SOA and OWSM in separate managed servers

Can someone please provide the pros and cons of separating SOA and OWSM into separate managed servers for a production environment. Also are there instances where customers are running OWSM in its own domain ?
Thanks-

A separate managed server requires more memory.
We do not use separate server.
EDG implements a separate server.
Any other thaughts on this?

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