Snow Leopard, Mail and iCloud - attacked by a Lion

I just received the following email from Apple:
You can now retain your me.com or mac.com address and keep your email
working after MobileMe ends, even if you don’t meet iCloud requirements.
I thought the "Even if you don't meet iCloud requirements" might mean Snow Leopard would be OK, but NO according to a chat with an Apple representative. I'm confused and frustrated.
I have many accounts coming into my Mac Mail - from hotmail, gmail, web email addresses, etc. I use Mac Mail 4.5 as a hub for my home business that I'm trying to get going. Months of work, and been a happy Mobile Me member for years. I'm now familiar with the software I use to work my business, but much would be lost if I move to Lion. Quite honestly, what Lion can offer, I'm not that interested in. I'd just got comfortable and forked out enough money on software etc, then a LION comes along! I want all my mail accounts still to work - ie RECEIVE AND SEND EMAIL from all my accounts
So what to do? (more hours of work caused by Apple's semi-enforced upgrade to Lion? - Am I a lone voice here?)
Thanks for any assistance

The image you uploaded isn't working, but I'm assuming what has happened is your MobileMe account has moved to iCloud - Apple is doing this for you because they are killing MobileMe and replacing it with iCloud - and your OS (Snow Leopard) doesn't have an iCloud setting in Mail.
But it does work.
This website has a step by step walkthrough with pictures. Very easy.
If that doesn't work, try this. The only downside to this, I believe, is that since they are setting it up as a POP account, your read/unread won't be synced. So if you read an email on your iPhone, your Mac won't know it's read. If that's not an issue for you, then go for it.
I hope everything works out for you. I know sometimes these changes can be frustrating, but they're usually for the best in the long run. It's just the transition that can be tough.

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