SNP Planned Order start date in past

Hi
After SNP run, for the past requirements it is giving avaiablilty data as today but the planned order start date is in past. Now this order fails in CIF as the production version in R/3 is valid from today.
In the strategy profile we have backward+reverse with infinite scheduling. In this case the start date should be todays date for past requrirements... am I correct?
Regards
Abhishek Rai

Hello Abhishek,
We are also facing the same issue. Did you find any solution to this issue?
We are on SCM 7.0 with EHP1.
Thanks,
Mangesh

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Hello Guru's
I have a very complex requirement. It is as follows
We are using heuristics and capacity leveling for our requirement. We generally see the planned orders in the SNP view but here additional requirement is that we have to see the start date of the production planned in the date view, ie the client would like to know when the actual production starts and wants to see the quantity produced on the first day in the date view.
In capacity view,we can observe the resource load which is the start date of the production planned, this load is in percentage now do i related that into quanitity and even if we do related that percentage in quantity then how do i see it the SNP data view plan.

Hi Sriuppa,
you can use receipts view /sapapo/rrp4 transaction where you can see receipts. This transactions offers you the selection based on product,source,target,dates,resource and you will get the list of orders.
Secondly ,if you right click in the receipts cell,select display details,it will show you order details at the bottom of the data view.
Please let me know if it helps
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Hi,
I have observed that SNP Planned order availability date is not matching between APO and ECC. Details are as follows.
I ran SNP Optimizer with bucket offset of 0.5. After publishing the optimizer created planned orders to ECC, only start date is matching.
Example:
I am using PDS as a source of supply.
Fixed production activity in SNP PDS is 1 day.
GR processing time: 3 day
After running optimizer planned order is created with dates explained below.
Start date/time: 09.05.2011 00:00:00
End date/time: 12.05.2011 23:59:59
Availability date: 16.05.2011 00:00:00
Because of bucket offset defined as 0.5 optimizer planned order availability is start of next monday.
After publishing this planned order to ECC dates on the planned order is as follows.
Start date: 09.05.2011
End date: 09.05.2011
Availability date: 12.05.2011
I have not maintained any scheduling margin key in ECC. Also if I dont define the GR processing time, planned dates between APO and ECC always match. Can anyone explain the impact of GR time on the availability date.
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Venkat

Hi Venkadesh,
What's "state stamp"? Do you mean different time zone?
note : 645597 mentioned by Nandha is very helpful:
In standard, CCR will use duedate - "the available date of the output product".
Nandha's words "In SAP APO, if the receipt date of the primary product deviates from the
end date of the last activity of the order, the receipt date
always identifies this as inconsistent. You cannot rectify
inconsistencies of this type by using CCR."
I guess in your PDS or PPM, the output product is not assigned to the End of the last activity. Someone changed it?
Please CIF the PDS or PPM again.
If you really want to apply a note, please use note 815509 as you're using planned order,
and system will use order end date in CCR instead.
GR time is always considered. BR/Tiemin

Planned order start date & finish date

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I am running MRP for finished material ,
But i am getting Planned order start date & finish date are coming same (todays date ). But when i am converting the order then proper scheduled dates are coming .
Why for the Planned order the scheduled dates are not coming ?
Regards

Hi Venky,
Pls try to understand how MRP works
After MRP planned orders are created for the requirement(in house)
In the planned order stage -basic dates are deteremined
For the determintaion of basic dates system check the in house production time/replenishment lead time maintained in the material master
For your requirement you maintain lot size dependent in house production data in the work scheduling view & check
You have to key in data in set up time,processing time ,base qty etc
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SNP Planned order start and end dates are not calculated correctly

