SOA management pack

Hi All ,
I am new to Oracle SOA management pack ,
We have a requirement to install SOA management pack ,
for that we have a CD which contains the below folders , can any one suggest us how to proceed ?
EM 10-2-0-5-V16512-01_1of2
EM 10-2-0-5-V16512-01_2of2
Thanks
Karthik

http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B16240_01/doc/doc.102/e14396/toc.htm

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oracle.sysman.emas 12.1.0.6.0
oracle.sysman.emrep 12.1.0.4.0
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Hi,
your note very interesting. Is there any other way to extract the configuration using SQL? not using Enterprise Manager? hope this will be fastest way then using GUI base.
Thanks,
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Event Description: Failed to import the latest Advisor Management Packs to the Management Server.
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Summary
The latest Management Packs for the Advisor connector have not been imported to the management server database.
Causes
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Resolutions
Refer to the Operations Manager event log on the management server for more information
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Proxy settings are configured on server as well as on console...
REGARDS DANISH DANIE

Hi,
According to the error message, "The management pack ([Microsoft.IntelligencePacks.Types, 31bf3856ad364e35, 7.0.9366.0]) requested from the database was version 7.0.9401.0 but the actual version available is 7.0.9366.0."
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System Center Advisor Connector for Operations Manager
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=38199
Regards, Yan Li

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Below is the screen shot.
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You can, but not as easily as you would like.
Essentially, what you would need to do is split up the the XML by hand, making sure to sort out the DisplayStrings sections to the correct components. Export out the "main" MP, cut out a section of XML that represents the form extension, paste
it into a new file with a new name, add a reference to the new MP to the main MP, and replace all references to that object with MP Aliases to that object's new home. Import both the new MP and the reduced "main" MP back into the database.
there are two problems thou:
Some objects, like projections (used in form extensions created by the authoring too) and class extensions should only ever be stored in sealed MPs, because removing them causes data that reference them to be invalid, i.e. properties defined in class extensions
are lost if that class extension is removed and re-added, and templates that depend on projections are inaccessable if the projection they are based on is lost.
some atomic SDK objects, like workflows, consist of several non-consecutive XML sections, meaning you would need to trace the references and identify which of many <Rule> and <Action> sections belonged with which workflows, and make sure they
would all end up in the same MP.
now you could do this slowly, pulling sections out of the "main" MP and replacing them with references over various nightly downtimes, exporting the "main" MP and carving out a few objects, then importing the trimmed down "main"
MP and the new single use MP until you had something resembling best practice functional isolation (all Change request notification over here, all service request workflows over there, etc), and the hollowed out husk of your "main" MP as a miscellaneous
container, but i think you'll find that you still have to face and deal with data loss and breakage, potentially a lot more trouble then it's worth.
Given that, i would instead propose that you give up on correcting sins of the past, and start doing it right now. start setting up your new MPs and put new thingss into them, and while you're working, anything that you can easily rebuild. Make a plan to
rebuild your templates and form customization. start identifying class extensions you'll have to rebuild, and work up a plan to export data defined by them somewhere (probably powershell and CSV) so you can restore it when the classes are restored.
Like most data hygine problems, there isn't an easy bulk application answer. you just have to look at everything and clean it up as you go. you can mix salt and sugar quite easily. UNmixing them is a lot more work.

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