Snow Leopard Sever versus SBS 2011

Just started evaluating SBS 2011. I have been setting up SBS servers since SBS 2000 and have many many years using this however licensing has always bugged me with SBS server and in 2011 the story is no different. It is an 'if, and + but' licensing scheme as I like to refer to it and I have seen instances where volume license professionals and SBS consultants have got this wrong. In a recent case i was proved to be correct in my licensing setup at a client site and the license audit proved wrong - thats how confusing it is. However my clients heads where left spinning with it all and the hours it took to a lot of hours to resolve.
Compared to the Mac Server license model then you would wonder why people tolerate this at all. What does SBS Server have over Snow Leopard Server other than Exchange and how does Mail services in Snow Leopard compare?

Firebird74 wrote:
 Compared to the Mac Server license model then you would wonder why people tolerate this at all. What does SBS Server have over Snow Leopard Server other than Exchange and how does Mail services in Snow Leopard compare?
"Other than Exchange" is huge.  Not that I'm a huge fan of Exchange (it has it's own issues - no software is perfect), but especially with the Mac having a full Outlook client, having in-house Exchange can be VERY nice.  Exchange 2010 Outlook Web Access (OWA) is also increadibly nice and feature rich.  You almost don't even need Outlook anymore.  Indeed, the typical non-power user would probably be just as happy with OWA as full Outlook.  The only other system with as feature rich webmail would be Lotus Domino (and if you want to debate Lotus Note/Domino I will be more than happy to - not in this thread tho).
Here's why I continue to deploy SBS - and now, especially SBS 2011, to the non-profits I support.  First of all, it's cheap for non-profits.  Microsoft has a very gracious charity licensing program.  Second, SBS "just works".  I often wonder how the SBS division in Microsoft survives since they actually seem to be customer focused   They know who their customers are and their product is targeted squarely at that market.  I have been using SBS since the SBS 2000 days, and the progress the product has made over the last decade is simply astonishing.
Once you get past the initial server install and the hour and a half of updates and reboots (typical Microsoft product!) you have an almost 90% functioning and integrated Windows network with a full directory, feature rich email, powerful group calendaring, full remote access for email, collaboration, files and remote access to your office computers, collaboration through sharepoint, file sharing, bare-metal restore capable incremental backup - the list goes on.  The amount of stuff packed into SBS is truely astonishing.
Client machines are joined automatically.  Powerful functionality such as folder re-direction and syncronization of local files are a few mouse clicks away.  Health montioring and patching of the network is fully integrated into the managmenet console and "so easy a caveman could do it".  With a few more clicks SBS will email you status and error reports - great for admins like me who are part time and on demand.
And the new remote access features of SBS-2011 are really, really nice.  Heck, I can even remote into my SBS server from my Mac now!
Yes, with Mac OSX Server I could probalby get similar services and I would have to give up a few things like automatic remote access to the client machines, but there would be allot more manual integration and at the end of the day SBS still offers more.  And the hardware - the server I built for $2K would have been double that and still lacked features like redundant power   This is the most dissapointing thing about Apple's recent moves with the discontinuation of their server hardware.
So it comes down to what is important for you.  If you have Windows based applications, SBS can be a no-brainer.  Especially if you have anything that relies on SQL server.  If your a typical office with light email, light useage of a calendar and basic file sharing then Mac OSX server can also be a viable solution.  It won't be as tightly integrated and you will have to figure more stuff out, but it is cheaper - especially if you aren't a non-profit.  Yes, Microsoft's licensing can be confusing, but if you have a good reseller that understands small business - especially ones like Software House or Software One.
Having said that, I'm still going to work with a friend who owns a small business to upgrade his SBS 2003 box to 2011.  He has a critical business application that runs on SQL server so he's stuck there, and other applications like QuickBooks only work with Windows servers.  That and they are heavy, heavy users of email and group calendaring.  As much as I like Mail and iCal, even with some of the third party add-ons to iCal it just can't stand up to what you get in true enterprise-class systems.
And finally, if I get into trouble, or if I get hit by a bus and the organizations I support need help, they are far more likely to find folks who understand Microsoft than Mac OSX server.  Unfortunatly, that is a critical factor for many organizations.
