Software Monitoring HELP

I use a 1.83 GHz G5 iMac to run Logic Express. My mixing board is firewire and supports software monitoring, it's a MultiMix16 Firewire. My problem is with software monitoring.
Randomly, a few days ago, I began working on something and realized I wasn't hearing any audio from the program. Most normally, I'd be plugged into my headphone out or even main mix out, and I'd hear what I've recorded via the program. (All the tracks, etc.) Now, for whatever reason, I can still record with the board but don't hear any audio out except the live noise. Confusing, but I need help. I know I've got software monitoring enabled.
Is my mixer broken? Is it simply a setting issue in Logic express? HELP!
1.83 GHz G5 iMac, 1 GHz G4 Powerbook Mac OS X (10.4.10)

Hello Bahamaboy,
Your problem is exactly my problem. I tried both Windows Xp and 7. I can see live video, but the utility only record for a few second and freeze. There is no tech support in my country - cambodia, so I'm in a more serious situation. I also need help. May be I should tried from a fresh windows installation, but what is it good for. It takes lot of time to reinstall everything. Your comments do suggest some software conflict. I think I will try it on my laptop rather than my desktop, which I do not have lot of software installed on my laptop.
(Mod note: Edited post for guideline compliance. Thanks!)
Message Edited by JOHNDOE_06 on 01-20-2010 08:35 AM

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