Hello SNP Guru's
The SNP planned orders generated after the Heuristics run, have a start and end date based on the Activity Duration (Fixed), while the resource consumption is based on the Bucket Consumption (Variable), which is correct.
The Activity Duration (Fixed) is based on the BOM Base Quantity. So if the Activity Duration = 1 day, and if the order quantity is more than a day, the start and end dates, still shows as 1 day. So no matter what is the order quantity, the start and end dates is always = 1 day.
Does anyone have any experience in implementing any code to change the start and end dates on SNP Planned Order?
Seems like it should work as standard.
Am i missing something?
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Mangesh

Dear Mangesh,
SNP is a infinite planning tool. If you have defined fixed duration to be 1 DAY in the activity, no matter how many quantity you input for your planned order, the order will last for one day. If the resourced is overloaded, you then run capacity levelling to
banlance the capacity. What your expected beahavior happens in PPDS planning.
Claire

Planned order start date is in the past

Hi Experts,
I am running MRP with lead time scheduling (2) at my production plant. The planned orders are generated against the requirements but the start date of the planned order is in the past. I have not mentioned anywhere in the configuration allowing the scheduling in past. I cross checked plant parameters, MRP group, settings for determining basic dates & scheduling parameters and every where start in the past check is blank.
Since the planned order basic dates are calculated based on in house production time in material master, I maintained the lot dependant times in work scheduling view (Set up & processing time with base qty). But system is not considering this in MRP run. But its considering the lot independant inhouse prod time maintained in work scheduling view in MRP.
Is there any other check to be maintained or system limitations? Your expert view on this please.
Appreciate an early reply.
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Check OPU5
S Anil

Problem-planned order start date in the past

I use PP-PI - After MRP run, planned order was created and has exception message "06-start date in the past" its make me wonder because before this problem occur we already tested many time and never found this message(06). then i check in OPPR- field "start in past" is blank, OPPQ- field "Start in past" are not check, OPUZ-Scheduling Type is backwards and field "Start in the Past" is blank, OPU5-Scheduling Type is backwards and field "Start in the Past" is blank.
do any guru know why system not use forward scheduling when found that start date in the past? or have any config of other module which may lead to this issue?
thank in advance.

In OPU5,
Check the setting for correct MRP group which is assigned in material master or in the SPRO node
Production >Material Requirements Planning>MRP Groups-->Define MRP Group for Each Material Type.
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BAPI to create SNP planned order based on start date

Hi,
I am looking for a BAPI to create SNP planned order based on the order start date. There is BAPI BAPI_MOSRVAPS_CREATESNPORDER which can be used to create SNP planned order based on the end date but not based on the start date.
Also would be great if some one can share how do they create SNP Planned orders using BAPI BAPI_MOSRVAPS_CREATESNPORDER in case if GR processing time is defined in the product master and workdays for GR to be respected according to the calendar.
Regards,
Venkat

Hello Mr.Venkat,
Hope you recognize me.
Please check out the BAdi below.
BAdi - APO_BAPI_BUS10503 (this is the BAdi for ManufactOrderAPS BAPI which contains the SNPorder BAPI)
Method - CHANGE_SAVEMULTIPLE2
In this method parameter IT_ORDER_HEAD contains Order start date input option.
For GR time please check this (not sure if it will help).
Same BAdi/ same method
Parameter IV_PLANNING_MODE_USAGE contains field PLANNING_MODE.
Value 1 for PLANNING_MODE corresponds to "Observance of parameters from the product master".
This may make it respect the GR time in product master
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Ashok

SNP Planned Order Date

Hi Experts,
May I ask for your help. I have a gr processing time of 1 and In-house production of 1 day as well. But whenever I run heuristic, it results in 4 days from start date to availability date. Say April 16 start date and availability date is April 20. Are there other factors on how this is computed?really hoping for a reply from you.
Thanks! Sincerely, Ria

