SOA_SERVER Overloaded

Hi all,
I am using a soa server as a managed server and a Admin server. I have deployed with many instances in my soa server.
Now My soaserver health status is "*overloaded*" and the server is still running. What am i suppose to do now? other than deleting instances.
do i need to increase my heap size?
Thanks in advance
Anand

You can click on the overloaded, to see what is going on. Then you can click on the subsystem , which brings
you to the monitoring environment for that subsystem. From there you analyze what is going on.

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4feet4
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System Overload ...i know ..I'm not the 1st ...
Posted: Aug 9, 2009 7:52 PM
Any quick tips on what to do? My project is small - while monitoring my CPU usage it never goes above 30 while running the project - I've got 2.78 GB of free disk space - 4Gig Ram - I dont use my IMAC OSX 10.5.5 for anything but Logic? Hoping to get around this CONSTANT issue - thanks for your help.
Imac Mac OS X (10.5.5)
Larry Mal
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From: Saint Louis, Missouri
Registered: Sep 27, 2007
Re: System Overload ...i know ..I'm not the 1st ...
Posted: Aug 9, 2009 9:48 PM in response to: 4feet4
Well, if you are saying you have only 2.78 GB's of space on your hard drive, then you'll want to have more. You should leave about 10-15% of your drive free.
dual 2.8GHz Mac Pro, Macbook Pro 2.16 GHz Mac OS X (10.5.6) 2 GB RAM
4feet4
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From: Pasadena
Registered: Mar 12, 2009
Re: System Overload ...i know ..I'm not the 1st ...
Posted: Aug 9, 2009 10:51 PM in response to: Larry Mal
I'm running LP8 - I have an IMAC OSX 10.5.5 - 2.4 processor - 4 GB RAM - M-Audio Fast Track Pro interface (USB direct to MAC) - I do NOT have an external hard drive ( sounds like I should ? - although I was told by others my system would be sufficient) - I use ALL instruments/track options ( midi etc) and will need to in the future - I want to be able to run a full music project 10-15 tracks. So far I'm running 4-5 tracks -(1) midi - the rest are audio with little to no effects ( in one project I'm using an LP8 template but deleted most of the tracks to cut down on the load ). Don't know if I can freeze these tracks-I'm new to this - thats why I'm looking for options ........ i was also using a 3rd party software in the project - Steinberg Groove Agent 3 (drums) but it was giving me the same error ..even when it was the ONLY track in the project....(its not fully compatible) - however I was finally able to create a full drum track with GA3 - play the midi data back - and record it to an audio track - therefore deleting the midi data I was having issues with and keeping the drums.... hope this helps?
Imac Mac OS X (10.5.5)
4feet4
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Re: System Overload ...i know ..I'm not the 1st ...
Posted: Aug 10, 2009 6:39 AM in response to: 4feet4
Updated
Imac Mac OS X (10.5.5) 2.4 Processor, 4 GB RAM, M-Audio Fast Track Pro Interface, No External HD
Larry Mal
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From: Saint Louis, Missouri
Registered: Sep 27, 2007
Re: System Overload ...i know ..I'm not the 1st ...
Posted: Aug 10, 2009 7:54 AM in response to: 4feet4
Perfect. Well here are some suggestions:
1) Logic 7, 8 and 9 all have a "freeze" function. Logic 9 has a new "bounce in place" function which I haven't used yet. These will make temporary audio files of your MIDI instruments so that you are able to play them as finished audio for the most part and free up CPU power. ( I haven't yet used "bounce in place", I just got Logic 9.) This will help with MIDI instruments quite a bit, and you can still go back and change them by un-freezing... I guess "thawing" would be the proper term.
2) The reason I was asking about your audio interface is because I was wondering what you had available. You very definitely want to record to a non-system (on that Logic nor your operating system are on) drive. Firewire is much superior to USB, which is why I'm glad to hear you are using USB as your audio in. By using Firewire in and Firewire out, on an iMac, you would be halving the bandwidth. In your case you are not.
You will add very much stability to your Logic work by adding an external Firewire drive and recording audio to it, and working on Logic projects there! If you have the money, I'd go with Firewire 800, which is frankly overkill, but why not. Firewire 400 drives will work fine for you. Add one and many of the overload messages will disappear, simply because right now you are pulling information from (in the form of calculating what the virtual instruments and Logic are doing) and writing information to (in the form of writing what those instruments and Logic are resulting in) to the same disk.
Try these two things and get back to us. I think you'll be very happy with the results.
It's also important to pay attention to your buffer size. When it is not important for you to play with it in real time, you want to make it be 1024. Otherwise as low as possible. So when you are recording audio to a MIDI drum track, you'd want it to be very low so you can play along accurately. When you have all that done, and are editing MIDI only, then put the buffer higher. When mixing, put it higher.
Let me know how this works, good luck, L
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4feet4
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Re: System Overload ...i know ..I'm not the 1st ...
Posted: Aug 10, 2009 9:10 AM in response to: Larry Mal
Ok Great - Thanks - makes sense - I was using a Lacie with Protools an my PC ( it recently crashed) - I was under the impression I would have enough processing power with out it on the MAC.
