Snow Leopard boot time increased after software update

I don't know if somebody else is having the same problem, but it has happened to me two times after clean installations.
Snow Leopard was booting faster than Leopard in my MBP 2,4, 4gb ram and 7200rpm hard drive. It took around 30-35 seconds. But after installing the basic apps: iWork, iLife and its updates, it increased to 50 seconds.
I think that's a big difference. I thought something was wrong so I cleaned installed again without restoring a Time machine backup. TOTALLY clean installation. It's been even faster for a week always booting in less than 35 secs.
Today, I run the iTunes update and voilá... it takes 50-55 seconds to boot up.
Is there anybody else experiencing the same issue? I'm not a paranoid and never measured the boot time, but 35 seconds to 55 is a big difference and you really feel it is slower than before.

Same here. Since upgrading to 10.6.1. Much slower boot times now on my Mac Pro desktop. And when I launch Safari it takes about 20 seconds before my home page completely loads.
My Macbook still boots very quickly. And Safari loads incredibly fast (less than a second)..

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I have a mac book pro that i bought in late 2009. My current software is snow leopard version 10.5.8. I would like to get the new lion operating system but I cant without first getting the latest version of snow leopard. it doesnt show on software updat

I have a mac book pro that i bought in late 2009. My current software is snow leopard version 10.5.8. I would like to get the new lion operating system but I cant without first getting the latest version of snow leopard. however when I go to update my software it doesnt show that any update is available.

10.5.8 is Leopard, not Snow Leopard. You need the Snow Leopard DVD;
You can get it only by phone now from Apple.
In the US, call 1-800-MY-APPLE and ask for a sales assistant. Last quoted price was $19.99 for the single-user and $29.99 for the family licence.
For other countries, check here; http://support.apple.com/kb/HE57
Don't forget to ask for Sales; the tech support guys can't help.
If you want Lion, rather than Mountain Lion, the same Sales team can give you a download code to use at the Mac AppStore.
To get the App Store, you need to update your new Snow Leopard from 10.6.3 (which is the version on the installer) to 10.6.8 with the combo update; http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1399
Be warned that the upgrades will render a lot of older software unusable, and will need new drivers for printers and scanners in all likelihood.

After upgrading to Snow Leopard I can't use software update or firefox, and the internet is slow

I'm getting big problems. After installing Mac OS X Leopard from my usb, I had to since my disk drive stopped working, I had the following problems. 1) Firefox stopped working. 2) Software Update stopped working 3) Chrome runs really slow. 4) Safari stopped working 5) Even on Chrome I can't access any email, including; gmail; hotmail; yahoo; etc...
When software update loads it says checking... but it stays at 10% for at least 1 hr. I reinstalled SL once and it did something different, suddenly my wifi stopped working, and rapidly fluxtuated.
What the heck is going on?

Yes LS needs a update to work with the changes in 10.6.8, so does Parallels.
Read my backup, bootable clones, troubleshooting, performance, wifi security and restore info/advice here
https://discussions.apple.com/message/16276201#16276201

My Xeon Tower with Snow Leopard doesnt request the recent software update

I have the Xeon Quad tower, with latest Snow Leopard, and it does not seem offer the new performance and iMOvie updates?
Any ideas?
TIA

If you are talking about the Performance Update 1.0.
None of the MacPros are listed in the performance update.
Products Affected
MacBook Air (Mid 2009), MacBook Pro (17-inch, Mid 2009), MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2009), MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2009), MacBook Pro (15-inch, 2.53GHz, Mid 2009), iMac (20-inch, Mid 2009), MacBook Pro (17-inch, Early 2009), MacBook (13-inch, Early 2009), MacBook (13-inch, Mid 2009), MacBook (13-inch, Aluminum, Late 2008), MacBook Air (Late 2008), MacBook Pro (15-inch, Late 2008), iMac (24-inch, Early 2009), iMac (20-inch, Early 2009), Mac mini (Early 2009)

