Snow Leopard on Mac Pro Hard Drive - question?

Hi all
Been talking to a reseller who is offering me a reasonable deal on a Mac Pro.
I have asked that he install the Snow Leopard partition on a 2TB 7200rpm drive [Bay 1], but he has said that it can only be installed on a 1TB drive.
As I understand it, you can install Snow Leopard on a drive of this size (this is the same model of drive offered on the Apple store when you get a mac pro made to order.)
I was hoping to get this cleared up, so would appreciate some advice =)
Thanks all!

Good grief the nonesense... you can install it on any drive, any size, there never has been a problem or limit, last time there was, it was PATA (or PITA) 128GB limitation on old G4s and an old OS X.
The reseller is smoking a pipe and seems to have lost his bearings. Stay clear of this uninformed seller.

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