Hello Ria,
Have you maintained any GR time in ECC?
I faced a similar issue (in PPDS order though) in which it was computing the availability date
first based on the GR processing time maintained in APO, when the order goes to ECC it would pick up the GR processing time maintained in ECC, and move the availability date of the order in APO.
We are working on code to stop this transfer back to APO.
Note 508993 gives more details about the FM.
You may try an option to stop the transfer from SAP R/3 since you are working with SNP planned orders:
https://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm50/helpdata/en/80/e8bc0f629af14db213108bb6fa7515/content.htm?frameset=/en/b3/32c5d32970834dadf53cac0aa2b5b4/frameset.htm&current_toc=/en/9b/954d3baf755b67e10000000a114084/plain.htm&node_id=147
Hope this helps you!
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Subhash

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We have requirement to allow creation of planned order manually if production version is valid on order start date and not finish date. This is because lead time of order is longer. I refered OSS notes 385602. I could find out solution for this is implementation of OSS note 694140 to change validity mode at activity level to consider start date of first produce activity in validity interval. Problem is even If I create order in APO by implementiong this note planned order is not transfered to ECC and it gets stuck with error production version not valid.
Is there any way in ECC to control this? Any config or customization?
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Santosh

Nilesh,
I think there is a simple procedural skip happening in your business process. You are right when a planned order is created after MRP it would default assign it to the first available production version. 2options available for us,
1. First use transaction MF50 and do the line loading and assign the quantites to the production versions/Production lines, so that the actual capacity planning is getting completed. This way you can have planned orders with both the production versions and matching to your actual line capacity.
2. Use Quota arrangement concept, to automatically split the Planned orders during MRP for a percentage based on individual production versions.
Now when backflush is performed S225 table is updated and Planned order qty also gets reduced.
Hope this helps....
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Prasobh

In plant parameters how the start date in past will be applicable for order

Hi All,
Can any one explain me in detail start in past for plant parmeters (OPPQ).
Regards
sailendra

Hi,
Start date of order proposals allowed in the past
This indicator defines that the system does not automatically switch to forward scheduling if the order start date lies in the past for determining the basic dates. With this indicator, backward scheduling is always used to determine the basic dates, even if the start date lies in the past.
e.g Bacward scheduling type, Today date is 08.06.2009
If u give basic finish date say 25.06.2009,and system propose you basic start date in 06.06.2009. That is 06.06.2009 is lies in past date.In this case system propose you forward scheduling.Means order basic start date is 08.06.2009 .If you don't want to system propose you for forward scheduling tick mark Start in past in OPPQ.
Hope this clear you.
Regards,
Raja.

Bapi for sfg dependent dem,snp planned order qty, and ppds planned orde qty

Hi Gurus,
I am not much familiar with APO, so please help me,
Input details:
Field                         Value
Planning Version     000
Source Location *     1001     Single/Multi Value
Product *                          1000061     Single/Multi Value
Production Planner *     PRC     Single/Multi Value
Start Date *
End Date *
o/p:
Source Location     Date     Semi-Finished Material     Material Description     SFG Dependent Demand     SNP Planned Orders qty     PPDS Planned order Qty     Total SFG Variance due to Lot size     Total SFG Variance reference to dependent demand
1001     15-Jul-10     1000041PP     PRIMARY FF MILK 3% FAT     340     412     420     8     80
1001     15-Jul-10     1000041PP     PRIMARY FF MILK 3% FAT
1001     15-Jul-10     1000041PP     PRIMARY FF MILK 3% FAT
Is there any bapi to fetch the data as shown in o/p.
Thanks

Hi Phani,
Tryout the below BAPIs
IF10503 (object)
BUS10503
Regards
R. Senthil Mareeswaran.

How to Change Component on a SNP Planned Order ( Just 1 time )

Hello,
We are trying to change a component on a SNP Planned Order just 1 time.
So we do not want to change the PDS since this is one time change only.
We tried changing it in R/3. Once we do that, R/3 shows new component but APO still shows dependant demand on old component ( May be because APO SNP Planned order is still connected with the PDS ) .
Then we went to APO and tried to change the component in /sapapo/rrp3. Here you can delete the old component but doesn't let me add new component.
Next thing we tried was to convert it to PPDS Order. Once converted, we went to change mode and tried to remove old component and add new component. It lets me do this. Only issue with this route is that, it puts correct start and end dates on the order dependning on the order quantity and so order moves the dates which we do not like.
Is there any other better way to fix this issue ?.
Thanks.
Ketan Doshi.