Snow Leopard running slow graphics after reinstallation

Hey everyone,
I have a very strange question. I've been using my Snow Leopard without any problems for quite some time, but a few days ago I decided it was time for a clean install. I installed the Snow Leopard without any problem, used Software Update to update to the latest version, and than I started noticing some graphic problems:
1. Slow UI animations (i.e opening Applications Folder, Minimizing Using Gene Effect, etc.)
2. QuickTime slowness - low fps when I tried playing a movie
3. Adobe Flash problems - when I installed the latest version, Safari seemed to crash by the first sight of Flash on any site. I reinstalled since then and the pre-installed version seems to work
4. In Desktop and Screensaver Preferences I am missing the Translucent Menu Bar option
5. In System Profiler, under Display I have VRAM (Total): 32 MB
It somewhat reminds of the problem described here:
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3479
Only that the resolution is to reinstall, which I did several times with the same DVD I had no problems with before, and nothing seemed to help.
Any ideas how to resolve those problems (well I think they are all related) are appreciated since it is rendering my Snow Leopard pretty much unusable.
Thanks in advance
Message was edited by: CptSlash

Worked it out

Macbook pro (snow leopard) will not boot after software update

I helped my mom buy a Macbook Pro for herself for Christmas. Today, I connected it to her old eMac and used the migration assistant to transfer files over. It was unable to estimate migration time on the only user (after 45 minutes) so I didn't migrate the user. Then I tried to pair her macbook to her new bluetooth keyboard, but no magic happened, so I tried to use the bluetooth setup assistant, which crashed. So I ran a software update, hoping that this would fix whatever the bluetooth problem is. Despite having updated on the 23rd, there were 4 updates. None seemed applicable but I installed them anyway. Now the computer won't boot at all.
Software update said that I had to restart for the updates to take effect, so I restarted. The harddrive went whirrrrrr and the grey screen with the apple logo and the spinning circle displayed. Then the harddrive stopped going whirrrr and 10 minutes later, I started looking on the support site for what to do. I found this:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=10564149&#10564149
Per the instructions in the last post, I fscked the drive (although -f, in accordance with the fsck help). This found no problems. The next suggestion was to boot from the OSX install disk. Only one problem-- there was a disk in the disk drive when the problem occurred and the disk eject button apparently only works while in the gui. I can't install from disk if I can't get the existing disk out of the drive.
So, any other ideas on what I can do to get this machine to boot?
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Hi Jen:
Since it's new, you're entitled to 90 days of phone support (3 years if you buy AppleCare). It sounds to me like you may have some hardware issue(s) going on - you should not have the sorts of issues you're having with a new Mac. Apple will probably be much better and faster about getting you fixed than this board may be able to if that is the case.

10.6.8 won't boot after Software Update

I've installed 10.6.8 via Software Update and the Macbook Pro will not boot, causes a kernel panic. It will boot in Safe Boot however. I've tried installing the combo update as well, no change. Verify disk permissions, no change. Help!
panic(cpu 2 caller 0x2abf6a): Kernel trap at 0x0029f24f, type 14=page fault, registers:
CR0: 0x8001003b, CR2: 0x7aae9000, CR3: 0x00100000, CR4: 0x00000660
EAX: 0x7a6fe06c, EBX: 0xec835381, ECX: 0xfcf7b1e9, EDX: 0x7aae8ffd
CR2: 0x7aae9000, EBP: 0x820ebd18, ESI: 0x00000000, EDI: 0xec835381
EFL: 0x00010202, EIP: 0x0029f24f, CS: 0x00000008, DS: 0x00000010
Error code: 0x00000002
Backtrace (CPU 2), Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
0x820ebb18 : 0x21b837 (0x5dd7fc 0x820ebb4c 0x223ce1 0x0)
0x820ebb68 : 0x2abf6a (0x59e3d0 0x29f24f 0xe 0x59e59a)
0x820ebc48 : 0x2a1a78 (0x820ebc60 0x0 0x820ebd18 0x29f24f)
0x820ebc58 : 0x29f24f (0xe 0x20650048 0x820e0010 0x2a0010)
0x820ebd18 : 0x8255448f (0xfcf7b1e9 0xec835381 0xfcf7b1e9 0xec835381)
0x820ebd58 : 0x82556ef9 (0x588ffd 0x81fcf7b6 0x8255bab0 0x53c996)
0x820ebe18 : 0x543f60 (0xc654100 0xbefdf00 0x1 0x506b76)
0x820ebe78 : 0x542137 (0xbefdf00 0xc654100 0x5e5209 0x1)
0x820ebf28 : 0x5426e9 (0xbefdf00 0xc5873c0 0x0 0x516766)
0x820ebf78 : 0x5443d5 (0xbefdf00 0x0 0x820ebfac 0x1)
0x820ebfc8 : 0x2a179c (0xc61ff90 0x0 0x2a17ab 0xc467000)
      Kernel Extensions in backtrace (with dependencies):
         com.metakine.handsoff.driver(1.2.4)@0x82551000->0x8255ffff
BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task
Mac OS version:
Not yet set
Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun 7 16:33:36 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_I386
System model name: MacBookPro6,1 (Mac-F22589C8)
System uptime in nanoseconds: 1576987135
unloaded kexts:
(none)
loaded kexts:
com.metakine.handsoff.driver    1.2.4
com.apple.driver.MaxTranserSizeOverrideDriver    2.6.1 - last loaded 1338933558
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyEventDriver    201.6
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyboard    201.6
com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUserClient    2.6.8
com.apple.BootCache    31.1
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com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIBlockStorage    1.6.4
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com.apple.driver.AppleSmartBatteryManager    160.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub    4.2.4
com.apple.driver.AppleEFINVRAM    1.4.0
com.apple.driver.AppleAHCIPort    2.1.7
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBEHCI    4.2.4
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBUHCI    4.2.0
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com.apple.driver.AppleRTC    1.3.1
com.apple.driver.AppleHPET    1.5
com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS    1.7
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIEC    1.3.6
com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC    1.4
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagementClient    142.6.0
com.apple.security.sandbox    1
com.apple.security.quarantine    0
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com.apple.iokit.IODVDStorageFamily    1.6
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com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily    2.6.5
com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily    1.3.0