I don't think it has to stay this way forever, but for right now MS has a better solution for small businesses.
SBS Essentials is also an interesting product.  If you have a smattering of Windows desktops and need basic file sharing, Essentials is a really great deal.  Biggest reason: Essentials can do incremental backups of all your workstations and it has built-in data-deduplication so you don't get 25 copies of the OS, applications, redundant data files, etc.  Before essentials, I installed Windows Home Server to backup up to 10 machines - I have 10 workstations backed up in less than 150GB because of the data-deduplication functionality.  This is enabled by NTFS shadow copy service - Apple really needs some sort of block level snapshot capability in their file system.  It would enhance TimeMachine and make stuff like this trivial.
Anyway, those are a few of my thoughts after supporting several home and small business networks - often of mixes with Mac's and Windows boxes.

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    1   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x9185375e _pthread_cond_wait + 1191
    2   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x918553f8 pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 73
    3   com.apple.JavaScriptCore                0x980fc551 ***::ThreadCondition::timedWait(***::Mutex&, double) + 81
    4   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x91853259 _pthread_start + 345
    5   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x918530de thread_start + 34
    Thread 12:
    0   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x91825afa mach_msg_trap + 10
    1   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x91826267 mach_msg + 68
    2   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x916702df __CFRunLoopRun + 2079
    3   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x9166f3c4 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 452
    4   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x9166f1f1 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 97
    5   com.apple.Foundation                    0x92262224 +[NSURLConnection(NSURLConnectionReallyInternal) _resourceLoadLoop:] + 329
    6   com.apple.Foundation                    0x922294c4 -[NSThread main] + 45
    7   com.apple.Foundation                    0x92229474 __NSThread__main__ + 1499
    8   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x91853259 _pthread_start + 345
    9   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x918530de thread_start + 34
    Thread 13:
    0   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x91825afa mach_msg_trap + 10
    1   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x91826267 mach_msg + 68
    2   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x916702df __CFRunLoopRun + 2079
    3   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x9166f3c4 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 452
    4   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x91675304 CFRunLoopRun + 84
    5   com.apple.iTunes                        0x0000a968 0x1000 + 39272
    6   com.apple.iTunes                        0x0091e3ee 0x1000 + 9556974
    7   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x91853259 _pthread_start + 345
    8   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x918530de thread_start + 34
    Thread 14:
    0   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x91853aa2 __semwait_signal + 10
    1   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x9185375e _pthread_cond_wait + 1191
    2   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x918553f8 pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 73
    3   com.apple.iTunes                        0x00051103 0x1000 + 327939
    4   com.apple.iTunes                        0x00050fbf 0x1000 + 327615
    5   com.apple.iTunes                        0x00050f5b 0x1000 + 327515
    6   com.apple.iTunes                        0x00050dae 0x1000 + 327086
    7   com.apple.iTunes                        0x0091e3ee 0x1000 + 9556974
    8   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x91853259 _pthread_start + 345
    9   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x918530de thread_start + 34
    Thread 15:
    0   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x91825afa mach_msg_trap + 10
    1   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x91826267 mach_msg + 68
    2   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x916702df __CFRunLoopRun + 2079
    3   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x9166f3c4 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 452