Looks like I can pick one up for just a little over $100 ( I'm rolling in that kind of cash) ... please clarify though - you stated: "Firewire is much superior to USB, which is why I'm glad to hear you are using USB as your audio in. By using Firewire in and Firewire out, on an iMac, you would be halving the bandwidth. In your case you are not" ....are you GLAD to hear I am using USB as in - We may have found the problem .... go external to free up processing ? Please confirm.
Thanks again
Imac Mac OS X (10.5.5) 2.4 Processor, 4 GB RAM, M-Audio Fast Track Pro Interface, No External HD
CCTM
Posts: 249
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Re: System Overload ...i know ..I'm not the 1st ...
Posted: Aug 10, 2009 9:28 AM in response to: 4feet4
4feet4 wrote:
Ok Great - Thanks - makes sense - I was using a Lacie with Protools an my PC ( it recently crashed) - I was under the impression I would have enough processing power with out it on the MAC.
As stated in an earlier reply, if you only have 2 or 3 gigs of free space on your Mac hard drive, processing power is NOT the problem. Your boot disc is way too full. You should have at least 20-30GB free.
Running a second drive for the audio side will, of course, help, but you MUST clear out the main hard drive (or fit a larger one) before you run into even more serious problems.
HTH
CCT
Larry Mal
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Re: System Overload ...i know ..I'm not the 1st ...
Posted: Aug 10, 2009 9:37 AM in response to: 4feet4
Well, you have enough processing power, that isn't the issue. All the processing power in the world won't matter if you have 64 megabytes of RAM, there will be a bottleneck. Another bottleneck is with data transference. Like I said, when using a single drive to transfer date from as well as to- which is what you are doing when you are using Logic, running within the scope of the operating system, and hosting virtual instruments, all of which is writing the resulting audio information to the same drive, at the same time, then you are creating another problem. But you don't have to do that, by sending the audio written to another drive other than the one the audio is being generated from.
In other words, your processing power is both faster than and irrelevant to the physical limitations of the hard drive itself.
Another bottleneck would be if you were recording tracks on a Firewire in, and sending that to and external Firewire drive out. This is one of the limitations of the iMac, there is no way to add what is called another bus, which is simply another pipeline for data transference. You can get around that with a Mac Pro, in which you add another internal hard drive, which connects directly to the motherboard, and has its own bus. Or by adding another Firewire PCIe card, which will add another Firewire bus, again, with its own data transference. On an iMac, you have one Firewire bus, and one USB bus.
Clear? You can imagine these as pipes of water. The more pipes you have leading to and from a location the faster it will go.
USB, in your case, is a dedicated pipeline in. Nothing (well, your mouse, maybe a flash drive) is using that pipeline. Your Firewire is a pipeline out, in this case- you could reverse this, it doesn't matter*. If you use Firewire in and out, then you are sending water flowing in both directions in the same pipe. It will work, but not as well. By adding a dedicated bus, you would be adding another pipe to flow in one way, while the original flowed the other way. No impedances.
I don't see why you can't use the Lacie drive you already have, though. It's quite likely your crash wasn't due to it. No need to buy another drive, if it's Firewire, anyway. Just give it a shot- this isn't a cure all, but just good audio practice. Let me know how it pans out. Good luck, L
*Firewire is better than USB in all situations. But you seem to be going a track or two of USB audio in, so I'd use USB for that. For light use it's fine. Then you can use your superior Firewire bus to write the audio to the external Firewire drive.
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4feet4
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Re: System Overload ...i know ..I'm not the 1st ...
Posted: Aug 10, 2009 11:12 AM in response to: Larry Mal
L - Thanks for laying that out in simple terms - learning a ton and loving it ( when things work) - I will pick up another Lacie - my old Lacie for my PC crashed - I'm better off starting from scratch ( I'm still trying to retrive some data of the old one) ... I'll let you know how it works. I would have got an external drive outright but the Logic Certified guys at Apple told me I would not need one - sounds like this is the big problem. I'll use the freeze method when needed also....... maybe I'll have better luck with Groove Agent 3 with the external drive.
Much appreciated-
(TBD)
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Larry Mal
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Posted: Aug 10, 2009 11:39 AM in response to: 4feet4
And free up some room on that system drive.
dual 2.8GHz Mac Pro, Macbook Pro 2.16 GHz Mac OS X (10.5.6) 2 GB RAM
Pancenter
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Re: System Overload ...i know ..I'm not the 1st ...
Posted: Aug 10, 2009 12:04 PM in response to: 4feet4
4feet4 wrote:
L - Thanks for laying that out in simple terms - learning a ton and loving it ( when things work) - I will pick up another Lacie - my old Lacie for my PC crashed - I'm better off starting from scratch ( I'm still trying to retrive some data of the old one) ... I'll let you know how it works. I would have got an external drive outright but the Logic Certified guys at Apple told me I would not need one - sounds like this is the big problem. I'll use the freeze method when needed also....... maybe I'll have better luck with Groove Agent 3 with the external drive.
Groove Agent 3 loads samples into memory so I doubt if your luck will change.
