So why to use Discoverer ?

Dear all,
after working as a developer since 1986 with Oracle RDBMS Rev.4 and all those Application Tools (starting with Forms 2.0, raf(rapid application facility) or whatever it was called) I wonder should I talk my customers into using Discoverer Version WHAT.
Now :
     I'm ready to go the 10g lane.
     but, what about connecting to 8.1.7
     but, look at the staus of this forum : just questions, hardly answers
     does all this web hype work right now ?
     do you have to be a super java/xml/html engineer ?, I'm just a elementary particle physicist, making his money with Oracle rdbms and Tools since almost 20 years.
     any 10-version experiences available ?
     any 9-version solid experiences ?
     I'm ready to jump, any water in the pool ?

Rainer,
Hello to a fellow old timer. Started in '88 with Oracle Add-in for Lotus 1-2-3. Then joined Oracle to support RDBMS 5.1 and SQLForms/Report/Menu and other products.
Now a Product Manager for Discoverer so I have an obvious bias so take it as it is.
Q: I wonder should I talk my customers into using Discoverer Version WHAT.
A: Yes please do and make it Discoverer 9.0.4 included in Oracle Application Server 10g (9.0.4)
Q: but, what about connecting to 8.1.7
A: no problem -- yes Discoverer will run against DB 8.1.7
When running against higher versions like 9i and 10g Disco
will take advantage of enhanced functionality like Enhanced Data Aggregation and incremental refresh of Materialized Views.
Q: but, look at the staus of this forum : just questions, hardly answers
A: Well I can give you 7 answers right now. Just trying to keep up with the high demand and limited staff.
Q: does all this web hype work right now ?
A: Absolutely. It's pretty cool actually. We have a builder/analysis tool that downloads as a Java applet (Discoverer Plus); a Viewer tool (pure HTML from a browser) that allows you to run worksheets and analyze/drill/pivot etc.; and integration with Oracle Portal so you can include Discoverer content in a Portal Page.
Q: do you have to be a super java/xml/html engineer ?,
A: You don't need to do any coding to use Discoverer.
The most challenging part will likely be designing the
Metadata (Business Areas in the Discoverer End User Layer) to enable your end users access to their data. If you want to customize Viewer you can modify an XML file if you really want to code -- but it is not required. Should be a piece of cake for a particle physicist!
Q: any 10-version experiences available ?
Q: any 9-version solid experiences ?
A: I assume you are referring to Application Server versions. We have successful customers on 9.0.2 and 10g (9.0.4) but we obviously are encouraging customers to get up to the 9.0.4 release. It has the most functionality and is very stable.
Q: I'm ready to jump, any water in the pool?
A: Come on in. The water's fine.
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