SOA suit 11g uses both ESB and OSB(ALSB)

Hi, I am newbie to SOA suit 11g. Can somebody please explain the use of ESB and OSB(ALSB) both in SOA 11g.In SOA 11g ESB is being used only for mediation.Even OSB(ALSB) has same capability.Then why both needs to be used?Can't we use one of these?
~Pradeep

hello Pradeep,
there is quite some literature on this hot topic - actually it's one of the most frequently asked question from people who are using OSB and Soa Suite.
if you google "OSB vs Mediator" you will find some useful links:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/23622536/Oracle-SOA-Suite-11g-Mediator-vs-Oracle-Service-Bus-OSB
SOA SUITE 11g - Mediator & OSB
http://oracle-fusion-blogs.com/oracle-fusion-osb-mediator/
and so on....

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typo error

Hi,
I found this document from the Oracle Open World 2009 (maybe you have found it too) :
"Integration with PeopleSoft applications using oracle soa suite 11g BPEL" --> [http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/fmw4apps/peoplesoft/pdf/oow2009-bpel-psft.pdf]
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[http://www.oracle.com/technology/obe/fusion_middleware/fusion/soa/BPEL_PS848/OBE_PSFT_BPEL_848.htm]
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