Uninstall the Metakine software then do the following:
Repair the Hard Drive and Permissions
Boot from your Snow Leopard Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Utilities menu. After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list. In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive. If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported click on the Repair Permissions button. Wait until the operation completes, then quit DU and return to the installer.
If DU reports errors it cannot fix, then you will need Disk Warrior and/or Tech Tool Pro to repair the drive. If you don't have either of them or if neither of them can fix the drive, then you will need to reformat the drive and reinstall OS X.
Quit the installer and restart. Now download the Mac OS X 10.6.8 Update Combo and update.

I just restored my 13" MBP i5 at the apple store to the newest version of Lion after issues with a previous Time Machine backup from Snow Leopard- this time I created a new account and just ported files and folders, and now MS Office doesn't work. Help?

I just restored my 13" MBP i5 at the apple store to the newest version of Lion after issues with a previous Time Machine backup from Snow Leopard- this time I created a new account and just ported files and folders, and now MS Office doesn't work.
^^ that's the main problem. Here's the full history.
I bought a new 13" i5 MBP, early 2011 edition. I had an old white Macbook 2.14 ghz core2duo on Snow Leopard. I attempted to port over my time machine backup, but encountered problems in that my User was inaccessible from the new computer after the import finished, and I had to go in and change the root password, etc, and for some reason or another, I couldn't install any programs at all from that administrator's account. By "couldn't" I mean I could install them, but upon installation they would never boot. So, I took it to the apple store and did a clean install from the most up to date Lion OSX. Then, I created a brand new admin account, instead of trying to import the old one, and things seemed great. Then, I just imported my old files from the TM backup, but not any system settings, permissions, or user data. Just my Docs, pics, vids, apps, and itunes stuff.
Here's where things get weird again. I imported this stuff under the name "old", but all of these folders have a red negative sign on them, marking them as restricted. So, from my main admin account, I cannot even peruse these folders. Since I didn't import user data, I can't sign in to the "old" account to change permissions. I already tried to change the permissions from system preferences, but that didn't change anything. And now, for whatever reason, of all the apps that were imported then, MS Office is the only set of apps that does not work. When I click on it, it just says there was a problem and asks if I'd like to send a report to apple. I tried reinstalling it to no avail. I'm an English student, so i really need access to Word. Can anyone help? The Apple store is a major detour for me and would like to fix this issue myself.

Most likely you have Office 2004 which are PPC-only applications and will not work in Lion. Upgrade to Office 2011. Other alternatives are:
Apple's iWork suite (Pages, Numbers, and Keynote.)
Open Office (Office 2007-like suite compatible with OS X.)
NeoOffice (similar to Open Office.)
LibreOffice (a new direction for the Open Office suite.)

