SNP planned order deleted in APO, but not in R/3.

OK Guru's,
We have a situation where during the weekend SNP planning runs, SNP Planned orders are deleted in APO, but the order is never deleted in R/3. The change pointer is not in CPP and there are no failed queues. Also, when you run CCR on planned orders, we will get an error on some orders saying "Not in APO" and the only option to reconcile that order is to "Send to APO". The option that should exist is "delete in R/3" becuase the deletion never occured in R/3.
If you send the order back to APO, the order will show in the "Production Confirmed" line of the Planning Book. This is because APO is thinking that this order is an order that was created in R/3 when in fact is it really is a SNP planned order.
Any clues to why this would happen?
thanks,
Brian

How are you getting the SNP Planned Orders to R/3 in the first place.
If you are transferring them using /SAPAPO/RRP7 then I guesss its a manual transfer and system does not consider SNP Planned Order deletion flag relevant for transfer to R/3.
You will need to look into CIF enhancement to send the deletions to R/3.
Normally SNP Planned Orders are not relevant for transfer to R/3 unless its replaced or converted to a PPDS planned order.
Somnath

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Please suggest remedial/corrective actions to get this issue sorted.
The job details for the deletion of past purchase requisitions.
The job is run with the following variant details:
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Edited by: Blue Lotus on Mar 14, 2011 5:51 PM

Do you run the CCR on a daily basis. If so do you see the "reqs missing in R/3" in the CCR ?
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Hi Edgar,
Yes, when your resource reflects the addional capacity of the holiday turned working day, then it is expected to be considered for the SNP planned order.
Instead of SNP heuristics, you may try to check interactively in SNP planning book, if manual order creation in the bucket works out.
Since this is a mutlimix resource , it can also be checked if in PPDS planned order can be created on the day.
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Hello Harish and Somnath -
Here is the actual and complete scenario. APO is integrated with Repetitive manufacturing in R/3.
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I have tried out the option of creating a new category group by copying the existing category group FP1( which already contains AJ) and adding EE and assigning this Category group to the confirmed production KF but it did not work. I am assuming since PE did not change in R/3 , no changes have been CIF'fed to APO.
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1) EE orders are created in SNP( Planned Production 9APPROD Key figure) and CIFfed to R/3 and show up as PE orders in R/3 --this works fine since its standard behavior.
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I deleted some SNP planned order using rlcdel, should i use a C5 or CCR to transfer to deletion toR3 to reflect the changes . ? what situation should i used C5 or CC5
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RLCDELETE has the radio buttons "In APO" and "In APO and R/3". if you check the "In APO and R/3", the deletion is immediately sent to R/3. No need to run C5. If not then you just deleted the order only in APO and did not delete in R/3. You can either run C5 and select the change pointer with "R"- delete or run CCR report or delete these orders manually in MD16 in R/3.
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I have observed that SNP Planned order availability date is not matching between APO and ECC. Details are as follows.
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note : 645597 mentioned by Nandha is very helpful:
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Nandha's words "In SAP APO, if the receipt date of the primary product deviates from the
end date of the last activity of the order, the receipt date
always identifies this as inconsistent. You cannot rectify
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Dhanush

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Hi Experts,
May I ask for your help. I have a gr processing time of 1 and In-house production of 1 day as well. But whenever I run heuristic, it results in 4 days from start date to availability date. Say April 16 start date and availability date is April 20. Are there other factors on how this is computed?really hoping for a reply from you.
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