This being a very unique requirement, I would use one-off approaches usually not followed. You may need to explore the use of BAPI BAPI_MOSRVAPS_CREATESNPORDER. This will help you point the source of planned order to a PPM or a PDS that you may want to create in APO system on a one-off basis. PPMs can be maintained in APO, however PDS are usually CIFed from R3. You can try to create PDS (based on the new component) in APO system only using backend tables. Try do some little research on /sapapo/curto tables to create the PDS in APO. Then use the BAPI to point the source to this new PDS. (better you also try the PPM approach since there are no issues keeping the PPM in APO)

SNP Planned Order

Hello Experts,
Scenario: we plan finished goods in SNP & for component level we run MRP in ECC.
I need to understand how MRP does planning in ECC based on SNP Planned order. Why MRP run does detailed scheduling on Finished goods planned order which released from SNP?
I am not getting why MRP in ECC considers material which has X0 MRP type & it does detailed scheduling on finished good planned order & it changes start date & time of planned order which push back or forward sometime in SNP.
Can anyone explain why MRP does detailed scheduling on finished good planned order? And after sheduling why it changes start Date & Time?
Thanks in Advance
Regards
Sujay Joshi

Dear manimaran
I am going through the same scenario as joshi....component planning is done by MRP and planning for final product is done by SNP and PP/DS......say i have planned order from SNP and PP/DS
1. can i subject those planned orders to MRP run again by bringing back to ECC
2.If its is possible how do i see what is the screen wherein i will see that planned orders from SCM has arrived to ECC
3.what tcode do i use to subject those scm planned orders to MRP run
I have detailed a implentation procedure i would be happy if you can say if it is logically correct,if it is not correct then which is the correct logic.
Planning will be divided into two parts ,Plant level planning and supply chain planning, for Plant level planning traditional MRP run is mandatory to determine the requirements at the plant level.
DMS (Distributor management system ) to be used by all customers
Capture the demand from all the market segment into DMS and upload the demand in SCM
Create a demand plan in APO and release it in SAP R/3 Demand management after confirming the demand.
Maintain material master for all the materials on demand.
Maintain relevant production version in C223
Run traditional MRP
Calculate exact quantities by creating production order in R/3.
Transfer the quantities required for specific time period alone to APO,for example if you want to allocate capacity to run 4 shifts transfer the approximate value of quantity alone to APO, the time period may be for 7 shifts or 1 month ,which is industry specific.
Perform simultaneous capacity and material planning in PP/DS (or)
After rough cut planning in APO, SNP perform simultaneous planning in APO , PP/DS ,using any one of standard heuristic like PP_001 or MRP_001 or PP_002
Adopt planning procedure =3
Confirm the production order in R/3
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Creation of SNP Planned Orders using Optimizer

Dear Experts .....
I am facing some problems while creating SNP Planned orders using Optmizer ( Discret Optimization).....
For eg.
I am using 3 months horizon ... the first two months is daily buckets with 12 hours capacity each one and the last month is weekly buckets.
The product minimun lot size exceed the daily capacity .... this way planned order have been created in the weekly buckets at the end of the horizon.
I need the system to create orders in the correct date avoiding use of safety stock .....
Regards
Mauricio

Those other 2 settings was already done .....
It is still not working .... iI am receiving the following message ...
Production process model/PDS 00000000000001011301001 S: Cannot be executed
Message no. /SAPAPO/SNPOPT159
Diagnosis
Production process model 00000000000001011301001 S at location 0100 is intended for cross-period lot size planning. It can be started in bucket 20110404->20110404. However, it does not then end in the same bucket.
Thanks for your effort trying to help me with this issue.

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