IMac 10.10.3 crashed completely after Software Update - Wouldn't boot

Hi,
My iMac Desktop crashed completely and would not startup after software update. I accidentally clicked on the software update and now the desktop is completely dead. It does boot into "Safe Boot" mode upon click the shift button, in the Safe Boot, the keyboard and mouse is hangs and can't type anything in the username/password. Lastly, I tried command line but can find Crash logs in the CrashReporter as pasted below.
System Software Overview:
      System Version: OS X 10.10.3 (14D131)
      Kernel Version: Darwin 14.3.0
      Boot Volume: Macintosh HD
      Boot Mode: Safe
      Computer Name: X2
      User Name: System Administrator (root)
      Secure Virtual Memory: Enabled
      Time since boot: 11 minutes
Diagnostic Report:
X2:DiagnosticReports root# cat Kernel_2015-04-13-183008_X2.panic
Anonymous UUID:
ED5DFD2E-7807-4352-1413-690BEDB208AA
Mon Apr 13 18:29:58 2015
*** Panic Report ***
panic(cpu 6 caller 0xffffff80007bfe45): "Process 1 exec of /sbin/launchd failed, errno 2"@/SourceCache/xnu/xnu-2782.1.97/bsd/kern/kern_exec.c:4060
Backtrace (CPU 6), Frame : Return Address
0xffffff83a4b43df0 : 0xffffff800033a811
0xffffff83a4b43e70 : 0xffffff80007bfe45
0xffffff83a4b43ef0 : 0xffffff8000799368
0xffffff83a4b43f10 : 0xffffff80007dc2b1
0xffffff83a4b43f50 : 0xffffff8000336e46
0xffffff83a4b43f80 : 0xffffff800041eeae
0xffffff83a4b43fa0 : 0xffffff800043a40f
BSD process name corresponding to current thread: init
Boot args: -x
Mac OS version:
Not yet set
Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 14.0.0: Fri Sep 19 00:26:44 PDT 2014; root:xnu-2782.1.97~2/RELEASE_X86_64
Kernel UUID: 89E10306-BC78-3A3B-955C-7C4922577E61
__HIB text base: 0xffffff8000100000
System model name: iMac12,2 (Mac-942B59F58194171B)
System uptime in nanoseconds: 1563758911
last loaded kext at 1443586415: com.apple.driver.AppleIRController    327.5 (addr 0xffffff7f81dbc000, size 28672)
loaded kexts:
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com.apple.BootCache    35
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com.apple.driver.AppleFileSystemDriver    3.0.1
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com.apple.driver.XsanFilter    404
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com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub    705.4.1
com.apple.iokit.AppleBCM5701Ethernet    10.1.2b3
com.apple.driver.AirPort.Atheros40    700.74.5
com.apple.driver.AppleFWOHCI    5.5.2
com.apple.driver.AppleAHCIPort    3.0.7
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBEHCI    705.4.14
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBUHCI    656.4.1
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com.apple.driver.AppleACPIButtons    3.1
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Thank you for the quick response with the link. Unfortunately, it does not have the exact fix for the process launchd:
panic(cpu 6 caller 0xffffff80007bfe45): "Process 1 exec of /sbin/launchd failed, errno 2"@/SourceCache/xnu/xnu-2782.1.97/bsd/kern/kern_panic(cpu 6 caller 0xffffff80007bfe45): "Process 1 exec of /sbin/launchd failed, errno 2"@/SourceCache/xnu/xnu-2782.1.97/bsd/kern/kern_exec.c:4060exec.c:4060,
I had installed ManyCam long time ago but this was removed from the command line after the first crash this morning. Removing ManyCam, didn't fix the problem.

HT5304 Hi Guys, I'm running snow leopard 10.6.3 recently had update which left me with a DMSL launch problem. Rei installed software and now can't connect to Internet with cable or wifi ! can see network and router,. Help

Hi Guys, I'm running snow leopard 10.6.3 recently had update which left me with a DMSL launch problem. Re installed software and now can't connect to Internet with cable or wifi ! can see network and router. Have tried many things and now pulling my hair out !

recently had update
Care to share which update?
Have tried many things
Care to share?
Please detail ALL you have done so far in the way of troubleshooting? Need this info to avoid the been there done that scenarios.