The -first- thing I would do is clear some space on your hard drive, my feeling is that OSX is writing swap files and the drive head is working overtime to try and find free space to write. That in itself could cause an overload.
Free drive space now or expect more problems than you're currently experiencing.
pancenter-
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4feet4
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System Overload ...i know ..I'm not the 1st ...
Posted: Aug 9, 2009 7:52 PM
Any quick tips on what to do? My project is small - while monitoring my CPU usage it never goes above 30 while running the project - I've got 2.78 GB of free disk space - 4Gig Ram - I dont use my IMAC OSX 10.5.5 for anything but Logic? Hoping to get around this CONSTANT issue - thanks for your help.
Imac Mac OS X (10.5.5)
Larry Mal
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From: Saint Louis, Missouri
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Re: System Overload ...i know ..I'm not the 1st ...
Posted: Aug 9, 2009 9:48 PM in response to: 4feet4
Well, if you are saying you have only 2.78 GB's of space on your hard drive, then you'll want to have more. You should leave about 10-15% of your drive free.
dual 2.8GHz Mac Pro, Macbook Pro 2.16 GHz Mac OS X (10.5.6) 2 GB RAM
4feet4
Posts: 17
From: Pasadena
Registered: Mar 12, 2009
Re: System Overload ...i know ..I'm not the 1st ...
Posted: Aug 9, 2009 10:51 PM in response to: Larry Mal
I'm running LP8 - I have an IMAC OSX 10.5.5 - 2.4 processor - 4 GB RAM - M-Audio Fast Track Pro interface (USB direct to MAC) - I do NOT have an external hard drive ( sounds like I should ? - although I was told by others my system would be sufficient) - I use ALL instruments/track options ( midi etc) and will need to in the future - I want to be able to run a full music project 10-15 tracks. So far I'm running 4-5 tracks -(1) midi - the rest are audio with little to no effects ( in one project I'm using an LP8 template but deleted most of the tracks to cut down on the load ). Don't know if I can freeze these tracks-I'm new to this - thats why I'm looking for options ........ i was also using a 3rd party software in the project - Steinberg Groove Agent 3 (drums) but it was giving me the same error ..even when it was the ONLY track in the project....(its not fully compatible) - however I was finally able to create a full drum track with GA3 - play the midi data back - and record it to an audio track - therefore deleting the midi data I was having issues with and keeping the drums.... hope this helps?
Imac Mac OS X (10.5.5)
4feet4
Posts: 17
From: Pasadena
Registered: Mar 12, 2009
Re: System Overload ...i know ..I'm not the 1st ...
Posted: Aug 10, 2009 6:39 AM in response to: 4feet4
Updated
Imac Mac OS X (10.5.5) 2.4 Processor, 4 GB RAM, M-Audio Fast Track Pro Interface, No External HD
Larry Mal
Posts: 654
From: Saint Louis, Missouri
Registered: Sep 27, 2007
Re: System Overload ...i know ..I'm not the 1st ...
Posted: Aug 10, 2009 7:54 AM in response to: 4feet4
Perfect. Well here are some suggestions:
1) Logic 7, 8 and 9 all have a "freeze" function. Logic 9 has a new "bounce in place" function which I haven't used yet. These will make temporary audio files of your MIDI instruments so that you are able to play them as finished audio for the most part and free up CPU power. ( I haven't yet used "bounce in place", I just got Logic 9.) This will help with MIDI instruments quite a bit, and you can still go back and change them by un-freezing... I guess "thawing" would be the proper term.
2) The reason I was asking about your audio interface is because I was wondering what you had available. You very definitely want to record to a non-system (on that Logic nor your operating system are on) drive. Firewire is much superior to USB, which is why I'm glad to hear you are using USB as your audio in. By using Firewire in and Firewire out, on an iMac, you would be halving the bandwidth. In your case you are not.
You will add very much stability to your Logic work by adding an external Firewire drive and recording audio to it, and working on Logic projects there! If you have the money, I'd go with Firewire 800, which is frankly overkill, but why not. Firewire 400 drives will work fine for you. Add one and many of the overload messages will disappear, simply because right now you are pulling information from (in the form of calculating what the virtual instruments and Logic are doing) and writing information to (in the form of writing what those instruments and Logic are resulting in) to the same disk.
Try these two things and get back to us. I think you'll be very happy with the results.
It's also important to pay attention to your buffer size. When it is not important for you to play with it in real time, you want to make it be 1024. Otherwise as low as possible. So when you are recording audio to a MIDI drum track, you'd want it to be very low so you can play along accurately. When you have all that done, and are editing MIDI only, then put the buffer higher. When mixing, put it higher.
Let me know how this works, good luck, L
dual 2.8GHz Mac Pro, Macbook Pro 2.16 GHz Mac OS X (10.5.6) 2 GB RAM
4feet4
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Registered: Mar 12, 2009
Re: System Overload ...i know ..I'm not the 1st ...
Posted: Aug 10, 2009 9:10 AM in response to: Larry Mal
Ok Great - Thanks - makes sense - I was using a Lacie with Protools an my PC ( it recently crashed) - I was under the impression I would have enough processing power with out it on the MAC.
Looks like I can pick one up for just a little over $100 ( I'm rolling in that kind of cash) ... please clarify though - you stated: "Firewire is much superior to USB, which is why I'm glad to hear you are using USB as your audio in. By using Firewire in and Firewire out, on an iMac, you would be halving the bandwidth. In your case you are not" ....are you GLAD to hear I am using USB as in - We may have found the problem .... go external to free up processing ? Please confirm.
Thanks again