    4   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x91675304 CFRunLoopRun + 84
    5   com.apple.iTunes                        0x0000a968 0x1000 + 39272
    6   com.apple.iTunes                        0x0091e3ee 0x1000 + 9556974
    7   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x91853259 _pthread_start + 345
    8   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x918530de thread_start + 34
    Thread 16:  JavaScriptCore::BlockFree
    0   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x91853aa2 __semwait_signal + 10
    1   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x9185375e _pthread_cond_wait + 1191
    2   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x918532b1 pthread_cond_timedwait$UNIX2003 + 72
    3   com.apple.JavaScriptCore                0x980fc59c ***::ThreadCondition::timedWait(***::Mutex&, double) + 156
    Thread 17:
    0   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x91825afa mach_msg_trap + 10
    1   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x91826267 mach_msg + 68
    2   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x916702df __CFRunLoopRun + 2079
    3   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x9166f3c4 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 452
    4   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x91675304 CFRunLoopRun + 84
    5   com.apple.iTunes                        0x0000a968 0x1000 + 39272
    6   com.apple.iTunes                        0x0091e3ee 0x1000 + 9556974
    7   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x91853259 _pthread_start + 345
    8   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x918530de thread_start + 34
    Thread 18:
    0   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x91844ac6 select$DARWIN_EXTSN + 10
    1   com.apple.AirTrafficHost                0x1ef02d49 _readDictionary + 246
    2   com.apple.AirTrafficHost                0x1ef03583 ATProcessLinkCopyMessageFromChild + 180
    3   com.apple.AirTrafficHost                0x1ef02247 ATHostConnectionReadMessage + 297
    4   com.apple.iTunes                        0x00225dd2 0x1000 + 2248146
    5   com.apple.iTunes                        0x0091e3ee 0x1000 + 9556974
    6   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x91853259 _pthread_start + 345
    7   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x918530de thread_start + 34
    Thread 19:
    0   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x91844ac6 select$DARWIN_EXTSN + 10
    1   com.apple.AirTrafficHost                0x1ef02d49 _readDictionary + 246
    2   com.apple.AirTrafficHost                0x1ef03583 ATProcessLinkCopyMessageFromChild + 180
    3   com.apple.AirTrafficHost                0x1ef02247 ATHostConnectionReadMessage + 297
    4   com.apple.iTunes                        0x00225dd2 0x1000 + 2248146
    5   com.apple.iTunes                        0x0091e3ee 0x1000 + 9556974
    6   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x91853259 _pthread_start + 345
    7   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x918530de thread_start + 34
    Thread 20:
    0   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x91825afa mach_msg_trap + 10
    1   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x91826267 mach_msg + 68
    2   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x916702df __CFRunLoopRun + 2079
    3   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x9166f3c4 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 452
    4   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x91675304 CFRunLoopRun + 84
    5   com.apple.CoreMedia                     0x98b3537e FigThreadGlobalNetworkBufferingRunloop + 149
    6   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x91853259 _pthread_start + 345
    7   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x918530de thread_start + 34
    Thread 21:  com.apple.coremedia.asyncio
    0   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x91853aa2 __semwait_signal + 10
    1   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x9185375e _pthread_cond_wait + 1191
    2   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x918553f8 pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 73
    3   com.apple.CoreMedia                     0x98b36c6f WaitOnCondition + 19
    4   com.apple.CoreMedia                     0x98b36f4d FigSemaphoreWaitRelative + 173
    5   com.apple.MediaToolbox                  0x958cd1a5 FigAIORequestThread + 438
    6   com.apple.CoreMedia                     0x98b37f7b figThreadMain + 340
    7   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x91853259 _pthread_start + 345