I have upgraded my software to OS X Snow Leopard. Now I want to update that to Lion. How do I do that? When I look at the Lion software available for download on the apple site it all seems to be update software for people already a version of Lion.

I have upgraded my software to OS X Snow Leopard. Now I want to update that to Lion. How do I do that? When I look at the Lion software available for download on the apple site it all seems to be update software for people already a version of Lion.

It has to be 10.6.8 I believe, before you can upgrade to Lion. I found some more info, please check out: http://www.informationweek.com/byte/howto/personal-tech/desktop-os/231001728
Be sure all your programms will work on Lion. Power PC programms do not work anymore (eg Nikon Scan 4 will not work from now on on Mac OS X). Some versions of Canon utilities for camera's do not work, Canon still have to upgrade. For an App Compatibility Table: http://roaringapps.com/apps:table

10.6.8 to 10.8 after software update??

My neighobur called me over to see her iMac because apps were quiting unexpectedly. She told me she had a software update the night before.
In doing a problem solving process I checked her system software and it was 10.8. Didn't occur to me until after hours of searching for other problems, that her current software was 10.6.8.
How in the world did she get 10.8 installed as the current software from an update? All of the installed applications were non functional after this update. I had to back up her HDD to an external I had (she had no time machine) then erase, reformat and reinstall 10.6.8 from her disc.
Anyone else heard of this issue? Was it a fubar update from Apple or something else? It just doesn't seem possible to go from Snow Leopard to Lion from an Apple update.

Thanks for the suggestion(s). These are senior people and very cautious about purchasing anything online.
I will check with her about her account and purchaseses, however it is highly unlikely she purchased it without me being involved.
She was ready to write to Tim Cook!
I guess I'll try to send this problem to Support and have them look into it. This iMac of hers has been the most problematic Apple product I have ever dealt with.

Problem restarting after software update

Computer is fine, drive 40% full, no speed problems...
But it just won't restart after software update runs, nor will it restart or shut down from finder.
Problem solving so far: Safe boot, reset pram, ran disk utility, ran disk repair using install disk, ran fsck -y, ran disk warrior.
Is annoying. ANy ideas anyone? If not, what is the procedure for updating using sudate and terminal, as when I use software update, a force shut down will not install.
ANy ideas folks?

