SNP orders to PPDS orders

Dear Experts,
The system appears to have converted a number of SNP orders to PPDS while retaining the SNP orders too.but the orders should not have been converted to PPDS although they are outside the SNP horizon.
What could be the reason?
Kindly suggest the way out.
Regards,
Srinivas.S

Hi,
Please check the settings in the heuristics SAP_SNP_SNGL(Individual Conversion SNP --> PP/DS) or SAP_SNP_MULT, whatever you are using.
PPDS horizon is relevent for the conversion and SNP horizon may not be relevant.
The details are as below:
The conversion horizon for SNP to PPDS is decided as below.
Conversion Hprizon
The offset and the PP/DS horizon together define the conversion horizon, that is, the period in which you want to convert Supply Network Planning (SNP) orders and Capable-To-Match Planning (CTM) orders into Production Planning and Detailed Scheduling (PP/DS) orders:
Conversion horizon = PP/DS horizon + offset
You must specify a positive value for the offset. The conversion horizon begins on today's date and continues for the relevant number of calendar days into the future. So that the system converts an SNP or CTM order into a PP/DS order, the start date/time of the order must be within the conversion horizon. If you want to extend the conversion horizon to the end of the SNP or CTM planning period in which the end of the conversion horizon lies, you enter a daily buckets profile.
Hope this helps.
Regards
Datta

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Please check the settings in the heuristics SAP_SNP_SNGL(Individual Conversion SNP --> PP/DS) or SAP_SNP_MULT, whatever you are using.
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