Imac Mac OS X (10.5.5) 2.4 Processor, 4 GB RAM, M-Audio Fast Track Pro Interface, No External HD
CCTM
Posts: 249
Registered: Mar 11, 2007
Re: System Overload ...i know ..I'm not the 1st ...
Posted: Aug 10, 2009 9:28 AM in response to: 4feet4
4feet4 wrote:
Ok Great - Thanks - makes sense - I was using a Lacie with Protools an my PC ( it recently crashed) - I was under the impression I would have enough processing power with out it on the MAC.
As stated in an earlier reply, if you only have 2 or 3 gigs of free space on your Mac hard drive, processing power is NOT the problem. Your boot disc is way too full. You should have at least 20-30GB free.
Running a second drive for the audio side will, of course, help, but you MUST clear out the main hard drive (or fit a larger one) before you run into even more serious problems.
HTH
CCT
Larry Mal
Posts: 654
From: Saint Louis, Missouri
Registered: Sep 27, 2007
Re: System Overload ...i know ..I'm not the 1st ...
Posted: Aug 10, 2009 9:37 AM in response to: 4feet4
Well, you have enough processing power, that isn't the issue. All the processing power in the world won't matter if you have 64 megabytes of RAM, there will be a bottleneck. Another bottleneck is with data transference. Like I said, when using a single drive to transfer date from as well as to- which is what you are doing when you are using Logic, running within the scope of the operating system, and hosting virtual instruments, all of which is writing the resulting audio information to the same drive, at the same time, then you are creating another problem. But you don't have to do that, by sending the audio written to another drive other than the one the audio is being generated from.
In other words, your processing power is both faster than and irrelevant to the physical limitations of the hard drive itself.
Another bottleneck would be if you were recording tracks on a Firewire in, and sending that to and external Firewire drive out. This is one of the limitations of the iMac, there is no way to add what is called another bus, which is simply another pipeline for data transference. You can get around that with a Mac Pro, in which you add another internal hard drive, which connects directly to the motherboard, and has its own bus. Or by adding another Firewire PCIe card, which will add another Firewire bus, again, with its own data transference. On an iMac, you have one Firewire bus, and one USB bus.
Clear? You can imagine these as pipes of water. The more pipes you have leading to and from a location the faster it will go.
USB, in your case, is a dedicated pipeline in. Nothing (well, your mouse, maybe a flash drive) is using that pipeline. Your Firewire is a pipeline out, in this case- you could reverse this, it doesn't matter*. If you use Firewire in and out, then you are sending water flowing in both directions in the same pipe. It will work, but not as well. By adding a dedicated bus, you would be adding another pipe to flow in one way, while the original flowed the other way. No impedances.
I don't see why you can't use the Lacie drive you already have, though. It's quite likely your crash wasn't due to it. No need to buy another drive, if it's Firewire, anyway. Just give it a shot- this isn't a cure all, but just good audio practice. Let me know how it pans out. Good luck, L
*Firewire is better than USB in all situations. But you seem to be going a track or two of USB audio in, so I'd use USB for that. For light use it's fine. Then you can use your superior Firewire bus to write the audio to the external Firewire drive.
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4feet4
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Re: System Overload ...i know ..I'm not the 1st ...
Posted: Aug 10, 2009 11:12 AM in response to: Larry Mal
L - Thanks for laying that out in simple terms - learning a ton and loving it ( when things work) - I will pick up another Lacie - my old Lacie for my PC crashed - I'm better off starting from scratch ( I'm still trying to retrive some data of the old one) ... I'll let you know how it works. I would have got an external drive outright but the Logic Certified guys at Apple told me I would not need one - sounds like this is the big problem. I'll use the freeze method when needed also....... maybe I'll have better luck with Groove Agent 3 with the external drive.
Much appreciated-
(TBD)
Imac Mac OS X (10.5.5) 2.4 Processor, 4 GB RAM, M-Audio Fast Track Pro Interface, No External HD
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Re: System Overload ...i know ..I'm not the 1st ...
Posted: Aug 10, 2009 11:39 AM in response to: 4feet4
And free up some room on that system drive.
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Re: System Overload ...i know ..I'm not the 1st ...
Posted: Aug 10, 2009 12:04 PM in response to: 4feet4
4feet4 wrote:
L - Thanks for laying that out in simple terms - learning a ton and loving it ( when things work) - I will pick up another Lacie - my old Lacie for my PC crashed - I'm better off starting from scratch ( I'm still trying to retrive some data of the old one) ... I'll let you know how it works. I would have got an external drive outright but the Logic Certified guys at Apple told me I would not need one - sounds like this is the big problem. I'll use the freeze method when needed also....... maybe I'll have better luck with Groove Agent 3 with the external drive.
Groove Agent 3 loads samples into memory so I doubt if your luck will change.
The -first- thing I would do is clear some space on your hard drive, my feeling is that OSX is writing swap files and the drive head is working overtime to try and find free space to write. That in itself could cause an overload.
Free drive space now or expect more problems than you're currently experiencing.
pancenter-
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Solution for "Error while trying to synchronize Audio and MIDI" and "System Overload" messages