Some general advice on updating:
It is worth noting that it is an extreme rarity for updates to cause upsets to your system, as they have all been extensively beta-tested, but they may well reveal pre-existing ones, particularly those of which you may have been unaware. If you are actually aware of any glitches, make sure they are fixed before proceeding further.
So before you do anything else:
If you can, make a full backup first to an external hard disk. Ideally you should always have a bootable clone of your system that enables you to revert to the previous pre-update state.
Turn off sleep mode for both screen and hard disk.
Disconnect all peripherals except your keyboard and mouse.
1. Repair Permissions (in Disk Utility)
2. Verify the state of your hard disk using Disk Utility. If any faults are reported, restart from your install disk (holding down the C key), go to Disk Utility, and repair your startup disk. Restart again to get back to your startup disk.
At least you can now be reasonably certain that your system does not contain any obvious faults that might cause an update/upgrade to fail.
3. Download the correct version of the COMBO update from the Apple download site.
The Combo updater of Leopard 10.5.8 can be found here:
http://support.apple.com/downloads/MacOS_X_10_5_8_ComboUpdate
If you prefer to download updates via Software Update in the Apple menu (which would ensure that the correct version for your Mac was being downloaded), it is not recommended to allow SU to install major (or even minor) updates automatically. Set Software Update to just download the updater without immediately installing it. There is always the possibility that the combined download and install (which can be a lengthy process) might be interrupted by a power outage or your cat walking across the keyboard, and an interrupted install will almost certainly cause havoc. Once it is downloaded, you can install at a time that suits you. You should make a backup copy of the updater on a CD in case you ever need a reinstall.
Full details about the 10.5.8 update here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3606
More information on using Software Updater here:
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA24901?viewlocale=en_US
Using the Combo updater ensures that all system files changed since the original 10.5.0 are included, and any that may have been missed out or subsequently damaged will be repaired. The Delta updater, although a temptingly smaller download, only takes you from the previous version to the new one, i.e. for example from 10.5.7 to 10.5.8. Software Update will generally download the Delta updater only. The preferable Combo updater needs to be downloaded from Apple's download site.
Now proceed as follows:
4. Close all applications and turn off energy saving and screensaver.
5. Unplug all peripherals except your keyboard and mouse.
6. Install the update/upgrade. Do not under any circumstances interrupt this procedure. Do not do anything else on your computer while it is installing. Be patient.
7. When it ask for a restart to complete the installation, click restart. This can take longer than normal, there are probably thousands of files to overwrite and place in the correct location. Do nothing while this is going on.
8. Once your Mac is awake, repair permissions again, and you should be good to go!
If your Mac seems slightly sluggish or ‘different’, perform a second restart. It can’t hurt and is sometimes efficacious!
9. Open a few of your most used applications and check that all is OK. In this connection please remember that not all manufacturers of third party applications and plug-ins, add-ons, haxies etc, will have had time to do any necessary rewrites to their software to make them compliant with the latest version of your operating system. Give them a weeks or two while you regularly check their websites for updates. This applies particularly to plug-ins for Safari 4.
N.B. Do not attempt to install two different updates at the same time as each may have different routines and requirements. Follow the above recommendations for each update in turn.
Lastly, Apple's own article on the subject of Software Update may also be useful reading:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106695
If you are updating Safari (or just have):
Input Managers from third parties can do as much harm as good. They use a security loophole to reach right into your applications' code and change that code as the application starts up. If you have installed an OS update and Safari is crashing, the very first thing to do is clear out your InputManagers folders (both in your own Library and in the top-level /Library), log out and log back in, and try again.
So, disable all third party add-ons before updating Safari, as they may not have been updated yet for the new version. Add them back one by one. If something goes awry, remove it again and check on the software manufacturer's website for news of an update to match your version of Safari.
Most errors reported here after an update are due to an unrepaired or undetected inherent fault in the system, and/or a third party add-on.
Additional tips on software installation here:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106692
To reiterate, Input Managers reach right into an application and alter its code. This puts the behavior of the affected application outside the control and responsibility of its developers: a recipe for problems. That's not to say that issues absolutely will ensue as a result of Input Managers, but you, as a user, must decide. If the functionality of a specific Input Manager or set thereof is really important to you, you may well choose to assume the associated risk.
Again, the advice is to remove all Input Managers from the following directories:
• /Library/InputManagers
• ~/Library/InputManagers
especially prior to system updates (they can always be added back one-by-one later).

Macbook crashed after software update and won't reboot!

I have installed the latest updates on my 2.16Ghz, 10.5 Leopard, 1Gb MacBook through the software updater. There were 10 new udates inluding iTunes, Macbook security update and some for logic Pro.
The machine crashed with the 'hold the power button' type message which i did! after switching the machine back on, it boots into the Mac OSX setup assistant, so i assume i have lost my data? However, even if i enter all my details and complete the assistant, after clicking 'done', the assistant runs again!!!
I have applecare but they're now closed so i thought i'd see if anyone can help me out as i need it up and running asap.
Thanks,
Chris

Boot from your system install DVD, run Disk First Aid from your Disk Utility and repair your permissions.
-Bmer
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How long to reboot after software update?

I just did a system update and it had to reboot when finished. It got as far as a blue screen with a spinning gear-wheel and that's it. It has been like this for 15 minutes. Is this normal? Will it hurt if I use the power button to shut it off, then restart? It has never taken this long before.

I assume by blue screen and spinning gear you are referring to the shutdown portion of the restart rather than the restart itself. If this be the case then 15 minutes seems a bit long. Normally, I don't like recommending abnormal shutdowns because of the possible problems they can cause, but in this case it should be OK. However, I strongly suggest you first boot from your Snow Leopard DVD and repair the hard drive and permissions:
Repair the Hard Drive and Permissions
Boot from your Snow Leopard Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Utilities menu. After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list. In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive. If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported click on the Repair Permissions button. Wait until the operation completes, then quit DU and return to the installer.
If DU reports errors it cannot fix, then you will need Disk Warrior and/or Tech Tool Pro to repair the drive. If you don't have either of them or if neither of them can fix the drive, then you will need to reformat the drive and reinstall OS X.
This will hopefully assure no disk damage from the abnormal shutdown. If all is OK then restart the computer normally.

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