    8   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x918530de thread_start + 34
    Thread 22:
    0   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x9184b412 __workq_kernreturn + 10
    1   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x9184b9a8 _pthread_wqthread + 941
    2   libSystem.B.dylib                       0x9184b5c6 start_wqthread + 30
    Thread 23:
    0   libz.1.dylib                            0x9aadde83 inflate + 95
    1   libPng.dylib                            0x97f18993 _cg_png_read_row + 730
    2   com.apple.ImageIO.framework             0x9a15e8d3 copyImageBlockSetPNG + 4017
    3   com.apple.ImageIO.framework             0x9a15a005 ImageProviderCopyImageBlockSetCallback + 174
    4   com.apple.CoreGraphics                  0x93b6852b CGImageProviderCopyImageBlockSet + 228
    5   com.apple.CoreGraphics                  0x93b6cd3c img_blocks_create + 348
    6   com.apple.CoreGraphics                  0x93b6cbc1 img_blocks_extent + 85
    7   com.apple.CoreGraphics                  0x93b05a4e img_data_lock + 8882
    8   com.apple.CoreGraphics                  0x93b02b4a CGSImageDataLock + 172
    9   libRIP.A.dylib                          0x9013d751 ripc_AcquireImage + 2446
    10  libRIP.A.dylib                          0x9013b3c6 ripc_DrawImage + 1245
    11  com.apple.CoreGraphics                  0x93b027c4 CGContextDrawImage + 450
    12  com.apple.iTunes                        0x003a5014 0x1000 + 3817492
    13  com.apple.iTunes                        0x003a5ae9 0x1000 + 3820265
    14  com.apple.iTunes                        0x0026b3ab 0x1000 + 2532267
    15  com.apple.iTunes                        0x0026a375 0x1000 + 2528117
    16  com.apple.iTunes                        0x002698eb 0x1000 + 2525419
    17  com.apple.iTunes                        0x0026ae94 0x1000 + 2530964
    18  com.apple.iTunes                        0x0026847d 0x1000 + 2520189
    19  com.apple.iTunes                        0x00278e1d 0x1000 + 2588189
    20  com.apple.iTunes                        0x002793e6 0x1000 + 2589670
    21  com.apple.iTunes                        0x00279796 0x1000 + 2590614
    22  com.apple.iTunes                        0x00279877 0x1000 + 2590839
    23  com.apple.iTunes                        0x00192af4 0x1000 + 1645300
    24  com.apple.iTunes                        0x002782a6 0x1000 + 2585254
    25  com.apple.iTunes                        0x002783fb 0x1000 + 2585595
    26  com.apple.iTunes                        0x0027aa14 0x1000 + 2595348
    27  com.apple.iTunes                        0x00050e30 0x1000 + 327216
    28  com.apple.iTunes                        0x0091e3ee 0x1000 + 9556974
    29  libSystem.B.dylib                       0x91853259 _pthread_start + 345
    30  libSystem.B.dylib                       0x918530de thread_start + 34
    Thread 24 Crashed:
    0   libRIP.A.dylib                          0x901608c6 ripc_RemoveEntry + 23
    1   libRIP.A.dylib                          0x9013d7b9 ripc_AcquireImage + 2550
    2   libRIP.A.dylib                          0x9013b3c6 ripc_DrawImage + 1245
    3   com.apple.CoreGraphics                  0x93b027c4 CGContextDrawImage + 450
    4   com.apple.iTunes                        0x003a5014 0x1000 + 3817492
    5   com.apple.iTunes                        0x003a5bc2 0x1000 + 3820482
    6   com.apple.iTunes                        0x00129ee6 0x1000 + 1216230
    7   com.apple.iTunes                        0x00128c72 0x1000 + 1211506
    8   com.apple.iTunes                        0x0012c855 0x1000 + 1226837
    9   com.apple.iTunes                        0x005c1a23 0x1000 + 6031907
    10  com.apple.iTunes                        0x005c8eb8 0x1000 + 6061752
    11  com.apple.iTunes                        0x005c8fa4 0x1000 + 6061988
    12  com.apple.iTunes                        0x005c5574 0x1000 + 6047092
    13  com.apple.iTunes                        0x001c88b1 0x1000 + 1865905
    14  com.apple.iTunes                        0x001c8703 0x1000 + 1865475
    15  com.apple.iTunes                        0x001c8599 0x1000 + 1865113
    16  com.apple.iTunes                        0x00195f38 0x1000 + 1658680
    17  com.apple.iTunes                        0x00275919 0x1000 + 2574617
    18  com.apple.iTunes                        0x00275b01 0x1000 + 2575105
    19  com.apple.iTunes                        0x00279906 0x1000 + 2590982
    20  com.apple.iTunes                        0x00192af4 0x1000 + 1645300
    21  com.apple.iTunes                        0x002782a6 0x1000 + 2585254
    22  com.apple.iTunes                        0x002783fb 0x1000 + 2585595
    23  com.apple.iTunes                        0x0027aa14 0x1000 + 2595348
    24  com.apple.iTunes                        0x00050e30 0x1000 + 327216