Article for those who hate Logic error windows
Seen in Logic Pro 9.1.7 on Mac OS X Lion 10.7.4
and Logic Pro 9.0.0 on Mac OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.5
Logic Pro:
System Overload.
The audio engine was not able to process all required data in time.
(-10011)
Error while trying to synchronize Audio and MIDI.
Sample Rate xxxxx recognized.
Check conflict between Logic Pro and external device.
The search in the help given as follows: overload occurs when you use a lot of tracks and a lot of effects on them, and the synchronization is lost when the selected MIDI track for recording or playback. Yes, this is all that is written in the resources. And here are useful tips that have been found:
The Bounce function allows the entire instrument track to be recorded as an audio file. This bounced audio file can then be used (as an audio region) on a standard audio track, allowing you to reassign the available processing power for further software instrument tracks. For more details, see "Bouncing Your Project."
You can also make use of the Freeze function to capture the output of a software instrument track, again saving processing power. For details, see "Freezing Tracks in the Arrange Area."
These tips - about the timing. About overload - there are no tips, except as "reducing the number of plug-ins" and "increasing latency". Zero useful tips - I got two errors in the test project with a blank audio track with no effects, MIDI drums and standard synthesizer, it was no aux buses, and the entire project was only a single plugin in the master track.
Here is the configuration of my computer:
iMac12, 2
CPU: Intel Core i5 3,1 GHz
Memory: 4 GB
And here's a project that almost immediately stops Logic, all instruments and plug-ins with the init-patch, ie not the most demanding settings:
It's sad.
When this happened the first time, I could start the project only if the empty audio track has been selected, a track specially designed so that you can at least start the project. Then, this problem has evaporated along with the changing conditions of work and I forgot about it until the last case.
I was looking for the cause of the problem in the console and the system monitor for two days, and finally I found that Logic ping to the network frequently. I remembered the exact time of occurrence of the problem, and system logs revealed that the problems began immediately, as soon as I deactivate the service of the Internet.
Solution: enable the Internet, or add a new network service on a computer with no Internet. I just created the Ethernet connection to the ip address 1.0.0.0
Logic immediately began to sing.

