So, Hows the 160gb Classic??

Hello. I just ordered my 160gb classic and i've seen some bad things about it on this forum. I was wondering if someone who has the 160gb classic could answer a few questions for me...
1) Is there really that much lag with the new user interface compared to previous models?
2) What is the "actual" capacity of the 160gb? maybe 150gb?
3) Any other noticeable differences from the 5.5 gen iPod?
Thanks!

great battery life! so far i have been running lossless for 16 hrs through the line out with the headphone master volume turned all the way down since i use an outboard headphone amp & headphones through a pocket dock & the battery meter is at about the 1/2 way mark. the best i could get out of the 80gb 5.5 gen was about 5 hours with lossless. the 160gb does have a couple glitches. the "now playing screen" goes into a clock screen saver mode after a couple of minutes & you have to scroll the wheel to get "now playing" back & there is no way to set the screen saver's time or even find a screen saver option in the menu. sometimes if you uncheck items in the main menu so you will not have to see them at the start menu. for instance, i unchecked "podcasts" in main menu & it was still in the start screen. i checked it & unchecked it again & it finally went away. otherwise it sounds great & all we need is a firmware update.

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I have lost all artwork since the recent upgrade, is there a way to refresh the 160gb classic ?

I have lost all artwork since the recent upgrade, is there a way to refresh the 160gb classic ?

You'll have to restore the iPod to factory settings. Then sync all your content from your iTunes library back over to it.
B-rock

Why do apple ship the 160gb classic with the incorrect dock adapter in the box

I have bought the 160 classic to sit on top of my dock (music player) on the dash of my lorry, the little white peice of plastic in the box with the ipod is meant to sit in the music player resses and is supposed to be exactly the same shape as whichever ipod it came with, so that when the ipod is placed upright into the shape the hole in the bottom of the peice of plastic allows the connector to poke upwards and the ipod seats on it, with the molded plastic fitting stopping the ipod from moving around and putting any strain on the 30 pin connector, this is exactly how things are meant to work, and is why theres a peice of plastic shaped like the ipod its shipped with, SO WHY IS THE CLASSIC SHIPPED WITH A ADAPTER THATS TWICE THE SIZE OF THE IPOD AND ALLOWS THE 30 PIN CONNECTER TO TAKE ALL THE STRAIN EVERYTIME ONE SKIPS A SONG OR CHANGES VOLUME BY PRESSING THE WHEEL.
MC293 MODEL LATE 2009

Apple has discontinued the 160GB. You can buy one online still, but not from Apple. Or buy a used one off Craig's List.
P.S. Actually Apple is still selling refurbished 160GB on it's site, if you want to go that route. I also found some new ones on Amazon. Buy.com may have some too.
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When and Why Did Apple Drop The 160GB Classic Ipod

Hi
I was going to go and finally buy a 160GB Ipod tomrrow.I see they don't even list it anymore on Apples site and Future-shop doesn't even list it on the site.
They only make a 120GB Now
When Did they Drop this and why???
Also Do any stores still have them in Stock???
I won't be spending the money on only a 120GB if thats all they make now
I've had my Ipod Mini 4GB since 2005 and thought it was time for a upgrade.
Please do tell me if Apple still makes the 160GB Ipod
thanks

Apple has discontinued the 160GB. You can buy one online still, but not from Apple. Or buy a used one off Craig's List.
P.S. Actually Apple is still selling refurbished 160GB on it's site, if you want to go that route. I also found some new ones on Amazon. Buy.com may have some too.
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160GB Classic Battery Life

Does anyone know the idle battery life of the 160GB Classic? I want to use it amd leave it in my car and want to know how often it would need to be recharged.
Thanks

Not smart if you park anywhere other than in your garage. An iPod left in an unattended car is a plea for a break-in. I've heard it happen numerous times.
And if the battery is Ni-MH, it should lose about 2% of its charge per day if left completely idle. Of course, whenever you use it, that would drain significantly more so don't go around thinking (well, I've got 50 days before I need to charge it). I'd say you should charge it every 4 days depending on your usage.

160GB classic vs. 2G Nano (Nano FTW!)