    25  com.apple.iTunes                        0x0091e3ee 0x1000 + 9556974
    26  libSystem.B.dylib                       0x91853259 _pthread_start + 345
    27  libSystem.B.dylib                       0x918530de thread_start + 34
    Thread 25:
    0   libz.1.dylib                            0x9aadd38b inflateBack + 4635
    1   libz.1.dylib                            0x9aadf09b inflate + 4727
    2   libPng.dylib                            0x97f18993 _cg_png_read_row + 730
    3   com.apple.ImageIO.framework             0x9a15e8d3 copyImageBlockSetPNG + 4017
    4   com.apple.ImageIO.framework             0x9a15a005 ImageProviderCopyImageBlockSetCallback + 174
    5   com.apple.CoreGraphics                  0x93b6852b CGImageProviderCopyImageBlockSet + 228
    6   com.apple.CoreGraphics                  0x93b6cd3c img_blocks_create + 348
    7   com.apple.CoreGraphics                  0x93b6cbc1 img_blocks_extent + 85
    8   com.apple.CoreGraphics                  0x93b05a4e img_data_lock + 8882
    9   com.apple.CoreGraphics                  0x93b02b4a CGSImageDataLock + 172
    10  libRIP.A.dylib                          0x9013d751 ripc_AcquireImage + 2446
    11  libRIP.A.dylib                          0x9013b3c6 ripc_DrawImage + 1245
    12  com.apple.CoreGraphics                  0x93b027c4 CGContextDrawImage + 450
    13  com.apple.iTunes                        0x003a5014 0x1000 + 3817492
    14  com.apple.iTunes                        0x003a5ae9 0x1000 + 3820265
    15  com.apple.iTunes                        0x0026b3ab 0x1000 + 2532267
    16  com.apple.iTunes                        0x0026a375 0x1000 + 2528117
    17  com.apple.iTunes                        0x002698eb 0x1000 + 2525419
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    19  com.apple.iTunes                        0x0026847d 0x1000 + 2520189
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    21  com.apple.iTunes                        0x002793e6 0x1000 + 2589670
    22  com.apple.iTunes                        0x00279796 0x1000 + 2590614
    23  com.apple.iTunes                        0x00279877 0x1000 + 2590839
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    25  com.apple.iTunes                        0x002782a6 0x1000 + 2585254
    26  com.apple.iTunes                        0x002783fb 0x1000 + 2585595
    27  com.apple.iTunes                        0x0027aa14 0x1000 + 2595348
    28  com.apple.iTunes                        0x00050e30 0x1000 + 327216
    29  com.apple.iTunes                        0x0091e3ee 0x1000 + 9556974
    30  libSystem.B.dylib                       0x91853259 _pthread_start + 345
    31  libSystem.B.dylib                       0x918530de thread_start + 34
    Thread 26:
    0   libz.1.dylib                            0x9aadd358 inflateBack + 4584
    1   libz.1.dylib                            0x9aadf09b inflate + 4727
    2   libPng.dylib                            0x97f18993 _cg_png_read_row + 730
    3   com.apple.ImageIO.framework             0x9a15e8d3 copyImageBlockSetPNG + 4017
    4   com.apple.ImageIO.framework             0x9a15a005 ImageProviderCopyImageBlockSetCallback + 174
    5   com.apple.CoreGraphics                  0x93b6852b CGImageProviderCopyImageBlockSet + 228
    6   com.apple.CoreGraphics                  0x93b6cd3c img_blocks_create + 348
    7   com.apple.CoreGraphics                  0x93b6cbc1 img_blocks_extent + 85
    8   com.apple.CoreGraphics                  0x93b05a4e img_data_lock + 8882
    9   com.apple.CoreGraphics                  0x93b02b4a CGSImageDataLock + 172
    10  libRIP.A.dylib                          0x9013d751 ripc_AcquireImage + 2446
    11  libRIP.A.dylib                          0x9013b3c6 ripc_DrawImage + 1245
    12  com.apple.CoreGraphics                  0x93b027c4 CGContextDrawImage + 450
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    19  com.apple.iTunes                        0x0026847d 0x1000 + 2520189
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    24  com.apple.iTunes                        0x00192af4 0x1000 + 1645300
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    30  libSystem.B.dylib                       0x91853259 _pthread_start + 345
    31  libSystem.B.dylib                       0x918530de thread_start + 34
    Thread 24 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
      eax: 0x0000000c  ebx: 0x9013cdd4  ecx: 0x0000000c  edx: 0x1ebb9530
      edi: 0x1ebb9530  esi: 0x1ebbb21c  ebp: 0xb01842d8  esp: 0xb01842d0
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       ds: 0x00000023   es: 0x00000023   fs: 0x00000023   gs: 0x0000000f
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