless encryption and then see if you your Vista laptop can connect. If the laptop can now connect, you will need to provide the Equivalent Network Password to the PC in order for it to connect. (ref: AirPort Extreme: Getting an equivalent network password)
A few things to consider about the Dual Ethernet (aka Snow) AirPort base station (ABS):
o The latest firmware for this base station is v4.09.
o There is no WPA support. Only the older WEP wireless encryption protocols are supported.
o The Snow's WAN port is only 10 Mbps. If your ISP connection is faster than that, the WAN port will limit the connection speed.
o The Snow will only operate in the 802.11b radio mode which is limited to a theoretical maximum of 11 Mbps.

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But the Windows XP laptops don't
seem to work. They claim the signal strength is too
low (they are within 2 feet of each other). When we
initially set it up we used WPA personnel with a
password, but the Windows laptop said something about
a WEP 40 or 108bit key or password?
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the Airport Base Station to WEP... But no
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