Hi gabaghoul
Yes, it worked for me on four different OS and Logic versions (10.6 - 10.8 and 9.0 - 9.1.6)
It does not work in some cases, hard enough to tell in which one, but you can try, it very easy: go to the net settings and create new Ethernet connection to the ip address 1.0.0.0 and connect LAN cable to the port.
Also you can try to figure out what happens in your system while Logic error occured - fot that you just start Console and search "logicpro"
Pay attention to repetitive events in a console and events with suitable timing, not so far from error
The problem may be related to the GUI or system memory, sometimes turning off Safari (or Chrome, others browsers) might help.
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CPU Overload (-10010) with Logic 9.0.2 and SL 10.6.2 after clean install

Whether using the demo song (Numbers Game), or a new song even with just a couple of instruments (EXS) and a single audio track I get a CPU overload -10010 or -1009 message sometimes every few seconds, sometimes every 30 minutes.
I thought perhaps a conflict with drivers or other software, so I have tried a clean install of SL10.6, updated to 10.6.2, loaded Logic Pro, updated to 9.0.2, and added NO OTHER SOFTWARE AT ALL, and used internal audio, still same problem.
This seems to be a bug in Logic or SL. What can I do?
Message was edited by: ebjornard

This is no bug, your system is telling you that it cannot handle the full load of this song. Try Freezing tracks with heavy CPU-using plugins on them.
Also, check (and bookmark!) these docs:
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA24535?viewlocale=en_US
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3161
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2375
and especially:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2175192&tstart=0

Logic error-hard drive too slow or system overload (new macbook!)

have made a few short tracks with logic with no probs. when i have tried to play the demo songs which have many tracks, i get an error msg saying hd too slow or system overload. i have a new macbook, 2.4, 2mb ram, 250 gb hd (with loads space left). airport turned off when using logic. what gives???

Samples that I am using are located on a 7200 external HD.
Is your external formatted for Mac? If you didn't buy it from a store that sells mac drives specifically, it's probably formatted for windows. You must reformat for Mac or you'll have a lot of performance issues.
I've a Macbook 2,2 Ghz Core 2 DUO with 2Go of RAM.
You should get more Ram, it's really cheap these days.
Airport is disconnected. My AUdio Buffer is 1024 in the Logic preferences.
Make sure the I/O Safety Buffer is OFF, and then set the buffer size at 256 or 512.