Cross posted from another forum...
My bi-monthly housecleaner brought in a new girl to help out last week. The new girl helped alright. She helped herself to my black 8GB Nano and an (inexpensive) wristwatch, and has stopped answering her phone. Gotta love people.
Well I didn't use the Nano a ton, but I liked having it around. (I've been mostly using my iPhone, and the 160GB Classic I got with my iPhone refund money.) I also consider the 2G Nano to be Apple's finest touchwheel iPod from an industrial design standpoint. The new Nanos look and feel totally awkward to me. The 2G Nano is the last word in flash based mp3 players to date IMO, in terms of size, ease of use, battery life, and form factor.
So today I decided I missed my Nano and it was time to find another. No small feat it turns out. Ebay is a mix of used, fakes, and overpriced refurbs. Seems like a week ago they were everywhere here in NYC, but today they were nowhere to be found.
When I eventually found one, brand new for $173, I snatched it up. (at Digital Society, auth. dealer, 60 E10th @ B'way...they had 5 or 6 left if anyone cares)
I got the new-old Nano home, charged it up, filled it, and started playing music. I hadn't used my previous Nano since getting the Classic, so I had forgotten what it was like. I was floored at how much smoother it operated compared to the Classic. The menus fly, the wheel responds the millisecond you touch it. It's what an iPod experience should be. On the Classic, I have to rub the wheel about 5 times to wake it up. Most of the time I give up and just click the center button. I always have the sense that I'm coaxing the Classic to do what I want, and waiting while it ponders the notion.
As others have written, I find the Classic beyond sluggish, bloated with near useless eye candy, and lacking the basic level of touch sensitivity that has been present in every iPod preceding it. In its current firmware state, I pretty much hate the Classic. But it's 160GB. I have every song I own on it, and still have about 70 gigs free. That has been the sole mitigating factor keeping me from returning it. The 160GB Classic is like the big dumb ox you're friends with in college because he can lift a full keg over his head.
I won't touch on the Nano's sound quality vs. the Classic. Many will argue inferiority on the Classic's part. In a bustling crowded city, they both sound pretty great to me.
I will say that in the 3 short weeks I've owned it, I have been spoiled by the screen quality of the Classic. The Nano screen is dimmer, yellowish and the fonts are fuzzy by comparison.
Otherwise, I'm truly baffled as to how the Classic passed QC at Cupertino. Something is seriously amiss at Apple these days. Viva la Nano!

Considerations are capacity, price, screen size, lifestyle, known issues.
How big is your music/media library? The Classic has a max capacity of 160GB vs the Nano 16GB, some people use the classic as a Music datastore, which I think is not a good idea, as there are hundreds if not thousands of reported iPod hardisk crash, and some people erase the music library in their PC, thinking that the iPod classic is sturdy and reliable. (just read these discussion on Sync issue)
Price - Nano is half the price of the Classic.
Screen size - Nano screen is too small for video
Nano has FM Radio.
Battery life (when new) - Classic has about 40 hours of continuos music per full charge, where Nano has about 24 hours of continuos music.
Nano has no moving parts, hence more sturdy and reliable.
However if you want a sturdy device, with big screen, and more functionality, get the iPod Touch, it is double the cost of the Nano if you get the 32GB Touch.
For better comparison, read this Apple specs

Audiophile audio from a 160Gb Classic

I've just spent ripping every CD I've ever owed to AIFF Format @ 24bit 96Khz. I copy them over to my brand new 160 Classic and it comes back with un-supported audio format. What the F....
How do I get near audiophile quality from my iPod. even at this high bit rate I still get nearly 70 Cd's on the iPod. but what gives the Aple website says the 160Gb Classic support AIFF formats. I run my iPod from a docking station (Pure Audio if my memory severs me right) that bypasses all the onboard apple hardware and takes stright to a very good DAC and then to my Tube AMP. So whats the fix APPLE, saying lower the bit rate or the sampling rate is a very un-aceptable answer.
Thaks' Mike;)

The default for AIFF importing is automatic, but if you try changing the settings using the Custom button, you will find that the highest settings are 16bit 48Khz. So perhaps the problem is that you are using a format outside the range of Apple devices.
Presumably also, you did not rip these CDs using iTunes. Why not?

Just opened my 160GB classic. Only 147GB of memory?

Earlier this year Apple had to replace one of my ipods with this upgraded classic that I haven't used until now. It is the 160GB classic. I haven't connected to my mac yet. I realize that software takes up some space on the ipod, but over 10 GB? It's the 160gb and it's telling me that 148GB is free (and I haven't put anything on it).
Is it true that their software takes up 12 GB of space? Am I missing the obvious here and something will change once I connect?

hexonxonx said: "I can see how people can get very upset by this."
TK raises hand.
I know that officially there are two methods for stating a 1GB of space... the "1000 rule (Decimal way)" and the "1024 rule (Binary way)"... that alone doesn't tick me off....
what ticks me off is that HDD makers used to do the 1024/Binary method and then switched to the 1000/Decimal just to save some $$$$ and instantly make the HDDs they were making seem larger and all at the expense of the consumer.
...and just as hexonxonx said, the problem only gets worse with each larger and larger hard drive. At some point down the road we'll buy a hard drive "missing" 1 terabyte of space.
OK, I feel a little better again... haven't complained about that HDD size issue in a few years... it was a nice revisit.
EDIT - It's even more irratating because all software makers use the 1024/Binary way to calculate space... so when you see something say it will require "1GB of space to install"... they're using the 1024 rule... while the HDD makers use the 1000 rule. grrrrr... ok, calming down now, lol.
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Why can't my 160GB Classic turn off when it's in the universal dock?

When I have my brand new 160GB Classic in my about 4 years old Universal Dock, I can't switch it off. When it's not in the dock, I can switch it off just by pressing the lower key the ordinary way.
When I had my about 4 year old 60GB iPod in the dock, I could turn it off when in the dock, but this doesn't work with my new iPod. The screen keeps saying that the battery is loading or loaded, even when the back light is switched off.
How can I completely turn it off when it's in the dock?