"system overload" in logic pro 8 on my Mac Pro with only three tracks

I am running Logic Pro 8, on a 2.66 Quad Core Mac Pro w/ only 1GB of RAM. I have not had the money for the much needed ram upgrade, yet.
The day before yesterday I opened a project I had opened many times, with only three tracks - two audio and a midi synth with only a few notes. These tracks are fairly well plugin-ed up, but this Mac Pro has always eaten them up, no problems. When I tried to play the project, I got system overloads every 2 seconds, rather precisely actually. My CPU usage reads low in logic and with iStat, but suddenly it peaks to 100% on my third core and I get the system overload.
I had my buffer size at 128, so I switched it to 1024, it worked, and then I switched it back again and everything worked like it used to!
But now I have to go through this slightly illogical little procedure everytime I open a project. I have read threads here about this subject before, back I cant seem to apply them / understand them in relation to my particular situation.
any ideas?

Join the club...wait for them to patch/update it.
I've tried the various work arounds, sometimes they work temporarily, sometimes not at all.
For the overloads the most reliable "work around" is to select each track, open the VI/FX modules associated with that track, then close them, go to the next track and repeat the process. OR, if you know all the modules (VI/FX) you're using, just open each one. This will "initialize" their existance BEFORE the audio engine hits them in playback.
My guess is LP8 tries to reduce it's memory foot print and does NOT initialize all the VI/FX in a saved project that is just opened until it actually needs to use them -- a good idea one would think. However, when you do your playback and it hits the VI/FX for the first time (after you just opened your saved project) it appears the audio engine stalls waiting for the VI/FX to initialize the 1st time around and hence the overloads error. Obviously I can't prove this since I don't have access to the code, but I'm a developer and this would be my logical guess based on the evidence at hand.
I can reproduce the problem consistently:
1. Start LP8
2. Open existing project with 3 tracks (staggered to start a different times) with different VI on each track
3. Have 3 buses with a different FX on each bus
4. Do nothing other than hit Play
Overload when it hits start of 1st track VI, stop, restart, overloads when it hits start point of 2nd track VI, stop restart, overloads when it hits start point of 3rd track.
Why wasn't something this obvious caught in testing? Good question.
Rob.
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Is my CPU really overloaded....why all the crashes?

I'm on a quad core G5 with oodles of RAM running 10 or so tracks of pretty big multilayered Audio Instruments. My monitors say I've plenty of RAM left and plenty of CPU power to spare. In fact only 3 of the 4 processors seem to be being used. But I keep crashing and getting Core Audio overload error messages. This happens upon loading the song too as the samples load. Whatever song I create runs into the same problem at about the same stage of it's development. Any ideas?
G5 Quad Core Mac OS X (10.4.6) 16GB RAM
G5 Quad Core Mac OS X (10.4.6) 16GB RAM
G5 Quad Core Mac OS X (10.4.6) 16GB RAM
G5 Quad Core Mac OS X (10.4.6) 16GB RAM

Thanks both!
My songs are on my primary hard drive with Logic application and with the external sample players I'm using (Kompakt with East/West Symphonic Orchestra).
The samples libraries are on the second hard drive. Should the songs be there too?
Justin, what do you mean by search benchmark song 2. Sorry for being dense here! Many thanks. I'd heard of Logic only assigning itself a fixed amount of RAM...one of those small but crucial bits of infor that apple and Logic don't like to announce I imagine...
Thanks.

TS2529 I understand that iTunes 10.7 is available, but when I try to download, I still show 10.6. etc. Is this just a matter of the servers being overloaded with requests right now ? TIA

I understand that iTunes 10.7 is available, but when I try to download, I still show 10.6. etc. Is this just a matter of the servers being overloaded with requests right now ? TIA

There are intermittent issues reported with iTunes reporting that the update is available, but ASU not showing it as an option to install. (Got that a bit with the last 10.6.x version, too.)
If that's what is going on, I'd try updating your iTunes using an iTunesSetup.exe (or iTunes64Setup.exe) installer file downloaded from the Apple website:
http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/

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