Hi Thebestest1v1er,
Based on your description of being able to Safe Boot (holding down the shift key) but not boot normally, it sounds like your startup/restart issue may be related to one of the things that Safe Boot disables. You can find more information about them here:
OS X: What is Safe Boot, Safe Mode?
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1564
It may also be related to a disk or file system issue (as that is also something checked during Safe Boot). You may find these articles helpful as well:
Apple Support: Resolve startup issues and perform disk maintenance with Disk Utility and fsck
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1417
OS X: About OS X Recovery
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4718
Regards,
- Brenden

My 160gb classic screen is frozen..Any ideas how to reboot??

My 160gb classic screen is frozen..Any ideas how to reboot??

alan,
Try a hard reset. To do this, press and hold both the Select (Center) and Menu buttons together long enough for the Apple logo to appear. This may take one or two tries.
Otherwise, it might be necessary to let the iPod's battery fully drain.
B-rock

Is the Ipod classic gonna be discontinued? I love it, I have two of the 160gb ones.

Is there a danger of the Ipod classic being discontinued? I love it, and have two of them since i have such a big CD collection I don't know what I would use if that went away.

We should not speculate about the future of an Apple product here. A point to consider is why we need to carry around our entire music collection.
My music library is "only" about 45GB at this point. I don't own any iPod that can hold it all, but that's not a problem for me, because 45GB is almost 20 days of continuous music. I have no need to have all of THAT with me on an iPod. A 160GB iPod would hold more than TWO MONTHS of continuous music.
I like to listen to my music in shuffle mode, which lets me hear songs I have not (intentionally) listened to in a long time, songs I forgot I had. Even my 1GB iPod shuffle is sufficient to listen to my entire collection in shuffle mode. I use the Autofill feature to randomly fill my shuffle from my complete music library, every time I connect it to my Mac to charge. When I play that music, I am essentially shuffling a random selection of songs from my complete library. So a 1GB shuffle lets me listen to my complete 45GB library in shuffle mode, over time.
On my 8GB iPod nano that I use for running, I have a "favorites" playlist that I sync from my iTunes library. I also have Genius playlists that I have iTunes create for me, and I sync those to the nano. This keeps the songs on my nano focused on songs that I like to hear, not random songs (so it's the opposite of how I use my shuffle).
I prefer to use the newer (smaller, lighter, and more durable) designs, and load them with songs smartly, not completely.

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How do I view maps on the 6120 classic?

Hi all.
I have downloaded Nokia Map loaders and installed it on both the 6120 and the PC. I have also downloaded Nokia Maps and installed them on the Memory card via a card reader as instructed as I am told that the maps can not be installed onto the Symbian phone via a USB connection.
I have run the Nokia maps program on the Classic first before attempting to use maps as instructed.
It would appears that the downloads went well because both the installations took a bit of time as the progress bar went across the screen of the 6120.
When I tried to view maps, all I got was the world globe to load and from there nothing.
Just as a point as it may have a bearing. When I tried a Maps download via the PC and Nokia Map Loader, I got the usual gray panel with instruction on how to download, but when I clicked 'next' to got to the next phase where I was to select a country or district or whatever I was told that the connection to the server has been interrupted and to try again, and again, and again...you get the picture.
I found some instructions on the net:
"After installing the Nokia Map Loader application on your PC, start the application. First, choose the continent in the tab on the top of the application window. Then choose the country. Some small countries can be chosen completely, others have several sub-maps from which you have to choose the ones you want to install".
I have never seen this panel anywhere! I believe this is the one that is supposed to come after the gray instructional panel as I stated above.
What am I doing wrong?
I read that I do not need an Internet or GPS connection just to view maps (and that is all that I want to do) so why can't I view my maps, ANY maps?
So whatever I have so far downloaded to the memory card (and from memory is somewhere around 60 something MB, could be more, could be less)is at the moment doing nothing for me.
I really need help here please. :-(
Regards
Nokia 6120 classic
May the "Farce" be with you!

The 6120 classic puts freshly installed apps straight into the main menu.
Try to uninstall it from settings>app.mgr.
Manual removal of Nokia Maps is a pain in the a** because the files are spread all over c:\ with cryptic file names from the smart2go era, most of 'em in folders that you can only get into if you hack your copy of Symbian. It's easier to back up your contacts, messages and calender entries etc., then reset your phone and reinstall your programs.
Next time you install Nokia Maps (or any other app, especially if it's made by Nokia) make a backup of your phone first.
symbian programs & themes, nokia maps for any browser on any operating system of your choice, and other tricks to tame symbian: http://symbian.site666.info

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I recently upgraded from an 80 to 160GB Classic but only some of the artwork in iTunes is synching. There was no problem with the old 80Gb classic. any suggestions?

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here is an interesting thing: take the iphone and set lock screen to never. Now make an email with siri--be sure to activate her with call button. get to the body and get some text in there. then just stop talking. LOCK SCREEN APPEARS!!!!!! and of course you draft is gone.
There does seem to be a work around for some--maybe all these issues. Don't use the call button--use the buttons on the phone.
Siri seems to behave properly with scenerio above---sans call button. She does not go to lock.

So, Hows the 160gb Classic??

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